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Posted: November 13, 2008, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

What would your reaction be if a lottery software developer offered you the following proposition: He/she will let you use the software for an unlimited period of time, but if the software provided true value to you, then you would send the developer whatever you thought the software was worth.. That is, rather than software being offered at a fixed priced, the customer would determine the value, and thus be obligated to pay whatever that value was, as a matter of conscience.

There is a lot of lottery software out there, some good, some bad, some not worth the effort of even trying. If you had an offer like the one I described, what would you do?

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    If someone is writing lottery software as a business, then that's a business plan that will not work.  I doubt if players who write lottery software as a hobby for their own benefits would ever consider sharing their software in that manner.   Programmers with software that doesn't work wouldn't do it either.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      If someone is writing lottery software as a business, then that's a business plan that will not work.  I doubt if players who write lottery software as a hobby for their own benefits would ever consider sharing their software in that manner.   Programmers with software that doesn't work wouldn't do it either.

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        Priceline started offering this strategy for hotels and airfares and they seem to be doing okay, at least until recently.

        When you make a bid on ebay for an item, you only offer what you think it is worth to you.

        When someones barters with someone else, both parties have to determine what the service is worth.

        When a person buys a stock in the stock market, that person will only pay what they think the stock will be worth in the future.

        Why is lottery software different, given the skepticism about lottery software in general and current economic condtions?

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          Why is lottery software different, given the skepticism about lottery software in general and current economic condtions?

          Lottery software is just like lottery tickets, their values are determined before you buy them and if you are skeptical about the game or you can't afford the price of the tickets then you don't buy them.  You don't barter with retailer for what you think the tickets will be worth after the drawing.   You and the retailer know that there is a 95% chance they will be worthless, but that's the reason playing lotteries is gambling. 

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Priceline started offering this strategy for hotels and airfares and they seem to be doing okay, at least until recently.

            When you make a bid on ebay for an item, you only offer what you think it is worth to you.

            When someones barters with someone else, both parties have to determine what the service is worth.

            When a person buys a stock in the stock market, that person will only pay what they think the stock will be worth in the future.

            Why is lottery software different, given the skepticism about lottery software in general and current economic condtions?

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              Posted: November 13, 2008, 3:50 pm - IP Logged

              What would your reaction be if a lottery software developer offered you the following proposition: He/she will let you use the software for an unlimited period of time, but if the software provided true value to you, then you would send the developer whatever you thought the software was worth.. That is, rather than software being offered at a fixed priced, the customer would determine the value, and thus be obligated to pay whatever that value was, as a matter of conscience.

              There is a lot of lottery software out there, some good, some bad, some not worth the effort of even trying. If you had an offer like the one I described, what would you do?

              Let the customer determine the value? No way. I know what that value would be: FREE.Roll Eyes

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                What would your reaction be if a lottery software developer offered you the following proposition: He/she will let you use the software for an unlimited period of time, but if the software provided true value to you, then you would send the developer whatever you thought the software was worth.. That is, rather than software being offered at a fixed priced, the customer would determine the value, and thus be obligated to pay whatever that value was, as a matter of conscience.

                There is a lot of lottery software out there, some good, some bad, some not worth the effort of even trying. If you had an offer like the one I described, what would you do?

                I read somewhere that gamblers are one of the most likely groups to send you a bad check.

                If I were selling software, I'd do the same as if I won a jackpot - cash value, up front.Skeptical

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                  Posted: November 13, 2008, 7:35 pm - IP Logged

                  It seems to me that these people are right, software most have a set price or be freeware, those asking for donations or giving their software as donat-ware, probably don't get much money.

                  Let those few who pay for it, get it and the rest don't, other wise, everybody gets it and very few pay any money for it and probably not enough money.

                  If you can't afford the software then you should not be playing the lottery, you can't afford to gamble your money away.

                  Either give the software away as freeware or sell it, if you give it as donat-ware, don't expect to get much money on donations.

                  It is perfectly fine to give software as donat-ware, there is nothing wrong with that, just don't expect to make much mooney in this way.

                  Good luck!

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                    Posted: November 13, 2008, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

                    I suggest that before you put a price on it, make predictions with the use of your software, if you win enough and or often enough, then you can set a higher price for the software, otherwise, either don't sell it, or sell it for anything between $19 up to $29, or give it away as either freeware or as donat-ware.

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                    By the way, What game(s) is the software for and Does it make automatic predictions or not?

                    How good Do you think that it is?

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                      I suggest that before you put a price on it, make predictions with the use of your software, if you win enough and or often enough, then you can set a higher price for the software, otherwise, either don't sell it, or sell it for anything between $19 up to $29, or give it away as either freeware or as donat-ware.

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                      By the way, What game(s) is the software for and Does it make automatic predictions or not?

                      How good Do you think that it is?

                      One problem with that idea, programmers sell software to make money.  If a programmer could make money using his software why would he sell it to anyone else for any price?   

                      I don't believe there are people out there writing lottery programs because they want to see other people make money playing the lotteries but I do believe there are plenty of of lottery programs out there that will store drawings results and allow you to analyze them in different ways.  When it comes to making winning predictions, you're going to have to come up with some ideas of your own.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: November 13, 2008, 10:00 pm - IP Logged

                        If a software gives automatic predictions:

                        For the pick 3 game:

                        Boxed wins, it must give them often enough and with as few numbers as possible or there will be no profit.

                        Straight wins they don't have to be won as often if they are won with few numbers.

                        Straight wins have to be won often enough if they are won with very many numbers or there will not be a profit.

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                        Jackpot games:

                        Small wins won't give any profit if there are too many lines predicted.

                        Big wins, might give a profit if there are not too many lines predicted and if such wins come out often enough.

                        JackPot wins, they have to come out just once.

                        You should not buy jackpot software, because it gives or might give small wins, but because of the potential that it might have for maybe one day giving a Jackpot prediction.

                        If a software does not give small and or big wins often enough and with as few lines as possible, then it might have no or very little potential for giving big and or jackpot wins.

                        But you never know for sure, for example: LottoSync hardly ever gave any wins, but a few people a few times got more or less big wins with it, so maybe most people didn't make any money with it, but a few of them did, the chances of somebody sometime winning big prices and or a jackpot might (maybe, but not for sure) be increased a few times over regular random chance, I am talking about the 1.5 to 1.7 versions, the chances of Marco ever releasing the 1.8 or other newer version(s), even now, seem small.

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                          Posted: November 14, 2008, 5:57 pm - IP Logged

                          One of the marketing scams from the old days went something like this.

                          The actual value of my software is $129.98 however if you act today you can buy my software for $29.99 and use it as long as you want.  When you have a good win,  you pay the remaining $99.99

                          Of course the intent is to sell software for $29.99 while inflating the perceived value to $129.98 if anyone is stupid enough to send in the $99.99 that's gravy.

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                            What would your reaction be if a lottery software developer offered you the following proposition: He/she will let you use the software for an unlimited period of time, but if the software provided true value to you, then you would send the developer whatever you thought the software was worth.. That is, rather than software being offered at a fixed priced, the customer would determine the value, and thus be obligated to pay whatever that value was, as a matter of conscience.

                            There is a lot of lottery software out there, some good, some bad, some not worth the effort of even trying. If you had an offer like the one I described, what would you do?

                            I use that model for my Lottery Results Gadget for Windows Vista.  It is DonationWare, meaning that people can have it for free and they can donate any amount they like if they want to.

                            Based on how few people actually donate money for it, it would be impossible to survive if I relied uon donations.  That's why you don't see more software authors do it.

                            There are probably 100,000 or more people using the gadget, and a small handful of donations has come from it.

                             

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                              i guess these are the rule of donationware

                              There are probably 100,000 or more Eek Crazy Eek Crazy Eek Crazy people using the gadget, and a small handful of donations has come from it.

                              like in the old book ten to one, from ten people who cured only only who return but this is a good thing ten percent, while for donationware it might be only one percent. i guess people who donate really knew how hard to make such program. i guess you're collecting a good luck energy chief Thumbs Up

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