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Todd,

Again apologies for the confusion on this one as well.  The reason I came up with the 06/07/2000 date was because SuperLotto Plus has changed format many times.  I have confirmed that this game did indeed start in 1986, but can't find a specific date.  The game was in a 6/49 format originally but between 1990 and 2000, the game changed formats from 6/49 to 6/53+1 and then to a 51 number game.  The game then changed to the current game format on 06/07/2000, which is where I came up with that date.  Since the California Lottery didn't have a history page, I used their past winning numbers charts to find the data, and they started with 06/07/2000 because of the format change.

Again sorry for the confusion on this and the Florida dates.  I'll send off the links to the data I could find for you via the Contact Us form as you suggested in a bit.

-Jeff

It's perfectly OK.  In fact, I find this kind of checking and double-checking to be the best way to iron out lottery data.  It is really difficult to do, and it's almost impossible for one person to do it alone.

For those games where you see data at LP stretching back to the 1970s-1980s-1990s, those are almost always games that I was able to previously track down the past results for, and got them loaded.  I think my 10/18/1986 date for Calif. SuperLotto is the first draw, but I just haven't been able to verify it yet.  I believe at one point I obtained the draw history, but I just can't remember.

 

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    Well, I just sent you a message via the Contact Us form with the links to a "little bit" of info. ROFL  Hope it all helps out, and should keep you busy for a bit!

    Anyways, because of the issue with the Florida Fantasy 5, I went back and double checked all the dates that didn't match up.  I did find a couple errors on my part.

    Connecticut Lucky-4-Life you were right, I hadn't taken into account drawings only on certain days of the week and went by the "date introduced."

    Again another snafu, Georgia Fantasy 5 first drawing was 11/18/1994.  Again, didn't consider not being daily drawings, ugh.

    Also, you listed the Georgia Fantasy 5 date in both the Florida and Georgia boxes on the master list.

    -Jeff

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      North Carolina

      Pick 3 Midday 672

      3/31/2008

      3/31/2008

      North Carolina

      Pick 3   331

      10/6/2006

      10/6/2006

      North Carolina

      Pick 4   9441

      4/17/2009

      4/17/2009

      North Carolina

      Cash 5 7 21 27 35 36

      10/27/2006

      10/27/2006

       

       

       

       

      Here are the results for NC.

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        Well, I just sent you a message via the Contact Us form with the links to a "little bit" of info. ROFL  Hope it all helps out, and should keep you busy for a bit!

        Anyways, because of the issue with the Florida Fantasy 5, I went back and double checked all the dates that didn't match up.  I did find a couple errors on my part.

        Connecticut Lucky-4-Life you were right, I hadn't taken into account drawings only on certain days of the week and went by the "date introduced."

        Again another snafu, Georgia Fantasy 5 first drawing was 11/18/1994.  Again, didn't consider not being daily drawings, ugh.

        Also, you listed the Georgia Fantasy 5 date in both the Florida and Georgia boxes on the master list.

        -Jeff

        Thanks, I will fix the chart if it needs correcting.

        I finished collecting and uploading all the Florida Fantasy 5 data, back to the first drawing on 5/2/1989, so another one is checked off the list!

         

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          I am happy to report that the Florida results are complete, now that I have finished collecting and loading the Lotto and Mega Money results back to the first draws of each.

          Too bad nobody else is joining in to help here (other than Jeff), but at least I'm continuing to plug along.

           

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            Hey Todd,

            Just got a reply from the Kentucky Lottery with complete data in Excel's format.  I'll forward it your way ASAP.  I've got some free time tonight so I'll look up a few more dates as well.

            -Jeff

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              Hey Todd,

              Just got a reply from the Kentucky Lottery with complete data in Excel's format.  I'll forward it your way ASAP.  I've got some free time tonight so I'll look up a few more dates as well.

              -Jeff

              Awesome, got it, thanks!

               

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                Here's a few more dates:

                Maryland Midday Pick 3                      05/01/1995    Correct
                Maryland Pick 3                                 07/29/1976    Correct
                Maryland Midday Pick 4                      05/01/1995    Correct
                Maryland Pick 4                                 04/08/1983    Correct
                Maryland Bonus Match 5                    10/10/1991    Wrong? 10/10/1991 is when "Match 5" began, the Bonus didn't come in until 09/17/1995.  The game ended 01/15/1998, but came back 02/04/2002.  So I'm not sure if you want to count that as the same game starting 10/10/1991 which would mean your data is incomplete.  But if you want to count only the "new" version, data is complete.
                Maryland Multi-Match                        02/04/2006    Correct

                Massachusetts Numbers Midday        06/09/2008    Correct
                Massachusetts Numbers Evening       04/10/1976    Wrong
                Massachusetts Mass Cash                 03/28/1991    Wrong
                Massachusetts Megabucks Doubler    11/27/1982    Wrong
                Massachusetts Cash Winfall              09/13/2004    Correct

                Michigan Keno                                 04/09/1990    Wrong
                Michigan Midday 3                           12/16/1996    Correct
                Michigan Daily 3                              06/06/1977    Correct
                Michigan Midday 4                           12/16/1996    Correct
                Michigan Daily 4                              10/05/1981    Correct
                Michigan Fantasy 5                          09/12/2004    Correct
                Michigan Classic Lotto 47                 05/18/2005    Correct

                Minnesota Daily 3                           08/14/1990    Wrong
                Minnesota Northstar Cash               10/07/2003    Correct
                Minnesota Gopher 5                       05/24/1991    Wrong

                Missouri Midday Pick 3                    07/26/2004    Correct
                Missouri Pick 3                               ?
                Missouri Midday Pick 4                    07/26/2004    Correct
                Missouri Pick 4                               11/02/1998    Correct
                Missouri Show Me Cash                   ?                   Your date is correct for "Show Me Cash," but it was just a name change from "Show Me 5" which goes way back.  Your call, but I requested data for Show Me 5 as well just in case you want to include that data as well.
                Missouri Lotto                                ?
                The ones with ?'s don't have enough data posted on the website.  Sent them a quick email asking for the full data.

                Montana Montana Cash                   05/11/1991    Wrong    Sent an email to get complete data as the data on the website only goes back 10 years.

                 

                 

                I also have looked up all the data locations for these states.  I'll email them to you once I finish up for the night.

                -Jeff

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                  Well, I didn't think of looking at the "History" page for the Missouri Lottery, according to that these dates are when "sales began."  So the first drawing might not be that exact date, but sometime close to them.

                  Missouri Pick 3                        02/26/1987    Wrong

                  Missouri Show Me Cash            11/06/1994    Wrong (assuming you want to include "Show Me 5" data.)

                  Missouri Lotto                         10/01/1986    Wrong

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                    Last date update for the night...

                    Nebraska Pick 3                            05/23/2005    Correct   
                    Nebraska Pick 5                            Couldn't find date, contacted them regarding this and all data for it.
                    Nebraska MyDaY                           10/1/2008    You didn't include this game in your list?

                    New Jersey Midday Pick 3              11/12/2001    Correct
                    New Jersey Pick 3                         05/22/1975    Correct
                    New Jersey Midday Pick 4              11/12/2001    Correct
                    New Jersey Pick 4                         09/01/1977    Correct
                    New Jersey Cash 5                        10/07/1992    Correct
                    New Jersey Pick 6                         05/15/1980    Correct    Assumed all these were right, but checked anyways.

                    New Mexico Pick 3                        09/25/2000    Wrong
                    New Mexico Road Runner Cash      02/10/1998    Wrong    (Not sure where other date came from, but this one was listed in their history page.)

                    New York Pick 10                         ?
                    New York Midday Numbers           ?
                    New York Numbers                      ?
                    New York Midday Win 4                ?
                    New York Win 4                           ?
                    New York Take 5                          ?
                    New York Lotto                            ?
                    Figures that this is my state, and it's the only one I can't confirm any of the dates for so far.  I sent them an email requesting all data files though.

                    North Carolina Pick 3 Midday        03/31/2008    Correct
                    North Carolina Pick 3                   10/06/2006    Correct
                    North Carolina Pick 4                   04/17/2009    Correct
                    North Carolina Cash 5                  10/27/2006    Correct

                    Ohio Ten-OH Midday                    08/06/2007    Correct   (Not sure where the 8/4 day is from)
                    Ohio Ten-OH Evening                   08/06/2007    Correct
                    Ohio Midday PIck 3                      08/16/1999    Correct
                    Ohio Pick 3                                 12/31/1979    Wrong
                    Ohio Midday Pick 4                      08/16/1999    Correct
                    Ohio Pick 4                                 04/09/1981    Wrong
                    Ohio Rolling Cash 5                     10/04/2004    Correct
                    Ohio Kicker                                 01/04/1989    Wrong
                    Ohio Classic Lotto                       01/22/2007    Correct

                    Oklahoma Pick 3                         11/10/2005    Correct
                    Oklahoma Cash 5                       09/05/2006    Correct

                    Ontario Daily Keno                     ?
                    Ontario Pick 3                            ?
                    Ontario Early Bird                      ?
                    Ontario PayDay                         ?
                    Ontario Pick 4                           ?
                    Ontario Ontario 49                     ?
                    Ontario Lottario                         ?
                    Ontario Encore                          ?
                    Couldn't find a single date for any of these.

                    Oregon Lucky Lines                    04/10/2006    Correct
                    Oregon Pick 4 1pm                     02/11/2002    Correct
                    Oregon Pick 4 4pm                     02/11/2002    Correct
                    Oregon Pick 4 7pm                     04/24/2000    Wrong
                    Oregon Win For Life                    02/19/2001    Correct
                    Oregon Pick 4 10pm                   02/11/2002    Correct
                    Oregon Megabucks                     11/20/1985    Wrong

                    Pennysylvania Midday Daily #     02/11/2003    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Daily Number       03/01/1977    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Midday Big 4        02/11/2003    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Big 4                   11/22/1980    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Treasure Hunt      05/08/2007    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Quinto Midday      08/26/2008    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Quinto Evening    08/26/2008    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Mix and Match     01/25/2007    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Cash 5                04/23/1992    Correct
                    Pennysylvania Super7                03/13/2009    Correct

                    Puerto Rico Loteria Tradicional    ?????????       ?????
                    Puerto Rico Pega 2                    07/10/2002    Wrong
                    Puerto Rico Pega 3                    11/10/1990    Wrong
                    Puerto Rico Pega 4                    07/10/2002    Wrong
                    Puerto Rico Loto                        07/19/1991    Wrong
                    Puerto Rico Revancha                09/04/2002    Wrong
                    The dates I came up with are pretty concrete, couldn't find loteria tradicional, I don't read (spanish?) so I tried my best with these.  Just remember when you enter data, they do dates as DD/MM/YYY instead of MM/DD/YYYY like we do.

                    Quebec Astro                           ?
                    Quebec Banco                          ?
                    Quebec La Quotidienne 3          ?
                    Quebec La Quotidienne 4          ?
                    Quebec Tango                          01/16/2009    Correct
                    Quebec Triplex                         ?
                    Quebec La Mini                        ?
                    Quebec Quebec 49                   ?
                    Quebec Jour de Paye                ?
                    Quebec Extra                           ?
                    Couldn't find a single date for any of the rest, hopefully data you have is good.  ( I find it odd these ones are so hard to find compared to the BC and Atlantic Canada results)

                    Rhode Island Numbers Game    ?
                    Rhode Island Wild Money          ?
                    Another one I couldn't find info on, Emailed them as well.

                    South Carolina Midday 3           07/01/2003    Correct
                    South Carolina Pick 3                03/07/2002    Correct
                    South Carolina Midday 4           07/01/2003    Correct
                    South Carolina Pick 4                01/27/2003    Correct
                    South Carolina Palmetto Cash 5 02/14/2005    Correct
                    South Carolina MegaMatch 6     02/05/2008    Correct

                    South Dakota Dakota Cash       04/12/1993    Wrong

                    Tennessee Midday Cash 3         11/21/2005    Correct
                    Tennessee Cash 3                    03/01/2004    Correct
                    Tennessee Midday Cash 4         11/21/2005    Correct
                    Tennessee Cash 4                    04/18/2005    Correct
                    Tennessee Pick 5                     03/10/2008   ??????  Not sure what's going on here, their winning numbers pages only go back this far but you have much more data into 2004.
                    Tennessee Lotto Plus                03/11/2008    Correct

                    Texas Pick 3 Day                     04/29/2002    Correct
                    Texas Pick 3 Night                   10/25/1993    Correct
                    Texas Daily 4 Day                   10/01/2007    Correct
                    Texas Daily 4 Night                 10/01/2007    Correct
                    Texas Texas Two Step              05/18/2001    Correct
                    Texas Cash 5                          10/13/1995    Correct
                    Texas Lotto Texas                    11/14/1992    Correct

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                      Well I guess I lied, couldn't sleep so here's the last bit of the list.  Also, I'll send the email with all of the data I managed to dig up that was missing and I'll keep forwarding the data I couldn't find from the lotteries who are willing to send it.

                      -Jeff

                      UK National Lotto HotPicks              07/10/2002    ??????    The history file of UK National Lottery says this started on 07/10/2002, not 11/19/1994. (See email for link.)
                      UK National Thunderball                 06/12/1999    Correct
                      UK National Lotto 6/49                   11/19/1994    Correct
                      UK National Daily Play                    09/22/2003    Correct
                      UK National Dream Number            07/15/2006    Correct

                      Virginia Midday 3                           01/30/1995    Correct
                      Virginia Pick 3                                05/22/1989    Correct
                      Virginia Midday 4                            01/30/1995    Correct
                      Virginia Pick 4                                09/30/1991    Correct
                      Virginia Midday Cash 5                    04/12/1999    Correct
                      Virginia Cash 5                               02/05/1993    Correct

                      Washington Keno                            11/08/1992    Wrong
                      Washington Daily                            01/18/1984    Wrong
                      Washington Match 4                        08/03/2008    Correct
                      Washington Hit 5                             03/19/2007    Correct
                      Washington Lotto                            07/1984    Wrong   Can't find exact date.

                      Washington, D.C. Midday Lucky #'s  11/09/1992    Wrong
                      Washington, D.C. Lucky Numbers    08/22/1983    Wrong
                      Washington, D.C. Midday DC-4       11/09/1992    Wrong
                      Washington, D.C. DC-4                  03/12/1985    Wrong
                      Washington, D.C. Rolling Cash 5     11/14/2005    Wrong, missing one number, 01,16,32,33,35.  Game ended on 07/18/2009
                      Washington, D.C. Midday DC-5       07/19/2009    NEW
                      Washington, D.C. DC-5                  07/19/2009    NEW
                      Washington, D.C. DC Daily 6          08/28/2005    Correct

                      West Virginia Daily 3                     02/26/1987    Wrong
                      West Virginia Daily 4                     02/26/1987    Wrong
                      West Virginia Cash 25                   02/09/1990    Wrong

                      Western Canada Pick 3                  ?
                      Western Canada PayDay                ?
                      Western Canada Western 49          ?
                      Western Canada Extra                   ?
                      Again couldn't find dates for these.

                      Wisconsin Daily Pick 3                  09/21/1992    Wrong
                      Wisconsin Daily Pick 4                  09/15/1997    Wrong
                      Wisconsin Badger 5                      02/17/2003    Correct
                      Wisconsin Super Cash                  02/04/1991    Wrong
                      Wisconsin Megabucks                  06/20/1992    Correct

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                        @Jeff,

                        That is just plain tremendous.  Thank you!!  I'm going to work through all of that and update the chart.  I also appreciate very much that you're getting in contact with the lotteries -- this is the kind of assistance that really takes a load off my back.

                         

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                          I have finally finished updating the chart on page 1, and I made several corrections in the data based on the info from Jeff.  (BTW, I rec'd your e-mail too.  Amazing level of detail -- exactly the details I need -- and extremely helpful.)

                          Some of the miscellaneous changes:

                          • Inserted the missing results for Ontario Pick 3 for April 2002.  (Still missing previous draws for that game, but at least filled in the missing gap of data.)
                          • Fixed issue with UK Lotto HotPicks - first draw is now correctly set at July 10, 2002.
                          • Inserted NE MyDaY into chart.
                          • Deleted old DC Rolling Cash 5 game from chart and inserted new DC-5 Mid and Eve games
                          • The Quebec dates I found on their site.  Many of the games have a "Did you know?" section that includes the start date of the game.  But still missing the actual data because for some reason Canada lotteries do not like to publish historical draw data.
                          • For MD Bonus Match 5, I would like to include draw history back to the first version of the game, so I set the start date to 10/10/1991.
                          • I will probably do the same thing for MO Show Me 5, but I'm not positive. If you can get the data that would be great. I currently have data back to Jan. 1, 1998 for Show Me 5.
                          • For Puerto Rico Lotería Tradicional, of course if I can get the data I'll certainly input it, but I'm not going crazy to get the older data.  Going forward, I have finally developed a reliable method of obtaining it (very hard to come by), so all current and future data is golden.

                          It will take me a while to catch up on getting all the actual data loaded because it is very labor-intensive, but please do keep sending whatever you get your hands on.  If I can at least obtain all of it, I can get it loaded gradually when I get time slices to work on it.

                           

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                            I unlocked the thread so that it can continue to get feedback as needed.

                             

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