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Posted: November 1, 2009, 3:43 pm - IP Logged

What Tracks do you play? I am just curious.  Maybe we can pick some winners.

Sorry, marcie missed your post. 

I haven't been to the track in at least 5 yrs.   I played almost exclusively harness racing.   My method of play was highly mathematical and computerized.  Kind of the opposite of the way you pick them.

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    Posted: November 1, 2009, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

    eddes..Thanks for the info..I'll have to study on that one..Not many are replying but people are reading your post..Thanks again..

    I will come back to this information that Eddie made and print it.

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    Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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      marcie..I love a woman who loves to gamble..My sister who lives out in AZ loves to play the slots and go to Vegas sometimes..I wish you nothing but good luck..Always remember in gambling it's better to be lucky then good..Good luck..

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        marcie..I love a woman who loves to gamble..My sister who lives out in AZ loves to play the slots and go to Vegas sometimes..I wish you nothing but good luck..Always remember in gambling it's better to be lucky then good..Good luck..

        You got that right!!! Because you do have to be lucky!   I have had luck a lot of times, but sometimes you have to use you head too, in  figuring out a number for Horses or Numbers  and you do have to have a system.   Systems or Luck! Good Luck to you too!

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        Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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          Posted: November 4, 2009, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

          Hey triggs, marcie, true critic, Cyper, et al-

          We are just back from NYC.

          I have recieved a several  emails & PMs while away inquiring more racing plans- instead of answering individually, plan to share a unusual mechanical pic procedure as a new topic in this forum for everybody's consideration.

          The unique concept is not the holy grail & not for sale but is a no brainer without handicapping that yirlds uncanny results and very easy to back test without risking a bet.

          Aye Marcie, its written in ancient Chinese proverbs that a lucky life is better then a good life!

          So stay tuned, more to come.....

          Peace, Prosperirtty & Fun Wishes,

          EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

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            Posted: November 4, 2009, 5:07 pm - IP Logged

            Thanks eddes we will be watching for further help..Good luck..

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              Posted: November 4, 2009, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

              Hey triggs, marcie, true critic, Cyper, et al-

              We are just back from NYC.

              I have recieved a several  emails & PMs while away inquiring more racing plans- instead of answering individually, plan to share a unusual mechanical pic procedure as a new topic in this forum for everybody's consideration.

              The unique concept is not the holy grail & not for sale but is a no brainer without handicapping that yirlds uncanny results and very easy to back test without risking a bet.

              Aye Marcie, its written in ancient Chinese proverbs that a lucky life is better then a good life!

              So stay tuned, more to come.....

              Peace, Prosperirtty & Fun Wishes,

              EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

              LOL! I hear ya! I am waiting for more information, from the both of you. You and Cyper.    Santa Anita will only be here for a short time, I think they have the Breeder cup this weekend! I am looking forward to those races.

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              Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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                Posted: November 6, 2009, 4:02 pm - IP Logged

                LOL! I hear ya! I am waiting for more information, from the both of you. You and Cyper.    Santa Anita will only be here for a short time, I think they have the Breeder cup this weekend! I am looking forward to those races.

                Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!
                The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!
                When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.  Let’s examine some “moves”.
                A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.
                The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  
                The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!
                Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.
                B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  
                The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!

                The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!   When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.

                Let’s examine some “moves”.

                A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.

                B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                "Quite often, more is less!"

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                  Posted: November 6, 2009, 4:27 pm - IP Logged

                  Welcome Back Cypher,

                  I for one appreciate the time and effort put into the revealing Part 1of the 101 handicapping seminar.

                  You are indeed well versed, well rehearsed, and deeply immersed in the Sport of Kings of knowledge Wink

                   

                  Best of best for continued success

                  EddessaKnight Sun Smiley

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                    I've been gambling playing horses dogs and lottery since 1962 and am still learning new stuff everyday.."Punter" is a new one to me..Kep'em coming..

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                      Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                      Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!
                      The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!
                      When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.  Let’s examine some “moves”.
                      A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.
                      The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  
                      The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!
                      Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.
                      B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  
                      The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                      Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                      Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!

                      The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!   When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.

                      Let’s examine some “moves”.

                      A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.

                      B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                      What do you like for Saturaday? at Santa Anita, I was hoping they you would post some winners here. I hope you come back before I go ot to the Breeders Cup, I do trust your Judement. Thank you in advance!

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                      Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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                        What do you like for Saturaday? at Santa Anita, I was hoping they you would post some winners here. I hope you come back before I go ot to the Breeders Cup, I do trust your Judement. Thank you in advance!

                        Punder? I have to look that one up, But I think you mean, see whos betting what in the Clubhouse and just keep eyes and hears Open?  I have did that too, Once I went to the track and these two Guys were coming it to the Track, to play a big Race Keenland as I recall, they both had a bank roll on them coming into the Track, I knew they were on to something, I was right behind them, I heard one Guy telling the other guy what are you going to bet. So I ask both of them, I see you all are going to bet good, Who's the winner? they told me and I cleaned up, I must of left the track with over $500.00 I could of put more money on the Horses, but I just followed my first mind.

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                        Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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                          SMART Marcie..Good luck today..Heading out..

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                            SMART Marcie..Good luck today..Heading out..

                            Thanks I feel lucky, Don't know what to play but, I will keep my eyes and hears open!  I will wait till about 3:00pm, to go, in Ca. it will be 12:pm. So I will be there when they start. Good Luck to you!!

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                            Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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                              Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                              Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!
                              The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!
                              When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.  Let’s examine some “moves”.
                              A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.
                              The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  
                              The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!
                              Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.
                              B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  
                              The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                              Handicapping 101 (Part 1)
                              Horse Racing…The Sport of Kings!

                              The “punter” learns to pick their spots in a racing card based on the data they have devoured!   When goes to the races one will quickly observe in the clubhouse or grandstands “punters” pouring over the racing program.  What are they looking for?  With keen eyes they are looking for information hidden in plain sight which may point them towards a profitable play (wager) of the day or within a race.  They are looking for owner and trainer moves which indicate that the horse being entered has a very good shot at winning the race.

                              Let’s examine some “moves”.

                              A. Switching Surfaces:  Often called Turf to Dirt or Dirt to Turf.  Turf =Grass!  Grass is a softer surface than the dirt surfaces of many tracks and is kinder to the horse due to the softness of it’s surface and grass also serves to strengthen the horse.  If a horse has been racing on turf and is switched to dirt against competition that has been slaving away on the dirt that horse may have the advantage over the competitors.The same applies when a horse has been running on dirt and has now been switched to turf as turf may have been the comfort zone of the horse and the stats will reveal what surfaces the horse has run on and may have a preference for.  The owner and trainer have conditioned the horse for the race and they anticipate the horse to enter at better odds as the recent performance may have been off in live race training on a different surface than accustomed to and the result can be a handsome payday for the barn!Note: if one examines the horse having run over surfaces at least three times it will indicate if the horse likes the surface or not based on performance.

                              B. Horses for Courses:  Oddly many horses prefer certain racetracks!  They perform at optimum levels at certain tracks and poorly at others.  Why?  Various reasons… there may be a muse involved at the preferred track or it could be the surface.  Just as humans have preferences for certain areas so do horses for whatever reason.  The alert “punter” watches for the return of a horse back to it’s favorite track.  The performance at other tracks may have been poor but now the horse is returning back to a track that it likes and runs well at.

                              Handicapping 101 (Part 2)

                              C. Work Outs:  Be mindful of the work outs that a horse engages in relating to speed and distance...especially recent ones.  If there is a bullet by the workout it indicates that it was one of the faster work outs of the day.  Also, take note if the work out indicates "handily or breezing".  Handily means the jockey had to coerce the horse to run and breezing means that the horse ran under it's own volition with little or no input from the jock.  First time starters should have at least 12 workouts.  Be extra alert for the "bullet" indicating a fast workout for a horse that has never showed a history of fast workouts.


                              D. Switching Distances:  Do not confuse changing distance with switching distance.  Changing distance examples are a horse ran six furlongs the last start and today it is entered into a route race or vice versa.  Switching distance would be indicated by the next to last race having been a sprint and the last race was a route and today the horse has been entered into a sprint race...this move can also be in reverse.  The purpose of the switch is to increase the stamina of the horse especially in a sprint-route-sprint angle...in the route-sprint-route scenario the angle is to sharpen the speed of the router.  Look for horses in this combination angle coming back to race within 14 days.  If the return to race is longer than 14 days check that the horse has had recent work outs to keep them sharp.

                              "Quite often, more is less!"