United States Member #81843 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline

Posted: June 15, 2010, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

VTracs Mirror Combinations Are the combinations made from the 125 Vtrac numbers. All 125 Vtracs represent the 1000 combinations in a Pick 3 game.

If you want to know what combinations are from a particular Vtrac, looking at the ‘Mirrors ‘ will show you. The work is done for you and it is a feature of the LP site. To see it, go to the top of the page and on the blue drop-down menu: SYSTEMS, VTracs Mirror Combinations.

I used to call it working Vtracs backward but mirror is a good way to describe it.

If you think a particular Vtrac is due, just look at the mirror combinations for the sets to play. I look at all vtracs as being boxed (V123=V132=V213=V231=V312=V321) and therefore reduce the 125 vtracs down to just 35. When I use the mirror, I can explore what digits might hit next by the vtrac number. Then I can look at the likely hood of those sets to play. Some vtrac mirror sets are eight in number, and if I remember correctly some are only four in count from the boxed perspective (my 35 Vtracs). Then the boxed sets from the mirror (sets to play) has to be ordered for a ST8 or played as box.

United States Member #81843 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline

Posted: June 16, 2010, 11:46 pm - IP Logged

Vtracs are used to classify hits and are frequently used for pick 3 games. There are many different systems and methods to classify digits and sets of digits (e.g. 562 is drawn and is the set. The digits of the set are 5, 6, 2).

So among the many ways people have developed to classify the history of draws, Vtracs is just one way.

The strength of using Vtracs is in simplification. Instead of 1,000 combinations in P3, you have 125 Vtracs that represent all those combinations, in the order of the drawn digits (strait). Now what is interesting is if we look closer at the 125 Vtracs, we can see the same sets in different order in some of the 125 Vtrac mirrors. Example: Vtracs followed by the mirror set for that Vtrac:

V123 = 012 017 062 067 512 517 562 567

V132 = 021 026 071 076 521 526 571 576

V213 = 102 107 152 157 602 607 652 657

V231 = 120 125 170 175 620 625 670 675

V312 = 201 206 251 256 701 706 751 756

V321 = 210 215 260 265 710 715 760 765

See that v123 and V132 have the same mirror digits in sets? The order of the set is the only difference along with set placement in the mirror. If we look at all the mirror sets as being boxed, then V123 is the only Vtrac we need to track 48 combinations. If you decide a Boxed Vtrac is due and you want to play it, then all you need are the fundamental 8 mirror sets of that Boxed Vtrac. This classification of Vtracs into Boxed Vtracs simplifies 125 Vtracs down to just 35! Here is the Boxed Vtrac from the above:

VB 123 = 012 017 062 067 512 517 562 567

You still need to look at all the 125 strait Vtracs and their individual mirrors at times when it comes to ordering the digits for a strait play. By tracking the 35 simplified boxed Vtracs, you might be able to narrow down what Vtrac will hit next. Your chance to be correct is 1:35. If you are correct in selecting the next Boxed Vtrac, your odds of selecting the right Boxed mirror set is 1:8 (or better- another post). If you have correctly selected the right Boxed mirror set from the boxed Vtrac, then your odds are 1:6 (or better) to get the set ordered right. Determining the order of a boxed Vtrac is another part of the fun. That is when you will reference the Vtrac Mirror combinations list. You will need it!

Vtrac Travelers: Some look at other State’s results in similar games like P3 for a correlation of a Vtrac that hits in one State and then in another a following day. That is a whole different way to track and classify hits and is a study in its own. There are members who are very successful at narrowing down and predicting expected Vtracs, even for all States! Their Vtracs lists produce consistent winning results. By simplifying 125 Vtracs to just 35 Boxed Vtracs, your odds are just 1:35 to be correct in your Vtrac selection.

That’s the chart for sure. Nice work. I guess I was away when that thread went by. I Am honored to have that link in this thread and those following along can see clearly the boxed Vtracs I have been raven about! I will have to spend some time in that thread. I wanted to tell everyone today how to reduce the 35 Boxed Vtracs down to 34:

Forget yesterdays Boxed Vtrac in today’s selection of Boxed Vtracs!

Do you have any stats on Boxed Vtrac repeats? Sure would like to see them.

Anybody following along read that I said you might do better than a 1:8 chance from a Boxed Vtrac mirror set. You might have 1:6.

Want better than that?

Sure!

You could have 1:4. That’s 1 in 4 odds of selecting the correct Boxed mirror. A picture tells so much more so go to the link posted by Raven62 and look at his chart. You will see the 35 Boxed Vtracs in ascending order:

*There are 10 Boxed Vtracs that have 8 boxed mirrors.

*There are 20 Boxed Vtracs that have 6 boxed mirrors.

*There are 5 Boxed Vtracs that have 4 boxed mirrors.

United States Member #81843 October 31, 2009 856 Posts Offline

Posted: June 19, 2010, 5:54 am - IP Logged

*There are 10 Boxed Vtracs that have 8 boxed mirrors. (80)

*There are 20 Boxed Vtracs that have 6 boxed mirrors. (120)

*There are 5 Boxed Vtracs that have 4 boxed mirrors. (20)

A closer look at the above gives the 220 boxed combinations mentioned in threads and blogs. The 220 Combinations have been studied so the 35 Boxed Vtracs fits with that study but in a different way. How different? By the way they can be classified as 220 boxed combinations. You need a good grasp of the picture of the 220 C’s from different perspectives. To what degree you want to study further is up to you.

I like quarter-ruled graph paper for hands-on home-brewed systems work. Not all software will do what you can do in a short amount of time with a pencil and a big eraser. Later with spreadsheets and software, the mundane can be automated once you know what it is you want done. The graph paper keeps things kind of orderly so you can see spatial correlations. Good ones are special correlations and not everything needs to be studied to the Nth degree.

I think it is safe to say that people who try a systems approach put some time in exploring a new or existing system before they retire it or hybridize it. Much of the resources here at LP are the result of new thinking and this forum has its roots to fill a need on systems exploration. The 220 C’s are not new, Vtracs are not new and the 35 boxed Vtracs were only the result of “all things being equal with a different perspective”. More to follow soon.

Sums types % Boxed Vtrac ( the 35) from LP’s P3 wheel, the Deflator and the Inspector.

3

1

0.8%

111

4

1

0.8%

112

5

2

1.6%

113 122

6

3

2.4%

114 123 222

7

4

3.2%

115 124 133 223

8

4

3.2%

125 134 224 233

9

5

4.0%

135 144 225 234 333

10

4

3.2%

145 235 244 334

11

4

3.2%

155 245 335 344

12

3

2.4%

255 345 444

13

2

1.6%

355 445

14

1

0.8%

455

15

1

0.8%

555

What you’re looking at are the basic 35 Boxed Vtracs that each represent boxed combinations in their mirrors. The total of combinations that the 35 boxed Vtracs represent are 220 in number. Those boxed 220 combinations can make any set from 000 to 999. The statistical information above looks like what is called the Natural or Bell curve. See where V123 is? The sum of the digits is 6 (v1+v2+v3). There are three Boxed Vtracs that have the sum of 6. So here is one way to track the Boxed Vtracs and that is by the frequency of the occurrence of the Sums in history. The frequency of the occurance of Boxed Vtracs is another. The order of the Boxed Vtrac is another. Look here> http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/118727 looks like the 35 are not my idea either. Here is more about the 220 C's: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/160315

A popular idea is to use several different systems or methods to arrive at the same conclusion. What would be nice is to have two or more workouts agree, as if meeting at the same point or intersecting. Both mutually inclusive of the same set and mutually exclusive of others...as if to say,.....................

Here is the companion chart for the 35 Boxed Vtracs where you can watch the occurrences of hits of the 125 Strait Vtracs. What we want to get to is the next Vtrac that will hit. This chart can be easily duplicated into a spreadsheet where you can use color to indicate a hit. If you make a legend of different colors, you can indicate the frequency of hits by changing colors when needed. This chart was also made with the LP inspector and there is more information about the sets not displayed here.

Remember, each Vtrac can be represented by mirrors. In this case, the 125 Strait Vtracs each have their own Strait mirror combinations.

If you selected a Vtrac for play and it was a Strait Vtrac (you are certain of the order), then you would only need the strait mirrors for that Vtrac. There are 8 strait mirrors (sets) for each strait Vtrac: 125 x 8 =1,000 combinations. Your chances of selecting one right mirror set is 1:8. You would play these mirrors strait as the Vtrac is strait (you are certain of the Vtrac order).

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Posted: June 23, 2010, 2:33 am - IP Logged

Incorporating the information of raven62’s chart, and the punch line:

Superimposing the information of Raven’s chart in some way on the 35 Boxed Vtracs would be desirable. Why? It would be nice to look at the 35 Boxed Vtracs at a glance to see which Boxed Vtracs have 8,6 or 4 boxed mirrors. Why? For another way to log and observe events:

*There are 10 Boxed Vtracs that have 8 boxed mirrors.

*There are 20 Boxed Vtracs that have 6 boxed mirrors.

*There are 5 Boxed Vtracs that have 4 boxed mirrors.

What you could do is use a different font for the 5 and 10 groups of boxed Vtracs in your spreadsheet. Make a legend off to the side so you can remember why the fonts are different. If you color the cells to record hits, it will not affect the way your encoding font works for you. More stuff to kill time with.

Now that you are thoroughly bored or interested in the topic (suckers),if you want to continue finding where a Boxed Vtrac intersects another from the 220 group, you will have to change your thinking a little. Look no further than the Neighbors (search is your friend at LP, use it! ). This whole system takes many hours and days and weeks of study and training. There is a point where Neighbors meet Vtracs. There are mirror sets that are mutually inclusive and mutually exclusive (but don’t let my number-set tricks fool you). Do a minus one on each of the last Vtrac and Neighbor in the order it was drawn until you return to the set you started with. Observe the next drawing for results and outline them on the previous results on the graph paper: Vtracs and Neighbors. What do you see? Not much to explore and a dead end, but it’s fun!

There are 48 mirror combinations to Boxed Vtrac 123. Like a deck of cards, the aces are missing. Four aces is a good hand and hard to beat. I call this the Four Aces system or “ I’ll be your huckleberry” system.

It is a lot of work to use this system and like all systems it has it’s flaws. It has better hind sight than forward decision making help. This system is very complicated and takes much time to learn and apply. It may be worth your time or just another waste of it. It is nothing more than another way to look at drawing results. To select the right Vtrac or Boxed Vtrac, or for that matter the right neighbor or boxed neighbor is still difficult. It is just a coincidence that Neighbors and Vtracs have a set in common: they are just another way to look at the 220 combinations. Which set becomes the next draw is the question and this is likely just a fancy parlor trick with no real value. The odds of pick 3 are still 1:1,000 and don’t let my odds fool you that picking the right set is a walk in the park. It’s just a parlor trick with numbers! One digit of error in a neighbor or vtrac and you lose. Two digits of error and you lose. Three,… well you get the picture. This system is really a sophisticated time killer and a costly experiment.

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Posted: June 25, 2010, 2:41 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Delta Draw on June 18, 2010

WOW! Thanks Raven62!

That’s the chart for sure. Nice work. I guess I was away when that thread went by. I Am honored to have that link in this thread and those following along can see clearly the boxed Vtracs I have been raven about! I will have to spend some time in that thread. I wanted to tell everyone today how to reduce the 35 Boxed Vtracs down to 34:

Forget yesterdays Boxed Vtrac in today’s selection of Boxed Vtracs!

Do you have any stats on Boxed Vtrac repeats? Sure would like to see them.

Anybody following along read that I said you might do better than a 1:8 chance from a Boxed Vtrac mirror set. You might have 1:6.

Want better than that?

Sure!

You could have 1:4. That’s 1 in 4 odds of selecting the correct Boxed mirror. A picture tells so much more so go to the link posted by Raven62 and look at his chart. You will see the 35 Boxed Vtracs in ascending order:

*There are 10 Boxed Vtracs that have 8 boxed mirrors.

*There are 20 Boxed Vtracs that have 6 boxed mirrors.

*There are 5 Boxed Vtracs that have 4 boxed mirrors.