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Dateline NBC, Sunday May 3, Lottery clerks Who Cheat Players

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Posted: May 3, 2009, 3:43 pm - IP Logged

Don't they have those scanner things that scan the barcode of the ticket and tell you how much you won?  I had an instance when I thought I won 500 dollars on a scratch ticket because 500 showed up as a prize amount, but it turned out the 500 needed to show up as a winning number to be a winner.  Since I wasn't sure if I won, I asked the clerk and she scanned it, handed me back a slip telling me I didn't win anything.  :(

I ususally tell them how much I think I won so I don't get ripped off.  Then they will have to explain in the case that they do try and rip me off.  Worked so far.


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    Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:09 pm - IP Logged

    The thieving clerks got off with a slap on the wrists.If they had made the punishment fit the crime you would see a lot less of this stuff happening.Sign those tickets and the clerks won't bother trying to steal the big tickets and probably not the smaller tickets either.

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      Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:15 pm - IP Logged

      Saw the show tonight and was impressed until Donald Trump came on it.

      I did noticed that a lot of the sales persons were not American born!!  When they catched them stealing why don't they just councel the Visas??

      I hope all states follow the California as an example that has been set!!

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        Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

        Saw the show tonight and was impressed until Donald Trump came on it.

        I did noticed that a lot of the sales persons were not American born!!  When they catched them stealing why don't they just councel the Visas??

        I hope all states follow the California as an example that has been set!!

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        There is no way of knowing if they were American born or here on a visa.They may be naturalized citizens for all we know.

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          Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:26 pm - IP Logged

          Just finished watching it.  I'm not surprised.  U can't trust anyone!!!

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            Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:31 pm - IP Logged

            Can't believe NY Lottery commission rejected the investigation from NBC...they may be afraid of losing sales from it.

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              Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:35 pm - IP Logged

              I was surprised to hear the one retailer offering to buy the ticket for 65% of its cash value.  I would have thought that in his likely tax bracket, he wouldn't make much of a profit unless he was laundering money.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: May 3, 2009, 9:58 pm - IP Logged

                Can't believe NY Lottery commission rejected the investigation from NBC...they may be afraid of losing sales from it.

                Yeah and they notified the retail clerks about it too.

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                  Posted: May 3, 2009, 10:06 pm - IP Logged

                  They want to maintain the confidence of players in their games which is ridiculous.

                  First let me say that every player is responsible for their ticket from the time they decided to purchase it to the time it is redeemed.

                  I DO NOT sympathize with players who get scammed out of their winnings.

                  If you purchased a ticket you should be smart enough to know if you win or not (How much is irrelevant)

                  I personally have never handed a clerk a ticket to check for me that I didn't know what it was worth.

                  I have the feeling this victims do not buy as many tickets as I do, therefore they should have time to check their own tickets.

                  Apparently this scheme is prevalent. Retailers winning over 100 thousand dollars.

                  I think to maintain their reputation and intergrity, the lottery should always have ongoing investigations like the one on the show.

                  Unfortunately, our society tries to take the human element out of our transactions which provides false faith.

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                    Posted: May 3, 2009, 10:14 pm - IP Logged

                    Yeah and they notified the retail clerks about it too.

                    Good Show!

                    But I don't think they want a "to catch a predator" reputation.

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                      Posted: May 3, 2009, 10:52 pm - IP Logged

                      Yeah and they notified the retail clerks about it too.

                      Guess they thought NBC was out to give them a bad name, but actually doing the public service in spreading awareness on bad clerks. Notifying every lottery retailers about without hearing out what NBC have to offer in full details is rather immature. LOL

                      I am glad other states followed CA with investigations.

                      Also noticed the tickets where majority are scratch-offs. They should have a scanner for them too, like they do for the printed slips.

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                        Posted: May 4, 2009, 12:15 am - IP Logged

                        I can't cut and paste the warning NY state lottery sent the retailers, here's my retype:

                        "RETAILER ALERT

                        Warning: NBC is trying to trick lottery retailers into stealing winning lottery tickets.  If caught you can lose your license and be fined and imprisoned." 

                        There is also a post on the internet about an email thread between the heads of NY and Ca lotteries about this.

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                          Posted: May 4, 2009, 12:33 am - IP Logged

                          I can't cut and paste the warning NY state lottery sent the retailers, here's my retype:

                          "RETAILER ALERT

                          Warning: NBC is trying to trick lottery retailers into stealing winning lottery tickets.  If caught you can lose your license and be fined and imprisoned." 

                          There is also a post on the internet about an email thread between the heads of NY and Ca lotteries about this.

                          Why would they warn the retailers in the first place.? If retailers and clerks are honest and not thieves, they would have nothing to worry about. It makes it look like the NY state lottery has something to hide by sending out a warning.

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                            Posted: May 4, 2009, 1:04 am - IP Logged

                            I've had clerks who either cheated me or were incompetent in their job.  First of all, I usually go to a grocery store customer service desk to purchase my tickets.  If you have a bunch of $1.00 or $2.00 winning lottery tickets, and if you mark each one with a "1" or a "2", then it's easy for them to slip one or two off to the side and say that I handed them only 4 when in fact I had handed them 5.  And what are you going to do?  Cause a scene because of a one or two dollar difference?  Ask to see the store manager because of a one or two dollar difference?  Believe me, I've thought about doing just that.  But I guess if I had the job that they have, and had to deal with the aggravations that they have to deal with, I might justify it by thinking that I don't get paid enough for the job that I do.  But when a store does that to me, then I just quit going to that store for lottery tickets.

                            Money can't buy you happiness, but I sure could afford the misery that it brings! Wink

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                              Posted: May 4, 2009, 1:59 am - IP Logged

                              LOL!  I checked my name at the Lost Money website before with the state, nada.  Tonight while the show was still on TV I checked again. WoW!!  I have two checks there since 1999!!  Neat!

                              I don't know how much yet, I have to send in the forms to claim it.  Guess what I'm doing tomorow??  LOL!! 

                              Happy!!! 

                              I checked everybody I knew, even my granparents, I'm the only one that has anything.  Oh well.  I thought I would get a finders fee - a kiss would do.

                               

                              As for the Cheaters?  Good that they are getting jail time, but they should pass a law equal that of the casinos??  If you work as a retailer, you can not play the lottery.  Period.  They can't play down at the casinos, so they shouldn't play the lottery. 

                              Very simple.  And if caught they not only get jail time for stealing from customers but they get a progressive fine, 100,000. first offense, 200,000. second offense.  Okay I could go on to One Million, if it takes that - do it!

                              As for some states warning the retailers?  You don't know greedy people well if you think that will stop them.  They will just get more sneakier, greed is a very powerful force, and if one has it in their nature nothing will stop them.  Nothing.  Same with other abnormal aspects of people's personalities, like drugs or alcohol, or betting on numbers.  Sorry I had to!!  :-).

                              Its a shame that people are so dern greedy.  I don't like greedy folks around me.  Bad Chi.