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Posted: July 25, 2009, 5:55 pm - IP Logged

For New Mexico the first Pick 3 draw was September 25, 2000.

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    Posted: July 29, 2009, 8:07 am - IP Logged

    For New Mexico the first Pick 3 draw was September 25, 2000.

    Thanks, I have updated the chart with the date.  Do you know what the start date of Road Runner Cash is?

     

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      Posted: July 29, 2009, 8:08 am - IP Logged

      I just wanted to say thanks to simmonsjeffreya for providing a ton of useful information on the multi-state games, which I have updated in the chart on page 1.  I will be following up on the link you provided (I did get them).

       

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        Posted: July 29, 2009, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

        Thansk for the mention and reenabling my account.  I also managed to dig these up last night.  I have the links to relevant information of where the dates came from, as well as some data that you have missing directly from the lotteries websites.  I can't seem to find how long it takes before I can post links though, and also if posting links in PM's is allowed.  If you'd let me know if posting links via PM is allowed, I'll send you all the links so you can grab that data.  I have listed the lottery, the starting date I found, and whether it matches the date you have.

        Multi-Country EuroMillions        02/13/2004    Correct

         

        Multi-Province Canada Lotto 6/49    06/12/1982    Correct

        Multi-Province Canada Super 7        06/10/1994    Correct

         

        Arizona Pick 3                 05/04/1998     Wrong

        Arizona Cash 4                03/30/2009    Correct

        Arizona Pick 5                10/04/1991    Correct

        Arizona The Pick                10/13/1984    Wrong

         

        Atlantic Canada Salsa Bingo        04/01/2008    Correct

        Atlantic Canada Keno Atlantic        10/22/2001    Correct

        Atlantic Canada Pik 4            06/12/1982    Wrong

        Atlantic Canada Bucko            2/2/2006    Correct

        Atlantic Canada Atlantic 6/49        11/13/2002    Correct

        Atlantic Canada Tag            05/04/1988    Wrong

         

        British Columbia Extra            08/24/1988    Correct

        British Columbia BC/49            01/29/1992    Correct

         

        California Daily Derby            01/20/1998    Correct

        California Midday 3                11/04/2002    Correct 

        California Daily 3                04/13/1992    Wrong

        California Daily 4                05/19/2008    Correct

        California SuperLotto Plus            06/07/2000    Wrong

        California Fantasy 5            02/04/1992    Correct

         

        Colorado Cash 5                09/20/1996    Correct

        Colorado Lotto                01/28/1989    Correct

         

        Connecticut Midday 3            02/02/1998    Wrong

        Connecticut Play 3                03/16/1977    Wrong

        Connecticut Midday 4            02/02/1998    Wrong

        Connecticut Play 4                10/24/1980    Wrong

        Connecticut Lucky-4-Life            03/29/2009    Wrong

        Connecticut Cash 5                04/05/1992    Wrong

        Connecticut Classic Lotto            11/07/1983    Wrong

         

        Delaware Midday 3                05/18/1993    Wrong

        Delaware Play 3                01/24/1978    Wrong

        Delaware Midday 4                05/18/1993    Wrong

        Delaware Play 4                01/11/1980    Wrong

        Delaware Multi-Win Lotto            01/28/2005    Correct

         

        Florida Play 4 Evening            Just wanted to make a note here, you have 07/04/1991 listed as first date, but according to their website, 07/05/1991 was the first drawing?

        Florida Lotto                    05/28/1988    Wrong

        Florida Mega Money            02/25/1998    Wrong

        Florida Fantasy 5                04/28/1989   Wrong 

        These dates are listed already as confirmed, but they appear to be wrong according to their timeline above.

         

        Georgia Fantasy 5                11/15/1994    Wrong        Tickets started selling 11/14/1994, first drawing 11/15/1994(Tuesday)

        Georgia Cash 4                04/06/1997   Wrong

         

        That's it for now, I should be able to do more later (I've got lots of free time.)  Again, just let me know when I'll be allowed to post links (how long or how many posts are required) or if it's possible to PM you the links as I've all the timelines I pulled the information from saved as well as where you can download the data (for some) in CSV format direct from them.

        -Jeff

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          Posted: July 29, 2009, 6:49 pm - IP Logged

          The first draw date for NM RoadRunner Cash is July 3, 1998.

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            Got some more info, probably will be it for tonight...

             

            Idaho Pick 3                    06/05/2000    Wrong

            Idaho Double Play Draw 1            05/03/2009    Correct

            Idaho Double Play Draw 2            05/03/2009    Correct

             

            Illinois Info is Correct

             

            Indiana Quick Draw                03/01/2009    Correct

            Indiana Midday 3                08/20/2001    Correct

            Indiana Daily 3                07/02/1990    Wrong

            Indiana Midday 4                08/20/2001    Correct

            Indiana Daily 4                07/02/1990    Wrong

            Indiana Lucky 5 Midday            10/07/2002    Correct

            Indiana Lucky 5                11/05/1993    Wrong

            Indiana Mix and Match            05/26/2006    Correct

            Indiana Lotto                    09/24/1994    Wrong

             

            Iowa Midday 3                09/22/2003    Correct

            Iowa Pick 3                    07/13/1998    Correct

            Iowa Midday 4                09/22/2003    Correct

            Iowa Pick 4                    09/21/2003    Correct

            Iowa Cash Game                01/27/1992    Correct

             

            Ireland Plus                    06/15/2007    Wrong    (Only info I could find was via Wikipedia, so take with a grain of salt.)

            Ireland Lotto                    04/16/1988    Wrong 

            Ireland Lotto Plus 1                10/28/2000    Correct

            Ireland Lotto Plus 2                09/04/2002    Correct

            Ireland Monday Million            09/29/2008    Correct    (Again Wikipedia was the only source of information on this I could find, but had a somewhat solid source in an Irish Times article.)

             

            Kansas Pick 3                01/21/1992    Wrong

            Kansas Super Kansas Cash        08/18/1996    Wrong

             

            Kentucky Midday Pick 3            03/15/1999    Wrong

            Kentucky Pick 3                11/20/1989    Wrong      Started as Kentucky Cash and was renamed Pick 3.

            Kentucky Midday Pick 4            03/15/1999    Wrong

            Kentucky Cashball                03/04/2001    Wrong

            Kentucky Pick 4                04/04/1994    Wrong     Replaces "The Pick."

            Kentucky 3 Line Lotto            04/2007    ASSUME Correct  (Only mentions being started in April 2007, so I ASSUME your date is correct.)

             

            Louisiana Pick 3                08/31/1992    Correct

            Louisiana Pick 4                03/01/1999    Correct

            Louisiana Easy 5                09/19/2007    Correct

            Louisiana Lotto                02/01/1992    Correct

             

             

            That's it for now, hopefully I'll have time to continue tomorrow.

            -Jeff

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              Posted: July 30, 2009, 12:38 pm - IP Logged

              Jeff,

              Thank you very much for your efforts.  I'll get the chart updated with your new data.

              EVERYONE ELSE:   Are you going to make Jeff do all the work?  This is really not difficult to do, it just requires a little time on your part.  Why not give back to the site even just a little -- do a little leg-work and find out some missing dates.  Just do your own state, if that's all you have time for.  SOMETHING.

               

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                Posted: July 30, 2009, 12:39 pm - IP Logged

                The first draw date for NM RoadRunner Cash is July 3, 1998.

                Thank you for tracking down that date.

                 

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                  Posted: July 30, 2009, 12:48 pm - IP Logged

                  @Jeff:

                  If you need to send me something that includes links, the best way to avoid the spam filters would be to use the Contact Us page (link on left).  Just click the topic for "other" and you should be able to paste whatever you need to in the form.

                  Also, I am going through your entries and there's one I need some verification on.  You have:

                  California SuperLotto Plus            06/07/2000    Wrong

                  But in the LP database (and the chart) I have the start date as 10/18/1986.  Would you mind double-checking that one for me?

                  Thank you again for your efforts!!

                   

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                    @Jeff,

                    Following up on Florida, the first drawing of Play 4 Eve was definitely 7/4/91.  They do in fact have that date in their draw history too.  The result was 0-2-3-0.

                    On the other Fla. games, you're right, I'm not sure why I have the wrong dates listed as confirmed, but I think your dates are off too.

                    The Lotto first draw was 05/07/88.

                    The first draw for Fantasy 5 was 05/02/89, from what I can tell.  (Result was 27-28-29-30-33.)

                    You have Mega Money correct.

                     

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                      Posted: July 30, 2009, 1:26 pm - IP Logged

                      @Jeff,

                      Whew, I have finished updating the chart on page 1 with all the new data and hopefully got all the colors right for easy scanning by eye.  I input the Florida dates per my previous message, but if you feel those dates are wrong, I will certainly change it to whatever the correct date is.

                       

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                        Posted: July 30, 2009, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

                        I have tracked down most of the Quebec dates and updated the chart.  La Mini is going to be an interesting one to get a hold of the numbers for, because the game stopped its drawings at some point, and because it started back in 1970, it is highly unlikely that the results exist in electronic form.

                         

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                          @Jeff,

                          Following up on Florida, the first drawing of Play 4 Eve was definitely 7/4/91.  They do in fact have that date in their draw history too.  The result was 0-2-3-0.

                          On the other Fla. games, you're right, I'm not sure why I have the wrong dates listed as confirmed, but I think your dates are off too.

                          The Lotto first draw was 05/07/88.

                          The first draw for Fantasy 5 was 05/02/89, from what I can tell.  (Result was 27-28-29-30-33.)

                          You have Mega Money correct.

                          Play 4 is 1991

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                            Posted: July 30, 2009, 10:02 pm - IP Logged

                            Todd,

                            Now that I'm looking back at the Florida Lottery, I see why I was wrong. on the Fantasy 5 drawing.  The game was "introduced" on Friday, 4/28/89.  I hadn't taken into account that this was a Tuesday/Friday draw only, which would indeed make the first drawing Tuesday, 05/02/89.  I incorrectly assumed the 28th was the first drawing because of it being a Friday, but then looked into the complete list of data, and saw that 05/02/89 was the first, which makes sense since they wouldn't have had much tickets sold if they drew the day they introduced it.

                            I agree that the first Lotto draw was 05/07/88 based on the complete drawings history they offer in PDF format.

                            Finally, I also aggree with your 7/4/91 date for Play 4 Eve.  I had read conflicting information on this date on the FL lottery site, and just took a peak at the winning numbers list and 7/4/91 is indeed the first drawing.

                            Sorry for the confusion on these.

                            -Jeff

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                              Todd,

                              Again apologies for the confusion on this one as well.  The reason I came up with the 06/07/2000 date was because SuperLotto Plus has changed format many times.  I have confirmed that this game did indeed start in 1986, but can't find a specific date.  The game was in a 6/49 format originally but between 1990 and 2000, the game changed formats from 6/49 to 6/53+1 and then to a 51 number game.  The game then changed to the current game format on 06/07/2000, which is where I came up with that date.  Since the California Lottery didn't have a history page, I used their past winning numbers charts to find the data, and they started with 06/07/2000 because of the format change.

                              Again sorry for the confusion on this and the Florida dates.  I'll send off the links to the data I could find for you via the Contact Us form as you suggested in a bit.

                              -Jeff