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If you were the decision maker of the Salvation Army, would you accept a 10 million dollar donation?

Yes [ 34 ]  [79.07%]
No [ 6 ]  [13.95%]
Maybe [ 3 ]  [6.98%]
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Posted: November 26, 2009, 2:59 am - IP Logged

"They are an Evangelical Christian group."

That's it in a nutshell. I think most people are familair with their thrift stores and simply think of them as a run of the mill charity, without considering that the name wasn't chosen at random. Since they're opposed to gambling it would clearly be hypocritical to accept a donation of gambling proceeds. By accepting the monet they would essentially be approving the activities that resulted in acquiring the money.

I'd guess that it's fairly easy to turn down the money, even if they have mixed feelings about the good that could be done with it. The vast majority of money that is refused will almost certainly be donated to another charity that is willing to accept it.

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    Posted: November 27, 2009, 10:11 am - IP Logged

    If you don't agree with the Gambling Policy of the Salvation Army, then do something about it: Take some action: Become a Barrier Braker and change their Gambling Policies!

    Raveb62,

    Well, I'm not an activist for one thing, for another, I know that in these kind of situations you're not going to change beaurecrats minds.

    When I worked in casinos one of the river boats tried to give the food the restaurant didn't use everyday to a church -run food pantry. The food was still good but the restaurant couldn;t keep it to sell.

    The churches that ran the food pantry told the casino, "No thanks, not coming from you guys."

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: November 27, 2009, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

      Raveb62,

      Well, I'm not an activist for one thing, for another, I know that in these kind of situations you're not going to change beaurecrats minds.

      When I worked in casinos one of the river boats tried to give the food the restaurant didn't use everyday to a church -run food pantry. The food was still good but the restaurant couldn;t keep it to sell.

      The churches that ran the food pantry told the casino, "No thanks, not coming from you guys."

      What?

      A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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        Posted: December 2, 2009, 1:32 am - IP Logged

        "Money is not the root of all evil, the lack of it is." Gene Simmons.

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          Posted: December 2, 2009, 1:51 pm - IP Logged

          Dumb move by the SA. They could've done a lot of good and helped a lot of people with that money. How do they know that a lot of the money thrown in their kettles doesn't come from gamblers? To remain so holier-than-thou maybe they should require everyone who donates to sign a form swearing that their donation didn't come from gambling proceeds or shady business deals or robbing convenience stores. What a ridiculous decision that was.


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

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            Posted: December 2, 2009, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

            Yeah if you are honest about where it comes from they do not want it, but if you lie then it is accepted.

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              Posted: December 2, 2009, 5:00 pm - IP Logged

              They said NO: Because they Talk-the-Talk and they Walk-the-Walk:

              The Salvation Army takes a stand against gambling that involves the act of risking money, property or something of value on an activity that gives material advantage based on chance and at the expense of others. The Salvation Army opposes gambling on spiritual and moral grounds and because of its tragic social implications.

              The Salvation Army is deeply concerned that gambling, used by governments and organizations to raise revenues, has become an accepted aspect of our daily lives. Gambling undermines the true spirit of charitable giving. The Salvation Army's experience confirms that there are those who disregard personal and family needs to indulge in gambling and may become addicted. Even in its simplest form gambling can lead to excess and undermine the personality and character of the individual. The Salvation Army therefore cautions governments and individuals of the inherent dangers of gambling.

              Salvation Army soldiers pledge to abstain from gambling, based on our belief that all our resources belong to God and that we depend on Him through faith and work. This position is supported by Scriptural teachings (Timothy 6:3-10; 17-19,  Thessalonians 3:6-13, Amos 6:1-6) concerning the responsibility to use money productively, to guard against greed, and not to gain at the expense of others.

              That's very interesting!  I wonder if a church or religious school would feel the same way.  I have always wanted to donate money to my daughter's Catholic school and my alma matter (Catholic)

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                Posted: December 2, 2009, 8:15 pm - IP Logged

                That's very interesting!  I wonder if a church or religious school would feel the same way.  I have always wanted to donate money to my daughter's Catholic school and my alma matter (Catholic)

                I can say there would be no problem about it at all gonnawinwatchme. You know why? Most Catholic Church's have bingo 2 nights a week every week! How do you like that for advocating gambling!

                Keep dreaming the impossible dream, it just may come true! Thumbs Up

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                  Posted: December 2, 2009, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

                  TypeSome people are ignorable with their righteous ethical attitudes.  They are the worst kind of sinners that hurt people and say it's right when all they need to do is love.

                  takeemtothebank

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                    Posted: December 3, 2009, 1:20 am - IP Logged

                    I think that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. Given from the heart...I don't see the problem. It's not like I'm trying to buy my way into heaven......just get a tax break from Ceasar.....whom I would have already rendered his due before my check was cut.Blue Thinking

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