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Posted: June 20, 2010, 1:49 am - IP Logged

Any way can win and any way can lose. My advice is to find ONE WAY to play and just stick to it. There will never be a way  NOT TO LOSE in the lottery...even in the smaller games. You can increase consistency (efficiency) but, in the event of a loss, it will cost you. In the end, it's simply a matter of preference. Lose smaller amounts of money over a longer period of time, or, a larger amount every now and then.

There are only (2) options available when one really understands numbers.

 

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    The only thing I'm overloaded with is losing tickets!

    "...a chance to push everything aside, the circumstances that've controlled our lives, and do it our way now. Good, bad or otherwise. You'll maybe get lost in it, tied up in it a little bit, but if you work your way through that the real you shows up, I think. Maybe what's at your core deep down, maybe that comes out. Maybe that's what it's about." Mike Pace 

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      overload will happen with continous losses, all it takes is one win and overload immediately disappears:)

      edge

      If I won right now I don't think it would matter. I play on paper most of the time anyway,  I purchased

      tickets maybe 2 or 3 times in last 2 or 3 months and won a little at that.  I just can't seem to focus

      on anything where I have to make a choice.  I love crunching the nums and have been getting some

      good results but soon as it gets down to the wire and I need to make a choice I get super tired, and

      feel I need a nap or something.  I can go back to the number crunching or programming and be fine.

      Maybe it's just somthing inside telling me not to play. I don't know.

      RL

      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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        edge

        If I won right now I don't think it would matter. I play on paper most of the time anyway,  I purchased

        tickets maybe 2 or 3 times in last 2 or 3 months and won a little at that.  I just can't seem to focus

        on anything where I have to make a choice.  I love crunching the nums and have been getting some

        good results but soon as it gets down to the wire and I need to make a choice I get super tired, and

        feel I need a nap or something.  I can go back to the number crunching or programming and be fine.

        Maybe it's just somthing inside telling me not to play. I don't know.

        RL

        RL, Then go with it! Don't play...see how you feel then!

        forget what "they" say about youWhat you say about you?...

        Now, does it count??

         

         

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          edge

          If I won right now I don't think it would matter. I play on paper most of the time anyway,  I purchased

          tickets maybe 2 or 3 times in last 2 or 3 months and won a little at that.  I just can't seem to focus

          on anything where I have to make a choice.  I love crunching the nums and have been getting some

          good results but soon as it gets down to the wire and I need to make a choice I get super tired, and

          feel I need a nap or something.  I can go back to the number crunching or programming and be fine.

          Maybe it's just somthing inside telling me not to play. I don't know.

          RL

          I see.. I see where you coming from, the overload is coming from "doubt" in that deep inside you know how improbable modeling of lottery solution by pattern matching is, and so your subconscious is making decision when is time, it does not help that one contemplates to spend game money by buying something for the house etc instead, so totally with you, so thats opposite from compulsion 

          It looks to me you enjoy puzzle solving and programming, which is great, lottery is not a puzzle to be solved, it is a fully stochastic system, you can not paint it with pretty colors of statistics, all successes derived from model building are purely accidental, it is this exact thought that causes you to step back both mentally and physically (falling to sleep) totally normal!

          ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

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            I see.. I see where you coming from, the overload is coming from "doubt" in that deep inside you know how improbable modeling of lottery solution by pattern matching is, and so your subconscious is making decision when is time, it does not help that one contemplates to spend game money by buying something for the house etc instead, so totally with you, so thats opposite from compulsion 

            It looks to me you enjoy puzzle solving and programming, which is great, lottery is not a puzzle to be solved, it is a fully stochastic system, you can not paint it with pretty colors of statistics, all successes derived from model building are purely accidental, it is this exact thought that causes you to step back both mentally and physically (falling to sleep) totally normal!

            edge

            Many thanks, "That's it".   I know this, I just needed someone to jog my system.  I totaly agree with your

            anaylsis of my dilemma.  I love the chase, the odds are just a challenge to take on.  I always tell people to

            aim much higher than where they want to hit.  The logical side of me has taken over and faith has been

            pushed aside.  Faith is what allows us to continue when reason says stop...  We need both to function

            properly.  I also agree that all the calculations we can make mean very little.   We arm ourselves with

            many stats  before making the attack as it allows us to play a little smarter and gives us a sense of victory

            when we win.  Understanding one's own self is often hard enough and is made even harder when

            something is amiss.

             

            Again,  Many thanks.....

            RL

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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              edge

              Many thanks, "That's it".   I know this, I just needed someone to jog my system.  I totaly agree with your

              anaylsis of my dilemma.  I love the chase, the odds are just a challenge to take on.  I always tell people to

              aim much higher than where they want to hit.  The logical side of me has taken over and faith has been

              pushed aside.  Faith is what allows us to continue when reason says stop...  We need both to function

              properly.  I also agree that all the calculations we can make mean very little.   We arm ourselves with

              many stats  before making the attack as it allows us to play a little smarter and gives us a sense of victory

              when we win.  Understanding one's own self is often hard enough and is made even harder when

              something is amiss.

               

              Again,  Many thanks.....

              RL

              not a problem:) we are all building castles on the sand. one thing i was thinking of, and you are very good at logic and statistics (can tell) you can attempt to "lift" the problem and apply towards anything that could offer even a smallest degree of bias (taking out casinos unfortunately as bias is shifted in the direction of the house:)

              It seems all games/systems are now crafted with rules against even minute possibility for advantage , so I am not saying I have solution to find such a venue, especially that large (in range of 50 to 100K) seed money required to even have "serious chance" (such a venue is in my opinion commodity trading, but there you will compete with investment houses that have clusters of supercomputers running model software with thousands of degrees of freedom (from geo-thermal variables to political stability around the globe) so they have software that constantly looks for bias upon which trades are made day to day basis...

              so its all very tough. but I like you, you are a very good guy.

              ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

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                Thank you. I feel the same about you.

                Most of my ideas come from asking "what would I do if I was running the lottery" as with the casinos

                they must always be on the lookout.  I wish I had their data and knew what they know.  Few people

                I think ever consider this.   For every set they release they get millions back.   Think about it.

                 

                RL

                Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                  Thank you. I feel the same about you.

                  Most of my ideas come from asking "what would I do if I was running the lottery" as with the casinos

                  they must always be on the lookout.  I wish I had their data and knew what they know.  Few people

                  I think ever consider this.   For every set they release they get millions back.   Think about it.

                   

                  RL

                  good point, actually (and thats just my opinion) lottery game construction is purely based on probability, it is in their best interest to have randomizer statistically tested, it would be interesting to find when and how such tests are performed though:)

                  slightly diverging from main topic of this thread, but nevertheless I used following resource to run some sample lottery data thru, to all degree tests are all in the norm 

                  http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/statistical_testing/stattest.html

                  and casinos? yes, absolutely if you would know how they perform randomness tests (and adjust!, because adjust they must in order to construct the game in such a way that is attractive enough and gives "impression" of being "attractive" so you don't have mass exodus from Las Vegas...:)

                  Once you identify "weak" attraction or points of these "adjustments" thats automatic bias:) in lottery hmmm, it is more perfectly constructed probabilistic machine, that unless floor tilts under the machine or some major solar flare...Chi Square test ran week ago will be the same as Today:)

                  ab actu ad posse valet illatio - from the past one can infer the future

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                    good point, actually (and thats just my opinion) lottery game construction is purely based on probability, it is in their best interest to have randomizer statistically tested, it would be interesting to find when and how such tests are performed though:)

                    slightly diverging from main topic of this thread, but nevertheless I used following resource to run some sample lottery data thru, to all degree tests are all in the norm 

                    http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/statistical_testing/stattest.html

                    and casinos? yes, absolutely if you would know how they perform randomness tests (and adjust!, because adjust they must in order to construct the game in such a way that is attractive enough and gives "impression" of being "attractive" so you don't have mass exodus from Las Vegas...:)

                    Once you identify "weak" attraction or points of these "adjustments" thats automatic bias:) in lottery hmmm, it is more perfectly constructed probabilistic machine, that unless floor tilts under the machine or some major solar flare...Chi Square test ran week ago will be the same as Today:)

                    edge

                    its the hmmm, i am talking about

                    RL

                    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                      edge

                      its the hmmm, i am talking about

                      RL

                      edge

                      The RNG's not the ball dropers.

                      RL

                      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                      USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                        US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                        I frequently find myself overloaded. You have to develop a good rapport with your bartender, that's job one.

                        Truth be told though, I Clog much better when I'm loaded. Most people around here will dispute that but they're all nuts. When I'm loaded and commence to Cloggin, I'm like a blur on the dadgum dance floor. That's what I figger anyway cuz everything I look at is a blur, so I must me movin' really fast.

                        I never get overloaded on lottery numbers though cuz I always play the same numbers and a few QP's.


                                                                     
                                             
                                                                 

                         

                         

                         

                         

                                                                                                                           

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                          I frequently find myself overloaded. You have to develop a good rapport with your bartender, that's job one.

                          Truth be told though, I Clog much better when I'm loaded. Most people around here will dispute that but they're all nuts. When I'm loaded and commence to Cloggin, I'm like a blur on the dadgum dance floor. That's what I figger anyway cuz everything I look at is a blur, so I must me movin' really fast.

                          I never get overloaded on lottery numbers though cuz I always play the same numbers and a few QP's.

                          ridge runner

                          My bartender, she says I've had enough and fred ain't got nut'en on this kid. Knocked a few tables

                          over myself but I still say someone musta pushed me. 

                          RL

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                          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                            With todays lure of winning big money most of us do every thing we can to help us play a better game.

                            I often become so overwhelmed with all the satatistics and data that I seem to not be able to make any

                            kind of a decision at all.   Does this kind of thing ever happen to you and if so what do you do to get over

                            it?  It's almost like a mental block or breakdown of my cognitive reasoning.   Maybe I just need to rest my

                            mind.  I am a bit manic as often I cannot stop my mind from processing some idea and often wake up in

                            the middle of the night and grab my calculator and scratch pad and start working on some math problem

                            that may or may not have anything to do with the lottery.

                            RL

                            I have the same thing - sometimes when I get an idea I cannot stop thinking about it. I am usually that way with cartoons more than I am with lottery numbers.

                            Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

                            In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!

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                              For me I noticed that it Is based on where im playing. I have played in 5 different states, NY,CT,VA, SC, & NC. Now only started playing seriously here and to be honest with you here in NC its by far the hardest to pin down for me. You can easily get caught up in what they are going to do as opposed to what you have to do to get a hit ! I would play a random set of numbers in NY & CT AND WOULD HIT ! I was not using any kind of hardcore systems at all but just common rules when it came to the PICK 3. I by far have hit more in VA because its extremely easy to pin down what it is coming . In NC I would spend so much time preparing for a drawing that I would be driving myself crazy from looking and thinking about numbers it was ridiculous. I have since realized that its best to play where you have the edge and where its less nerve racking . Good luck to you !

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