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# Testing out a strategy

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I haven't completed it yet but I figured I would document my progress here...

Using North Carolina's Cash 5 Game:

I Split the numbers into 5 sections (A,B,C,D,E)

A = 1-9
B = 10-15
C = 16-23
D = 24-29
E = 30-39

A little over 70% of the time the drawing has two numbers from the same section.

About 24% of the time the drawing has 3 numbers from the same section.

Using this information I would go ahead and eliminate playing a set of numbers that has all 5 sections.

By doing this I think you would eliminate 25,920 numbers?  (I'm not good at figuring that type of stuff out)

I am working on using this type of information to help narrow down the plays.

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I tried that with Ohio Rolling Cash5 which has had 1490 drawings so far and I came up with 112 different patterns.  Here is a list of the top 21 which covered 50% of the drawings.

1. ABCDE = 61
2. ACDEE = 53
3. ABCCE = 52
4. AACEE = 44
5. ABCEE = 43
6. AABCE = 40
7. ABDEE = 40
8. ACCDE = 40
9. BCDEE = 40
10. ACCEE = 36
11. AACDE = 33
12. AACCE = 29
13. AABDE = 28
14. ABBCE = 28
15. AABEE = 27
16. ACEEE = 27
17. AABCD = 26
18. ABCCD = 26
19. AAACE = 25
20. BBCDE = 25
21. BCCDE = 23

It's one of the ideas I posted in the thread "Developomg a winning MegaMillions System".
Good to see someone else is also working with that idea.  Good luck to you.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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I haven't completed it yet but I figured I would document my progress here...

Using North Carolina's Cash 5 Game:

I Split the numbers into 5 sections (A,B,C,D,E)

A = 1-9
B = 10-15
C = 16-23
D = 24-29
E = 30-39

A little over 70% of the time the drawing has two numbers from the same section.

About 24% of the time the drawing has 3 numbers from the same section.

Using this information I would go ahead and eliminate playing a set of numbers that has all 5 sections.

By doing this I think you would eliminate 25,920 numbers?  (I'm not good at figuring that type of stuff out)

I am working on using this type of information to help narrow down the plays.

Double totals and percentages:

AA: 232
BB: 82
CC: 117
DD: 75
EE: 123

AA: 36%
BB: 14%
CC: 18%
DD: 12%
EE: 20%

Triple totals and percentages:

AAA: 68
BBB: 16
CCC: 43
DDD: 17
EEE: 71

AAA: 32%
BBB: 07%
CCC: 20%
DDD: 08%
EEE: 33%

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I tried that with Ohio Rolling Cash5 which has had 1490 drawings so far and I came up with 112 different patterns.  Here is a list of the top 21 which covered 50% of the drawings.

1. ABCDE = 61
2. ACDEE = 53
3. ABCCE = 52
4. AACEE = 44
5. ABCEE = 43
6. AABCE = 40
7. ABDEE = 40
8. ACCDE = 40
9. BCDEE = 40
10. ACCEE = 36
11. AACDE = 33
12. AACCE = 29
13. AABDE = 28
14. ABBCE = 28
15. AABEE = 27
16. ACEEE = 27
17. AABCD = 26
18. ABCCD = 26
19. AAACE = 25
20. BBCDE = 25
21. BCCDE = 23

It's one of the ideas I posted in the thread "Developomg a winning MegaMillions System".
Good to see someone else is also working with that idea.  Good luck to you.

Ok, I hadn't noticed that.  Funny we had the same idea though.  I'll take a look at yours and have you had any luck getting 4 out of 5 right ?

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No.  In the thread I worked only with the MegaMillions game using 20 lines.  I used the idea with Ohio Classic Lotto(6/49) and saw an improvement with matching 3 and 4 with 10 lines.  I used the whole definitions to pick combinations that had similar distributions of numbers.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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No.  In the thread I worked only with the MegaMillions game using 20 lines.  I used the idea with Ohio Classic Lotto(6/49) and saw an improvement with matching 3 and 4 with 10 lines.  I used the whole definitions to pick combinations that had similar distributions of numbers.

Do you think it would be fair to eliminate any combination of numbers that has been drawn before?

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Do you think it would be fair to eliminate any combination of numbers that has been drawn before?

In the program that I wrote to pick combinations, I not only used those definitions to come up with combinations but as I mentioned early in that post, I also used sums, ranges and gaps to eliminate combinations along with not accepting combinations that had already came up in earlier drawings.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Watching for these numbers 2, 3, 14, 21, 31 as the most due..

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In my excel sheets for the jackpot games, from 5 groups condensed to 4 groups making it; A,B,C,D. Taking the total number of balls and divided out evenly to 4, if there are some odds usually goes towards C and D group. Within it with the five groups that are equal to or greather than 3 number groups. ABC, ABD, BCD, ABCD, then track to see how often they come up. Take a look at one of the sheets, it is there. Perhaps it can help you.

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In my excel sheets for the jackpot games, from 5 groups condensed to 4 groups making it; A,B,C,D. Taking the total number of balls and divided out evenly to 4, if there are some odds usually goes towards C and D group. Within it with the five groups that are equal to or greather than 3 number groups. ABC, ABD, BCD, ABCD, then track to see how often they come up. Take a look at one of the sheets, it is there. Perhaps it can help you.

diamondpalace, I would like you to know that I have been using your concept with DNA 5, I already hit 3 times 4 numbers.  Every time I hit 4 numbers I hit them the most 5 tickets and the least was 3 tickets.  I do not use your excel program I do it by hand.  I converted the numbers to letters from the very first thread that you have posted.  The only problem I run into is that I use all 3 methods that you have posted and come up with about 20 numbers.  I am trying to tweak it on my own sometimes come up with good results.  I am still waiting for you to pick up on it, but I think you have been involved with other projects.  Just wants you to know that it is a great concept and it does work.  Please come on back to it.  Thank you for all your hard work and great ideas.

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diamondpalace, I would like you to know that I have been using your concept with DNA 5, I already hit 3 times 4 numbers.  Every time I hit 4 numbers I hit them the most 5 tickets and the least was 3 tickets.  I do not use your excel program I do it by hand.  I converted the numbers to letters from the very first thread that you have posted.  The only problem I run into is that I use all 3 methods that you have posted and come up with about 20 numbers.  I am trying to tweak it on my own sometimes come up with good results.  I am still waiting for you to pick up on it, but I think you have been involved with other projects.  Just wants you to know that it is a great concept and it does work.  Please come on back to it.  Thank you for all your hard work and great ideas.

Glad to hear you are hitting 4 of 5 using the DNA 5 system. You'll be hitting the jackpot soon! About the 20 numbers, they only exist in the excel automated sheet, but I have advised to only pick 12 numbers from it since most will have repeats or is a negative number, or over the maximum number of the game. Without getting too far off from this thread's topic, I'll release the version II this week or next week, been working on it piece by piece when I have the time even with lots of projects on the table.

About number groups; A,B,C,D they help to identify the game's number patterns, and allow us to select more or less from one of the group yet we must have all the group's in order to give ourself a chance at winning. The hot group have more numbers from it, while the cold have a few. Depending on some games ABCD comes out a lot (like W.Virginia Cash 25), while ABC (in mega millions) comes out the most.

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Updated info:

AA: 171
BB: 68
CC: 115
DD: 75
EE: 128
AAA: 69
BBB: 16
CCC: 43
DDD: 17
EEE: 72

Doubles: 557

Triples: 217

Double Double: 87

# Total and Skip

 # Total Cur. Skip 1 109 5 2 103 2 3 115 2 4 123 13 5 131 2 6 128 12 7 120 6 8 128 0 9 119 3 10 101 4 11 115 8 12 103 3 13 103 1 14 101 35 15 91 6 16 122 6 17 100 0 18 100 0 19 102 3 20 117 6 21 123 17 22 113 9 23 116 7 24 113 0 25 117 9 26 105 7 27 124 13 28 116 0 29 102 1 30 130 4 31 104 19 32 134 3 33 113 11 34 113 1 35 120 2 36 119 4 37 110 1 38 111 2 39 111 8

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Watching these:

1. 04-06-14-21-22
2. 04-06-14-21-25
3. 04-06-14-21-27
4. 04-06-14-21-31
5. 04-06-14-22-25
6. 04-06-14-22-27
7. 04-06-14-22-31
8. 04-06-14-25-27
9. 04-06-14-25-31
10. 04-06-14-27-31
11. 04-06-21-22-25
12. 04-06-21-22-27
13. 04-06-21-22-31
14. 04-06-21-25-27
15. 04-06-21-25-31
16. 04-06-21-27-31
17. 04-06-22-25-27
18. 04-06-22-25-31
19. 04-06-22-27-31
20. 04-06-25-27-31
21. 04-14-21-22-25
22. 04-14-21-22-27
23. 04-14-21-22-31
24. 04-14-21-25-27
25. 04-14-21-25-31
26. 04-14-21-27-31
27. 04-14-22-25-27
28. 04-14-22-25-31
29. 04-14-22-27-31
30. 04-14-25-27-31
31. 04-21-22-25-27
32. 04-21-22-25-31
33. 04-21-22-27-31
34. 04-21-25-27-31
35. 04-22-25-27-31
36. 06-14-21-22-25
37. 06-14-21-22-27
38. 06-14-21-22-31
39. 06-14-21-25-27
40. 06-14-21-25-31
41. 06-14-21-27-31
42. 06-14-22-25-27
43. 06-14-22-25-31
44. 06-14-22-27-31
45. 06-14-25-27-31
46. 06-21-22-25-27
47. 06-21-22-25-31
48. 06-21-22-27-31
49. 06-21-25-27-31
50. 06-22-25-27-31
51. 14-21-22-25-27
52. 14-21-22-25-31
53. 14-21-22-27-31
54. 14-21-25-27-31
55. 14-22-25-27-31
56. 21-22-25-27-31

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Watching these:

1. 04-06-14-21-22
2. 04-06-14-21-25
3. 04-06-14-21-27
4. 04-06-14-21-31
5. 04-06-14-22-25
6. 04-06-14-22-27
7. 04-06-14-22-31
8. 04-06-14-25-27
9. 04-06-14-25-31
10. 04-06-14-27-31
11. 04-06-21-22-25
12. 04-06-21-22-27
13. 04-06-21-22-31
14. 04-06-21-25-27
15. 04-06-21-25-31
16. 04-06-21-27-31
17. 04-06-22-25-27
18. 04-06-22-25-31
19. 04-06-22-27-31
20. 04-06-25-27-31
21. 04-14-21-22-25
22. 04-14-21-22-27
23. 04-14-21-22-31
24. 04-14-21-25-27
25. 04-14-21-25-31
26. 04-14-21-27-31
27. 04-14-22-25-27
28. 04-14-22-25-31
29. 04-14-22-27-31
30. 04-14-25-27-31
31. 04-21-22-25-27
32. 04-21-22-25-31
33. 04-21-22-27-31
34. 04-21-25-27-31
35. 04-22-25-27-31
36. 06-14-21-22-25
37. 06-14-21-22-27
38. 06-14-21-22-31
39. 06-14-21-25-27
40. 06-14-21-25-31
41. 06-14-21-27-31
42. 06-14-22-25-27
43. 06-14-22-25-31
44. 06-14-22-27-31
45. 06-14-25-27-31
46. 06-21-22-25-27
47. 06-21-22-25-31
48. 06-21-22-27-31
49. 06-21-25-27-31
50. 06-22-25-27-31
51. 14-21-22-25-27
52. 14-21-22-25-31
53. 14-21-22-27-31
54. 14-21-25-27-31
55. 14-22-25-27-31
56. 21-22-25-27-31

Got 3 out of 5 in a few lines..

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What numbers are due the most:

6, 11, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 39

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