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Sum-Root-Lowest To Highest Width.

7/23/2009    4-1-9 x 14 5 8
                    8-8-8
7/24/2009    5-1-9 x 15 6 8
                    9-0-3 x 12 3 9
7/25/2009    5-6-5
                    6-0-4
7/26/2009   1-2-4   
7/27/2009    2-9-8 x 19 1 7
                    4-9-5 x 18 8 5
7/28/2009    7-1-0 x 08 8 7
                    3-7-3
7/29/2009    2-5-0 x 07 7 5
                    2-1-9 x 12 3 8
7/30/2009    9-5-5
                    4-9-2 x 15 6 7
7/31/2009    2-1-9 x 12 3 8
                    7-6-1 x 14 5 6
8/1/2009     3-7-5
                   2-7-5 x 14 5 5
8/2/2009    2-3-9 x 14 5 7   
8/3/2009    8-3-0 x 11 2 8
                  1-8-8
8/4/2009    8-1-0 x 09 9 8
                  5-1-8 x 14 5 7
8/5/2009    7-6-2 x 15 6 5
                  1-6-9 x 16 7 8
8/6/2009    4-1-2
                   2-9-5 x 16 7 7
8/7/2009    7-1-8 x 16 7 7
                  8-8-9
8/8/2009    8-2-7 x 17 8 6
                  9-1-0 x 10 1 9
8/9/2009    8-0-2   
8/10/2009  7-2-5 x 14 5 5
                  4-9-6 x 19 1 5
8/11/2009  4-7-4
                  3-9-7
8/12/2009  9-9-6
                  7-7-0
8/13/2009  4-3-3
                  8-7-1 x 16 7 7
8/14/2009  9-8-0 x 17 8 9
                   1-7-3
8/15/2009   0-0-8
                   3-4-1
8/16/2009   4-6-6   
8/17/2009   7-0-5 x 12 3 7
                   3-0-3
8/18/2009   1-5-2 x 08 8 4
                   8-6-3 x 17 8 5
8/19/2009   8-1-5 x 14 5 7
                   0-1-3
8/20/2009   6-9-6
                   4-7-2 x 13 4 5
8/21/2009   2-3-0
                   2-7-0 x 09 9 7
8/22/2009   0-5-7 x 12 3 7
                   6-4-7 x 17 8 3
8/23/2009   5-0-2     x 07 7 5
8/24/2009   3-2-9 x 14 5 7
                    3-6-8 x 17 8 5
8/25/2009    9-3-2 x 14 5 7
                    4-3-9 x 16 7 6
8/26/2009    5-6-5
                    1-1-4
8/27/2009    6-1-2 x 09 9 5
                    1-9-9
8/28/2009    3-8-9 x 20 2 6
                     0-4-4
8/29/2009    5-8-9
                    9-2-0 x 11 2 9
8/30/2009    7-4-1     x 12 3 6
8/31/2009    7-6-0 x 13 4 7
                     5-2-2
9/1/2009      1-9-7
                    7-9-5
9/2/2009      3-6-6
                    0-9-1 x 10 1 9
9/3/2009      3-4-7 x 14 5 4
                    1-1-0
9/4/2009     3-9-0 x 12 3  9
                   6-6-2
9/5/2009    4-4-7     
                   4-6-6     
9/6/2009    9-4-3     x 16 7 6

This stats don't show many filters,such as High-Low, Even-Odd, In-Out Etc.

They also don't show 1 digit and 2 digits (Pairs) stats filters.

To win a game such as this, a person might need special stats and filters software such as LotSoft, including maybe its progression betting tool, also a person might need to develop prediction techniques for both, the Singles and the Doubles, so quite some betting money might be needed.

Progression betting also would make up for filters failures and long winning skips, that is not winning for many draws.

Even without progression betting it might be possible to make a profit, but I am not sure, the prediction techniques would have to be very perfected and a lot of time used on the study of the patterns.

A person would do better to study the whole range of 1, 2 and 3 digit filters-patterns-stats in order to come out with just the right prediciton technique.

Besides the stats on LotSoft a person might have to make other kinds, as even LotSoft does not have many kinds of stats that might be needed.

If a pick 3 game is "Honest", if it is not "Fixed", there is or are way(s) to crack it, with the right stats and filters tools and their proper use.

A person of course needs to have the right amount of free time.

If a game is not "Honest" maybe no matter what you do, you might not be able to make a profit, maybe not even with a very deep pocket and progression technique, unless you are really very very very very rich, as they can't hide pick 3 numbers forever.

Progression Betting might be the one thing that some lottery cartels have no protection against, some or many of them do have some protections against it.

What are your best prediction tools?

A bright mind and a bright computer programer, if you are both of them, then you might be set, unless the lotteries are not "Honest", then nothing might help.

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By the way, LotSoft is getting to be a little behind the times maybe, unless it allows a kind of "Preprogrammed" filter setups, mostly kinds of semidynamic setups, that is the latest nowdays and they can be saved and reloaded too, but I think that they don't yet are as flexable as they can or could be, but they are much better than the static filter setup that we see on the LotSoft free wheeler and most other programs, this might be an advantage of command line filtration tools, but maybe GUI filter tools could be made to also do some of this, but maybe they would have to be much more complex and flexable than they now are.

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Yes, automatic prediction by filters, your own way, is kind of here already, but maybe not yet fully implemented.

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    I talked about "Automatic lottery prediction scripts" long ago and now a kind of them is already here.

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      LANTERN is posible a software exist.. for filters somes SUMS range in mega lines?? you think is posible who can develop this kind of software?

      or for pick 2 00 to 99... a type of software too.?

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        I talked about "Automatic lottery prediction scripts" long ago and now a kind of them is already here.

        Hmmm, I kind of like that idea.

        I would envision some software taking all the combinations of filters and backtesting them automatically for your state and spitting out the combination that resulted in the most wins.

        Make is robust enough that it would consider and test combinations that we would not normally think of.

         

        Or make the interface robust enough that the user could pick combinations of filters and run them against some past draws.

        It would be complex but fun to play with!

         

        Deep Six Update

        I continued (am continuing) the testing of this system and since 09/03/09 have hit one more time and lost four times (Evening draws).

        After 38 draws, this system has produced 22 wins and 16 losses. After subtracting my starting stake of $1,500 the money left is currently $3,252.

        Not bad for less than 5 minutes a workout.

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          Hmmm, I kind of like that idea.

          I would envision some software taking all the combinations of filters and backtesting them automatically for your state and spitting out the combination that resulted in the most wins.

          Make is robust enough that it would consider and test combinations that we would not normally think of.

           

          Or make the interface robust enough that the user could pick combinations of filters and run them against some past draws.

          It would be complex but fun to play with!

           

          Deep Six Update

          I continued (am continuing) the testing of this system and since 09/03/09 have hit one more time and lost four times (Evening draws).

          After 38 draws, this system has produced 22 wins and 16 losses. After subtracting my starting stake of $1,500 the money left is currently $3,252.

          Not bad for less than 5 minutes a workout.

          Well the software is already out-there, but it does not make automatic prediction by itself and it is not that smart either nor that flexible.

          What it does do is run "Filters Prediction Scripts" at least some of them and to some degree.

          They can be reused as many times as a person wants to as they can be saved and then reloaded into the program.

          It saves time, but doing that gives the prediction a static element, I am not sure, but I think that it lacks basic logic, kind of like: If, or, and, then, else, nor, not, do Etc

          If it had some basic logic into it, more dynamic and accurate prediction scripts could be made.

          Maybe that will come in time, but again maybe not as the software developer is limited by the kind of software that he makes and or the way that he makes it and maybe not by his ability to code what is needed.

          Still it is a great step forward.

          I think that it can handle you Deep Six technique as it is very basic, but it can do much better than that also.

          Electronic logic circuits use:

          Truth Tables.

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            LANTERN is posible a software exist.. for filters somes SUMS range in mega lines?? you think is posible who can develop this kind of software?

            or for pick 2 00 to 99... a type of software too.?

            No there is no software for either of them here on the U.S.A as far as I know, I have not seen any, but in other countries, maybe, I don't know.

            The Mega Lines would or might be a bigger problen than the Quiniela.

            By the way, Mexico has a kind of Mega Lines game, I think that it is called Gato (Cat).

            It is almost the same as the Mega Lines.

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              Well the software is already out-there, but it does not make automatic prediction by itself and it is not that smart either nor that flexible.

              What it does do is run "Filters Prediction Scripts" at least some of them and to some degree.

              They can be reused as many times as a person wants to as they can be saved and then reloaded into the program.

              It saves time, but doing that gives the prediction a static element, I am not sure, but I think that it lacks basic logic, kind of like: If, or, and, then, else, nor, not, do Etc

              If it had some basic logic into it, more dynamic and accurate prediction scripts could be made.

              Maybe that will come in time, but again maybe not as the software developer is limited by the kind of software that he makes and or the way that he makes it and maybe not by his ability to code what is needed.

              Still it is a great step forward.

              I think that it can handle you Deep Six technique as it is very basic, but it can do much better than that also.

              Electronic logic circuits use:

              Truth Tables.

              Is this actual software that is available now? What is it? Where do you get it?

               

              I take it that this software could be setup so that I could put together a script that would (for example) filter out triples and doubles, then filter out specific sums, then filter all evens and then keeps combinations that contain a specific pair say or specific numbers. I could then "save" this script and call it up at any time.

               

              Is this what you are describing LANTERN?

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                As far as I know, Yes to all of that?

                The part that changes is that you need to input some past draws into it, the rest stays the same.

                It has to work on the past draws that you put into it, if that is how you set it up and you should.

                As to the other questions, only by email, not P.M. only email.

                Just like a program where you input past draws into it and then it gives a prediction, but in this case you control how the prediction is done.

                You prediction script should work on the past draws, just like your deep six technique does, but with any filters that the program has and you want to use for your script.

                First you develop a filters prediction technique and then you make the script in a way that the program will use it.

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                  I don't know what level of sophistication the program can handle, only its maker and seller would know its limits.

                  Questions would have to be directed mostly to the maker and seller.

                  I have seen it and used it just a few times, but in the old regular way, as it can also be used as a regular filtered wheeler also, more or less.

                  It is 1 or 2 steps above the LotSoft FreeWheeler.

                  But in this case, it is far from being free.

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                    Question, is the profit $504.00 after you remove the $396.00 it cost to buy the tickets or is your actual profit $108.00? I don't know what the payout for a streight win is in Florida. Is the pay out $900.00 for a streight win. In Ontario it varies between $350.00 & $700.00 and my back testing over 20 games gave 10 wins & 10 losses for a loss of $2745.20 after removal of the $396.00 to purchase the tickets.  I I'm trying to filter the tickets to 100 - 200 tickets and keep the same 50% hit factor then I could make this system profitable but soon as I start filtering the % wins goes down to far for a profitable win.

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                      Is there anyway to apply this to the pick 4 ?

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                        I am going to try playing around with this in NC. If you stopped when you were not hitting till it started hitting again couldn't you cut your losses even more therefore increase your overall profit ? Like say after so many non hits you stop playing & watch it. Opinions would this not help ?

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                          Question, is the profit $504.00 after you remove the $396.00 it cost to buy the tickets or is your actual profit $108.00? I don't know what the payout for a streight win is in Florida. Is the pay out $900.00 for a streight win. In Ontario it varies between $350.00 & $700.00 and my back testing over 20 games gave 10 wins & 10 losses for a loss of $2745.20 after removal of the $396.00 to purchase the tickets.  I I'm trying to filter the tickets to 100 - 200 tickets and keep the same 50% hit factor then I could make this system profitable but soon as I start filtering the % wins goes down to far for a profitable win.

                          Yes - the profit is $504 when you win $900 in online play.

                          You really have to watch your game as Paurth said earlier. You are correct as you would have to filter more numbers out for offline play in order to hit a profit. 

                          If you played online you would have made $1,080 profit for the same time period.

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                            Is there anyway to apply this to the pick 4 ?

                            I would imagine you could. I don't know as I have not played with the pick 4 yet.

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                              I am going to try playing around with this in NC. If you stopped when you were not hitting till it started hitting again couldn't you cut your losses even more therefore increase your overall profit ? Like say after so many non hits you stop playing & watch it. Opinions would this not help ?

                              Probably. When I first started the testing with the $1,500 stake, I lost several times early and nearly lost my seed money.

                              I know that if you are winning more than 50% of the time with online play you will turn a profit.