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Win $1800.00 Daily Will This System Work?

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Inspect the larger group above

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High/Low:
HHH00%
HHL215.4%456 457
HLL1184.6%147 354 049 148 247 364 149 374 249 348 394
LLL00%
Even/Odd:
EEE00%
EEO753.8%049 148 247 364 249 348 456
EOO646.2%147 354 149 374 394 457

 

 

from Mar 1 to Mar 12
 
Thu, Mar 5, 20094-8-1

 

 

 

Sat, Mar 7, 20090-9-4 BOX Play 

 

The 800 list follows

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    147 354 049 148 247 364 149 374 249 348 456 394 457
    Brought you this far with a good key
    digit 4... If you had to reduce farther
    Stick with the troughs
    147  049 148  149  249 348  394 
    There is a 51.2% probability that the next winning number will not contain a 0 or a 1. Which means that there is a 48.8% probability that the next winning number will contain either 0 or 1 or the 01 pair. Pretty close to a 50/50 shot. BTW there are 384 straight numbers that contain a 0 or a 1. That means a $116 profit about half of the time.

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      or tryFibonacci
       
      Hey Fibonacci that was arduous job
      taking the last 200 straights in GA (without repeaters) from Feb 28 backwards.If you try again I will input to test again...or try myself .
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        GA (E). Ten (10) of last 12 draws came from the 800 list (slightly higher than the 4:1 expected).

        Cost at 25 cents  $2400   Revenue  $2225 loss $125 even when the returns were above the mathematical average.   LOL.

        Now notice that no hits have come from numbers with digits beginning with 0,1, 3, 8. Now you can narrow down an filter. With some additional filtering work the scheme can transmogrify into a system.

        Another strategy: Notice where ealry signs of possible clusters are showing.

        Numbers between 481 and 496. I would look for another hit in that window.

        Numbers between 552 and 570

        Between 570 and 608

        Between 608 and 632

        DATEN1N2N3
        3/12/2009703
        3/11/2009796
        3/10/2009632
        3/9/2009212
        3/8/2009938
        3/7/2009094
        3/6/2009496
        3/5/2009481
        3/4/2009362
        3/3/2009552
        3/2/2009570
        3/1/2009608

        Update ..since posting above..

        3/15/2009      565    note this number falls between the emerging cluster 552....570...more hits there, from the 200...expect a close number from the 800 list  566---564 etc

        3/14/2009      073   begins with a missing digit 0,1,3,8

        3/13/2009      507

         

        The narrowest cluster is between 481 and 496. I would play the numbers there until they come, especially the doubles

         

        484--488--494

        $$$

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          Update ..since posting above..

          3/15/2009      565    note this number falls between the emerging cluster 552....570...more hits there, from the 200...expect a close number from the 800 list  566---564 etc

          3/14/2009      073   begins with a missing digit 0,1,3,8

          3/13/2009      507

           

          The narrowest cluster is between 481 and 496. I would play the numbers there until they come, especially the doubles

           

          484--488--494

          CONGRATS Fibonacci,

          Mon-March 16, 2009$ OHIO-MID-484 $STR... Hope that someone caught it...I missed it as I just seen your post. 

          Do you still like all 3 numbers as STR in ALL States???

          Keep the winners coming...JS....

          "May The Numbers Be With Us All $$$$"....js1237....Sun Smiley

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            I worked on a progressive pick 3 system that I back tested for 5 months and was showing a paper profit of $45,000. I was excited that I had discovered this until I found out that the online lotto that claims to pay $900 per $1 bet limited the amount you can bet each day or draw.

            The system was basically this...

            day 1 bet $1 on all 000's

            if no win bet

            bet $2 on all 500's

            bet $3 on all 600's

            then alternate between low and high numbers until you hit...

            So by day it would look like this...

            $100

            $200 $300

            $400 $500 $600

            $700 $800 $900 $1000

            Of course you need a big bank roll to do this and you will go up and down... but after 5 months of testing every month showed a profit doing it this way.

            I can send the excel speadsheet to anyone who wants a copy?

            TedK

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              I worked on a progressive pick 3 system that I back tested for 5 months and was showing a paper profit of $45,000. I was excited that I had discovered this until I found out that the online lotto that claims to pay $900 per $1 bet limited the amount you can bet each day or draw.

              The system was basically this...

              day 1 bet $1 on all 000's

              if no win bet

              bet $2 on all 500's

              bet $3 on all 600's

              then alternate between low and high numbers until you hit...

              So by day it would look like this...

              $100

              $200 $300

              $400 $500 $600

              $700 $800 $900 $1000

              Of course you need a big bank roll to do this and you will go up and down... but after 5 months of testing every month showed a profit doing it this way.

              I can send the excel speadsheet to anyone who wants a copy?

              TedK

              This is called hijacking a thread by turning it to a different topic.  Happens all too often around here, but what can you do?

              The 200/800 gives you an 80/20 shot at winning and maybe better.

              Your system starts at 900/100 or a 90/10 shot at losing your first wager.

              The 800/200 or 80/20 shot, how often did that work?

              Once you start getting into the 1 in 3 area things start to look up win wise.

              The question with the 200/800 system was whether more recently drawn (last 200) numbers would be less likely to be drawn again in compairson to the 800 numbers longer out or more due to be drawn. 

              The online places have to limit their risk, even the states put a  limit on play.

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                This is called hijacking a thread by turning it to a different topic.  Happens all too often around here, but what can you do?

                The 200/800 gives you an 80/20 shot at winning and maybe better.

                Your system starts at 900/100 or a 90/10 shot at losing your first wager.

                The 800/200 or 80/20 shot, how often did that work?

                Once you start getting into the 1 in 3 area things start to look up win wise.

                The question with the 200/800 system was whether more recently drawn (last 200) numbers would be less likely to be drawn again in compairson to the 800 numbers longer out or more due to be drawn. 

                The online places have to limit their risk, even the states put a  limit on play.

                BobP

                Sorry BobP-

                I wasn't intentionally highjacking this thread... just rambling off my results of a paper system I had tested and it worked until I found out the limits of the one online betting place I was going to use said they limited the amount of bets per day to a real low amount.

                My system actually doesn't start at a 900/100 or 90/10 loss as it starts with betting the lowest amount from day 1 and then working your way up progressively each day to cover all your bets from previous days.

                I tried doing it quite a few different ways and they all started good but seemed to peter out if I ran through a long dry spell. This system does need a large bank roll but if you put it to paper it does work (at least in the Maryland lottery pick 3 for at least 5 months of back testing).

                I just like the progressive type of betting as you can cover your losses over a period of time. I just need to find a good basis to betting a system that shows hits consistently on a budget that you can use the "progressive system" on.

                TedK

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                  Sorry BobP-

                  I wasn't intentionally highjacking this thread... just rambling off my results of a paper system I had tested and it worked until I found out the limits of the one online betting place I was going to use said they limited the amount of bets per day to a real low amount.

                  My system actually doesn't start at a 900/100 or 90/10 loss as it starts with betting the lowest amount from day 1 and then working your way up progressively each day to cover all your bets from previous days.

                  I tried doing it quite a few different ways and they all started good but seemed to peter out if I ran through a long dry spell. This system does need a large bank roll but if you put it to paper it does work (at least in the Maryland lottery pick 3 for at least 5 months of back testing).

                  I just like the progressive type of betting as you can cover your losses over a period of time. I just need to find a good basis to betting a system that shows hits consistently on a budget that you can use the "progressive system" on.

                  TedK

                  Long time back I was surprised to find some of the best sounding Pick-3 Steve Player systems were nothing more then progressive wagering. 

                  You know, win $250,000 playing Pick-3, just keep doubling the bet, write yourself a weekly paycheck, just syphon off a little as it grows.

                  The math was sound, if you could pick the winning numbers and if you want to do that, you have  to buy one of the systems that picks winning numbers.

                  When I went to play at what we call "the other place" around here, I looked at how much you could put on a Pick-3 number straight and found it was $5.

                  I seem to recall it used to be $25.  I guess they had enough of people having $25 X's $900.  wins.  The risk likely isn't worth the $25 return just as people say the $800 risk isn't worth the $100 return of the $1800 a day system.

                  I almost feel sorry for them trying to grind out a thin profit because I suspect they attract a far higher ratio of winners to losers compared to the state games.  

                  As found with roulette, if the bet isn't capped and the budget is unlimited you virtually can't lose.  This is why some roulette progressions try to work in as many levels as possible to extend out the number of progressive plays within the house limit.

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                    Why would putting out $800 to win $100 be a bad investment?  I don't understand.

                    Assuming one can find a place to lay down 800 dollars for a 900 dollar win, the return on your "investment" is actually great.  That return translates into a 12.5% return on your investment.  At twice a day, that comes to 25% return....daily.  Find a bank, mutual fund, Bernie Madoff scheme, paying that much; just try.

                    Of course this is assuming you never lose.

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                      It's not a bad investment on the 1 of 5 days that you put in $800 and get out $900 on a win.

                      It's a bad investment on the 4 of 5 days that you put in $800 and get out $0 on a lose.

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                        It's not a bad investment on the 1 of 5 days that you put in $800 and get out $900 on a win.

                        It's a bad investment on the 4 of 5 days that you put in $800 and get out $0 on a lose.

                        You're betting 800 of the 1000 numbers so you should win 8 times out of 10 for a profit of 100 each draw for a total profit of 800 and lose two times out of 10 for a loss of 1600 unless you make a choice such as not playing those two days.   BobP

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                          You're betting 800 of the 1000 numbers so you should win 8 times out of 10 for a profit of 100 each draw for a total profit of 800 and lose two times out of 10 for a loss of 1600 unless you make a choice such as not playing those two days.   BobP

                          Yep. I stand corrected on the # of win days vs # of lose days.

                          4 days out of 5 (or 8 of 10) days, you will net $100 gain each day.

                          Now you just gotta figure of which 1 of 5 days not to play, else you'll lose all the profit back and then some. Wink

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                            You're betting 800 of the 1000 numbers so you should win 8 times out of 10 for a profit of 100 each draw for a total profit of 800 and lose two times out of 10 for a loss of 1600 unless you make a choice such as not playing those two days.   BobP

                            Have you ever run a simulation on paper for a couple of weeks to see if you really would have made a profit? 

                            Back testing usually always come out positive because when it doesn't changes can be made to make it come out positive.   Most players don't have the patients to test forward with a simulation because if they have a couple of hits after doing all the work, it hard to resist playing for real.

                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              What will save many people a lot of grief is that $800 hurdle to play this way.

                              More people would risk $20~$50 a pop without backtesting, but $800, you're gonna think about it for a minute.

                              Of course, the seller of the "system" doesn't care, they've already got your purchase money.

                              In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
                              Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.