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Repeated winning numbers in jackpot, rare?

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Posted: January 23, 2009, 11:01 pm - IP Logged

For your state pick 5 games, or even Mega Million, do you think the winning number will repeat itself in your lifetime? If so, how long do you think it will take before seeing the same winning number again? Any winning numbers previously drawn. As the game ages, higher percentage of previous winning combos might show up for next draw. For younger games, with higher odds like Mega Million it will take over 50 years to see any repeats.

What do you think?

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    Posted: January 23, 2009, 11:43 pm - IP Logged

    It's happened in my state's p5 game at least once.

    It happens rarely enough (a year or more apart, usually), that I feel safe not playing combos that have previously fallen.

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      Posted: January 23, 2009, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

      For GA Fantasy 5, there are over 3,000+ results. I am thinking of running my picks with it so I don't reselect the winning combo.

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        The Florida 5/26 game had so many repeat combinations good money could be made simply playing all the previous drawn combinations for each draw.

        If you have the GH software and the full FL 5/26 data base, try running the 9. chart.  I think you will be surprised how many times this game repeated winning 5 number combinations.

        BobP

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          I wonder if there is a way to check all the winning combinations for repeats. Doing it manually is going to take lots of time...

          BobP, what is the 9 chart?

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            I wonder if there is a way to check all the winning combinations for repeats. Doing it manually is going to take lots of time...

            BobP, what is the 9 chart?

            If you have excel or Microsoft works or any business software drop or input all the numbers into it and hit ascending order you can then go through the list and see what lines came out more than once.

            In Maryland it has happened lick 4 or 5 times. bonus match 5

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              Thanks four4me. I do have excel. :)

              Will try this out today.

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                As of 01/23/09 Ohio's Rolling Cash5 (5/39) with 1433 drawings since it started on 10/04/04 had two winning combinations repeat.

                 01/04/09 - 14 17 20 22 30
                 06/21/07 - 14 17 20 22 30

                 12/20/08 - 07 08 16 34 36
                 10/12/04 - 07 08 16 34 36

                When I compare all drawings with previous drawings the matches are:

                  TOTAL MATCHES            PAYOUTS

                 MATCH  0 = 495418   0
                 MATCH  1 = 413321   0
                 MATCH  2 = 106852   0     $ 106852
                 MATCH  3 = 10078    0     $ 100780
                 MATCH  4 = 357      0     $ 107100
                 MATCH  5 = 2        0       2 JP

                 TOTAL PRIZES = $ 314732 + 2 JACKPOTS

                It would have cost $1,026,028 to have played all the previous winning combinations during those 1433 drawings.

                The old Buckeye5 (5/37) game which had 2723 drawings during its run had 5 combinations repeat.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: January 24, 2009, 11:32 am - IP Logged

                  Ah, cost too much to win so little. I think with the repeated winning combo in effect for some states, it's best use would be to not include them. So instead of taking 1,433 previous drawings into consideration (knowing one of which might repeat), we can already eliminate 1,433 drawings from 575,757 combos. Not much, but does help not to spend those dollars on combos already "made it".

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                    Ah, cost too much to win so little. I think with the repeated winning combo in effect for some states, it's best use would be to not include them. So instead of taking 1,433 previous drawings into consideration (knowing one of which might repeat), we can already eliminate 1,433 drawings from 575,757 combos. Not much, but does help not to spend those dollars on combos already "made it".

                    I shall have to look into the way I calculated cost, that may be double the actual cost.  By the way since 2 of the combinations repeated there has only been 1431 different combinations.

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                      Posted: January 24, 2009, 1:48 pm - IP Logged

                      RJOh i  don't know i come up with $3,092

                       
                      from 10/12/2004 to 1/4/2009 = 1546 days times 2 bucks a day = $3,092

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                        I shall have to look into the way I calculated cost, that may be double the actual cost.  By the way since 2 of the combinations repeated there has only been 1431 different combinations.

                        I calculated the same cost of play: $1,026,028

                        $1 for drawing #2

                        $2 for drawing #3

                        $3 for drawing #4

                        ...

                        $1,432 for drawing #1433

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                          RJOh i  don't know i come up with $3,092

                           
                          from 10/12/2004 to 1/4/2009 = 1546 days times 2 bucks a day = $3,092

                          1. When RC5 first started, there weren't any Sunday drawings so that is the reason there has only been 1433 drawings between 10/04/04 to 01/23/09.

                          2. You can't play all the previous drawings for $2 after the third drawing.

                          3. I rechecked my calculations and I was right.  For every combinations played there is a 0-5 match and when all those matches are added up at $1 each they equal $1,026,028 for 1433 drawings.

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                            Posted: January 25, 2009, 12:22 am - IP Logged

                            I wonder if there is a way to check all the winning combinations for repeats. Doing it manually is going to take lots of time...

                            BobP, what is the 9 chart?


                            9 is the Compainion Pairs chart in the Gail Howard software.  It gives you the pairs, triads, quads, quints, that have repeated over the range of history one selects or all of it.  So many people here have the software, saying GH is generally understood.

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                              Posted: January 25, 2009, 12:42 am - IP Logged

                              I made a program once that got all drawn numbers over the games lifetime and deleted them from the picks you had to choose from.  I never really finished it because powerball and cash 5 gave me a headache!