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Posted: September 5, 2009, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

Sweet CARBOB!

 

Nice Hit!

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    What I have for a very long time called the Lowest-Middle-Highest filter is really the "Permutations" filter.


    Florida Mid
    Sep 05, 2009    7-5-4 321
    Sep 04, 2009    7-6-9 213
    Sep 03, 2009    5-9-5 121
    Sep 02, 2009    0-9-7 132
    Sep 01, 2009    6-3-9 213
    Aug 31, 2009    5-0-4 312
    Aug 30, 2009    7-1-4 312
    Aug 29, 2009    4-1-1 211
    Aug 28, 2009    5-5-3 221

    Aug 27, 2009    6-2-9 213
    Aug 26, 2009    5-6-6 122
    Aug 25, 2009    0-8-0 121
    Aug 24, 2009    6-7-7 122

    Aug 23, 2009    1-7-0 231
    Aug 22, 2009    0-2-1 132
    -------------------------------------

    For Singles

    1 = Lowest

    2 = Middle

    3 = Highest

    -----

    Doubles

    1 = Lowest

    2 = Highest

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    It is very possible that I might had made mistakes there somewhere.

    For the pick 3 game and singles the permutations are 6 and for doubles are 3 as we all know.

    When you filter out 1 of the singles permutations you filter out 1/6 of the total number of singles, filter 2 and you filter out 2/6 or 1/3 of the total straight singles, Etc.

    That might help you all.

    Take a good look at those past draws, from last to next there was only 1 repeat of that filter that I can see, but again, nowdays my sight is not so good.

    How many of the past permutations for the singles can you often filter out and get away with (Without filter failure).

    The "LDR" is not the only good filter out-there.

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    That is my 2 cents for this thread, since people are feeling somewhat helpfull.

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      Haven't pay too much attention to LDR before. Now that I'm reminded, will have to built a system for it.

      this is something i have to be sober to get into,my eyes are killing me right about now.will look into this

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        Posted: September 5, 2009, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

        What I have for a very long time called the Lowest-Middle-Highest filter is really the "Permutations" filter.


        Florida Mid
        Sep 05, 2009    7-5-4 321
        Sep 04, 2009    7-6-9 213
        Sep 03, 2009    5-9-5 121
        Sep 02, 2009    0-9-7 132
        Sep 01, 2009    6-3-9 213
        Aug 31, 2009    5-0-4 312
        Aug 30, 2009    7-1-4 312
        Aug 29, 2009    4-1-1 211
        Aug 28, 2009    5-5-3 221

        Aug 27, 2009    6-2-9 213
        Aug 26, 2009    5-6-6 122
        Aug 25, 2009    0-8-0 121
        Aug 24, 2009    6-7-7 122

        Aug 23, 2009    1-7-0 231
        Aug 22, 2009    0-2-1 132
        -------------------------------------

        For Singles

        1 = Lowest

        2 = Middle

        3 = Highest

        -----

        Doubles

        1 = Lowest

        2 = Highest

        --------

        It is very possible that I might had made mistakes there somewhere.

        For the pick 3 game and singles the permutations are 6 and for doubles are 3 as we all know.

        When you filter out 1 of the singles permutations you filter out 1/6 of the total number of singles, filter 2 and you filter out 2/6 or 1/3 of the total straight singles, Etc.

        That might help you all.

        Take a good look at those past draws, from last to next there was only 1 repeat of that filter that I can see, but again, nowdays my sight is not so good.

        How many of the past permutations for the singles can you often filter out and get away with (Without filter failure).

        The "LDR" is not the only good filter out-there.

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        That is my 2 cents for this thread, since people are feeling somewhat helpfull.

        I need to make a correction, for the Doubles there are only 3 permutations:

        XXY = 221

        YXX = 122

        XYX = 212

        2 = Double Digits

        1 = Single Digit

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        Singles:

        123

        132

        231

        213

        312

        321

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          this is something i have to be sober to get into,my eyes are killing me right about now.will look into this

          I have already had a pint by now and it is clear to me. Go with Whiskey. It doesn't hurt the eyes.

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            This is very interesting. I am going to backtest this today against IN midday and evening.

            I want to make sure I am doing this correct:

             

            Lowest = 1 and represents 0,1,2,3

            Middle = 2 and represents 4,5,6

            Highest = 3 and represents 7,8,9.

             

            So if my number is 6-2-9 that gets changed to 213. This would pull out any numbers that that start with 4, 5 or 6 with a middle digit of 0, 1, 2, or 3 and in the third position anything with 7, 8 or 9. So, you plug those into a "permutation" calculator to get all of the combinations that you would eliminate?

            Wouldn't the first digit repeats eliminate the next winning draw? Using the Aug 28th and 29th example above, the 28th filter starts with 2 and the 29th draw started with 2. Wouldn't the filter from the 28th have eliminated the 4-1-1 draw on the 29th?

            I must be doing something incorrectly or I am not understanding this completely yet.

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              Posted: September 6, 2009, 6:35 am - IP Logged

              The L-M-H filter doesn't represent any digit. It's the order of the draw, 411 is 311 with 4 being the highest. 234 would be 1-2-3, if it was 324, then it would be 2-1-3.

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                The L-M-H filter doesn't represent any digit. It's the order of the draw, 411 is 311 with 4 being the highest. 234 would be 1-2-3, if it was 324, then it would be 2-1-3.

                Ahh! Got it.

                I appreciate the clarification CARBOB. I actually use HighMediumLow as a filter in my regular workout (you can see it on my blog).

                I didn't think to put numbers to the designations.

                 

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                  Ahh! Got it.

                  I appreciate the clarification CARBOB. I actually use HighMediumLow as a filter in my regular workout (you can see it on my blog).

                  I didn't think to put numbers to the designations.

                   

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                  http://www.lotterypost.com/search/member?t=all&q=Lantern

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                    Ahh! Got it.

                    I appreciate the clarification CARBOB. I actually use HighMediumLow as a filter in my regular workout (you can see it on my blog).

                    I didn't think to put numbers to the designations.

                     

                    LANTERN - you should really consider teaching. You could homeschool me. Chair

                    I have posted way too much, it would be very hard to go thru all of my posts here at L.P., both as LANTERN and as EXCALIBUR, but I have posted much more as LANTERN (I Think), I started out as EXCALIBUR, I have interesting posts as both of them, but of course, most of the posts are just trash same as most of the posts by most others.

                    What you want to see are only the filters posts, there are so very many of them here and there that it would be very hard to find all of them.

                    But I have a list of links that leads to some of them: Maybe these will be enough, for the complete info you would have to go thru all of my posts as both of me:

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/129119/545838?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/128980/544501?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/128746/542147?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/128427/539703?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/128264/537880?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/128148/536841?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/127743/534297?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/127249/527557?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/126912/523610?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/126729/521563?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/125078/503014?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/125081/503044?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/124806/500042?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/124503/496452?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/124331/494602?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/124235/493656?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/123976/491123?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/123426/489418?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/122099/471399?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/115963/408485?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/114643/396792?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/114242/393624?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/113360/386486?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/112709/380934?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/111965/373723?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/111125/365441?q=LANTERN

                    http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/110385/358594?q=LANTERN

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                      CARBOB is right.

                      The Low-Middle-High ARE other filterS, not the same as this one, but remember, it is no longer the Lowest-MIddle-Highest, now it is the "PERMUTATIONS" filter, there is a very good reason for the change.

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                      Low-Middle-High, that name stays the same for these 2 filters:

                      012-3456-789

                      0123-45-6789

                      Those are my 2 versions of that filter, but it might be best to only try to use the:

                      012-3456-789 version.

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                        These are real past draws shown.

                        Beware of any possible mistakes on all of my posts.

                        ABC = 1

                        ACB = 2

                        BCA = 3

                        BAC = 4

                        CAB = 5

                        CBA = 6

                        In Midday

                        3-6-5 ACB = 2
                        3-3-7 AAC
                        1-6-1 ACA
                        3-4-6 ABC = 1
                        4-0-5 BAC = 4
                        2-9-5 ACB = 2
                        8-5-3 CBA = 6
                        4-4-4 CCC
                        5-9-0 BCA = 3
                        8-4-4 CAA
                        -------
                        In Eve

                        7-1-5 CAB = 5
                        1-7-1 ACA
                        8-7-6 CBA = 6
                        2-1-4 BAC = 4
                        5-4-8 BAC = 4

                        9-5-6 CAB = 5
                        1-9-8 ACB = 2
                        9-6-7 CAB = 5
                        0-2-0 ACA
                        5-7-8 ABC = 1
                        --------

                        As seen the Doubles is like doing another game, so it is not to be mixed with the Singles for this filter.

                        For the Singles on 12 times it only repeated 1 time from last to next draw, that is very good as there are only 6 permutations-patterns, that is 1/12 failures.

                        -----

                        For the Doubles out of 3 there was 1 repeat on those draws, but these are too few draws for proper Doubles stats.

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                        Now filtering only one 1/6 pattern out of 6/6 is not enough as then it only filters out 120 straight Singles out of the total 720.

                        So, What do we do?

                        In old posts I talk and teach some about "Filters Tricks", filters tricks is one of my own techniques.

                        In this case, I will give a possible example to maybe use: (Remember, Singles with Singles Only, Don't Mix).

                        In Midday

                        3-6-5 ACB = 2
                        3-3-7 AAC
                        1-6-1 ACA
                        3-4-6 ABC = 1 = ABC + CBA = 2/6 or 1/3 Filtration For Next Singles Draw = 240 Straight Singles Filtered.
                        4-0-5 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB
                        2-9-5 ACB = 2 = ACB + BCA
                        8-5-3 CBA = 6 = CBA + ABC
                        4-4-4 CCC
                        5-9-0 BCA = 3 = BCA + ACB
                        8-4-4 CAA
                        ------- How well you do, might depend on how tricky you are. Since the Doubles would take your profit away, you would also either have to predict for them and or use more filters for more reduction.

                        You could also try mixing both daily draws to see how the mixed patterns look in that way and if they can give more reduction in that way or not.


                        In Eve

                        7-1-5 CAB = 5
                        1-7-1 ACA
                        8-7-6 CBA = 6 = CBA + ABC The Second Filter Pattern is a sequential reversal of the first pattern.
                        2-1-4 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB
                        5-4-8 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB

                        9-5-6 CAB = 5 = CAB + BAC
                        1-9-8 ACB = 2 = ACB + BCA
                        9-6-7 CAB = 5 = CAB + BAC
                        0-2-0 ACA
                        5-7-8 ABC = 1 = ABC + CBA
                        -------- Yes, there will be some filters failures, the more reduction, the more failures expected, in this case for double the total reduction there was just 1 more filters failure added to their total.

                        This is only 1 filter, overdoing any one filter might be very risky.

                        It takes testing, take a look here:

                        In Midday

                        3-6-5 ACB = 2
                        3-3-7 AAC
                        1-6-1 ACA
                        3-4-6 ABC = 1 = ABC + CBA + BCA Entiedes las technicas?
                        4-0-5 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB + ACB Do you understand the "Transposition" techniques?
                        2-9-5 ACB = 2 = ACB + BCA + CBA Transposition is also one of my "Fernando's Filters Tricks" techniques.
                        8-5-3 CBA = 6 = CBA + ABC + BAC
                        4-4-4 CCC
                        5-9-0 BCA = 3 = BCA + ACB + CAB
                        8-4-4 CAA

                        3/6 = 1/2 Singles total filtering, that is 120 x 3 = 360 Straight Singles Combos Filtered out


                        ------- How well you do, might depend on how tricky you are.Since the Doubles would take your profit away, you would also either have to predict for them and or use more filters for more reduction.

                        Youcould also try mixing both daily draws to see how the mixed patternslook in that way and if they can give more reduction in that way or not.


                        In Eve

                        7-1-5 CAB = 5
                        1-7-1 ACA
                        8-7-6 CBA = 6 = CBA + ABC + BAC
                        2-1-4 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB + ACB
                        5-4-8 BAC = 4 = BAC + CAB + ACB

                        9-5-6 CAB = 5 = CAB + BAC + ABC 
                        1-9-8 ACB = 2 = ACB + BCA + CBA
                        9-6-7 CAB = 5 = CAB + BAC + ABC
                        0-2-0 ACA

                        5-7-8 ABC = 1 = ABC + CBA + BCA

                        No additional filters failures added for the 3/6 added filtration seen here on these few past draws.

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                        You wanted some teaching? What do you want for a penny? Minus 360 Straight Singles? You Got Them!

                        You know, now-days I don't do much of this teaching, too many not so nice people reading posts here at L.P.

                        And also, too many takers, but not givers, even if they can, the ones that can't that I understand.

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                          Very Big Mistake, Those are Iowa draws and not from Indiana.

                          As I said, beware of mistakes, my eyes are not as they used to be.

                          I wanted to do Indiana, but picked Ia instead by mistake!

                          Too late now, too much work to re-do the posts, but you should see the techniques themselves and not so much the particular draws, these are just examples anyway, test and or do with your own state, it might or not work for it.

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                            Now, the Doubles by themselves: As there are only 3 permutations for the Doubles, this is extremely risky to try and do:

                            Sat, Sep 05, 2009    1-7-1 ACA
                            Fri, Sep 04, 2009    3-3-7 AAC + CAA
                            Thu, Sep 03, 2009    1-6-1 ACA + CAA
                            Sat, Aug 29, 2009    0-2-0 ACA + CAA
                            Wed, Aug 26, 2009    8-4-4 CAA + AAC

                            Combined Mid and Eve.

                            I failure seen there, 1/4 Failure, 1 out of 4 past draws for 2/3 filtration.

                            2/3 Straight Doubles Filtered out so only 90 Doubles out of 270 were left.

                            These are not enough past draws for proper evaluation of filters stats.

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                              What is this? Doubles paradise?

                              In Midday

                              4-6-6
                              6-6-2
                              1-1-0
                              0-9-1 ACB
                              7-9-5 BCA
                              5-2-2
                              9-2-0 CBA
                              0-4-4
                              1-9-9
                              1-1-4
                              ----
                              In Eve

                              9-4-3 CBA
                              4-4-7
                              3-9-0 BCA
                              3-4-7 ABC
                              3-6-6
                              1-9-7 ACB
                              7-6-0 CBA
                              7-4-1 CBA
                              5-8-9 ABC
                              3-8-9 ABC
                              -------

                              2 Filter failures already seen there for the Singles 2 out of 9, that is very bad.

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