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THRUST's avatar - f35l

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Posted: July 22, 2010, 11:02 pm - IP Logged

Is it one that predicts 1-2/? several draws a week, 3-5/? several draws a week or one that just makes you a profit in the course of a period of time???

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    Posted: July 22, 2010, 11:05 pm - IP Logged

    It doesnt matter. It depends on the amount of numbers you are playing. If you are playing 1 number for a wk you can combo it and it will be a success. As long as there is steady profit the system works.

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      Posted: July 23, 2010, 2:58 am - IP Logged

      Is it one that predicts 1-2/? several draws a week, 3-5/? several draws a week or one that just makes you a profit in the course of a period of time???

      Yes.

      A working system gives you a statistical advantage over house odds. In the duration of play if you average a win(s) more often than what is expected, you have a system. Take a Box bet for P3. Odds are 1:166 for a str8 set. If you win more than once in 166 plays (bets) you beat the odds.

      Same goes for the big games, even if you jackpot only once and beat the odds.

      A working system takes away from the house advantage and puts it in your pocket. They call it cheating when you beat the odds and do not attribute it to luck. Luck seems to have it's defined limits. They are called probable events: chicken dinner.Banana

      DD

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        Posted: July 23, 2010, 4:59 am - IP Logged

        Considering all the systems that seem to dance around the draws without connecting, a system with wins is a nice surprise and provides a great starting point to determine if it might become profitable. 

        A system that breaks even may have possibilities if taken a step further or played online.

        A system that plays at a good profit over time, whoo-hoo!!!

        BobP

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          Posted: July 23, 2010, 12:09 pm - IP Logged

          Since I only play pick5 and jackpot type games, I think of systems in terms of those type games.  For me the time required to do a system work-up is too much for a daily game.

          For me a system that works should increase your odds of winning and be within your budget to play.  It doesn't have to make a profit continuously but it would be nice if it did.

          For example PowerBall has odds of 1:195,249,054 of winning the jackpot and overall odds of 1:35 of winning a prize at all.  If you reduce your overall odds of winning a prize then you reduce your odds of winning every prize.  Reducing you over all odds of a win to 1:20 would be a great start but it wouldn't necessarily make a profit because most likely your prizes would be 0+1 to 2+1 worth $3-$10, but those improved odds should pay off big eventually.

          I personal think a system can work better if it's of your own design because you will understand its strategy and can review its results and make changes that may make it even better.  I couldn't blindly follow a strategy/system I didn't understand and couldn't change when I didn't like the results.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: July 23, 2010, 12:23 pm - IP Logged

              honestly ...in my 20 yrs of playing the numbers ? ....  "HUNCHES" ..( plate numbers, phone numbers, birthyear numbers)  ....when ya ask anyone whos actually won some big money ....just ask em how they got their numbers ....i rest my case ; )

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              Posted: July 23, 2010, 12:33 pm - IP Logged

              Since I only play pick5 and jackpot type games, I think of systems in terms of those type games.  For me the time required to do a system work-up is too much for a daily game.

              For me a system that works should increase your odds of winning and be within your budget to play.  It doesn't have to make a profit continuously but it would be nice if it did.

              For example PowerBall has odds of 1:195,249,054 of winning the jackpot and overall odds of 1:35 of winning a prize at all.  If you reduce your overall odds of winning a prize then you reduce your odds of winning every prize.  Reducing you over all odds of a win to 1:20 would be a great start but it wouldn't necessarily make a profit because most likely your prizes would be 0+1 to 2+1 worth $3-$10, but those improved odds should pay off big eventually.

              I personal think a system can work better if it's of your own design because you will understand its strategy and can review its results and make changes that may make it even better.  I couldn't blindly follow a strategy/system I didn't understand and couldn't change when I didn't like the results.

              I personally think a system can work better if it's of your own design because you will understand its strategy and can review its results and make changes that may make it even better.  I couldn't blindly follow a strategy/system I didn't understand and couldn't change when I didn't like the results.

              "Many Strategies|One Game"

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                Posted: July 23, 2010, 12:34 pm - IP Logged

                  honestly ...in my 20 yrs of playing the numbers ? ....  "HUNCHES" ..( plate numbers, phone numbers, birthyear numbers)  ....when ya ask anyone whos actually won some big money ....just ask em how they got their numbers ....i rest my case ; )

                 honestly ...in my

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                  Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:17 pm - IP Logged

                    honestly ...in my 20 yrs of playing the numbers ? ....  "HUNCHES" ..( plate numbers, phone numbers, birthyear numbers)  ....when ya ask anyone whos actually won some big money ....just ask em how they got their numbers ....i rest my case ; )

                  ....i rest my case ; )

                   

                  What is your case?

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: July 23, 2010, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

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                      Posted: July 24, 2010, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

                      Basic  systems  totally rely on the players ability too interpret the data and make intelligent choices for numbers unless  it's automated like a software program that forecasts numbers  a lottery system  or  strategy is only as good as the users ability too get it too  work by helping  him select good numbers too  play.


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                        Posted: July 24, 2010, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                        Is it one that predicts 1-2/? several draws a week, 3-5/? several draws a week or one that just makes you a profit in the course of a period of time???

                        Systems can hit once in a while or seemingly regularly. I say seemingly because even regular hits can be deceptive. For some reason, people can go into a trance and not realize it's not regular afterall. It sounds trivial, but you'd be surprised on the new discoveries of how the brain really works.

                        I think of a system that is successful, to be a system that creates positive cash flow on a long time scale, like one or two years. I personally don't believe the one or two people out there who know the secret to producing winners, like in p-3, on a regular basis to make a profit, would reveal it. Why would they give their trade secrets away?

                        Anyways.....It has to be consistent. Period!

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                          Posted: July 26, 2010, 11:14 pm - IP Logged

                          I tested so many diffrent systems this past week, and only one (lottolaughs Fore syatem)  (it got quite few pick 4 straights!)seem to make a profit each month...

                          So for me its does the sytem make a profit every month!

                          have a great winning day!

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                            Posted: July 28, 2010, 6:05 pm - IP Logged

                            Yes.

                            A working system gives you a statistical advantage over house odds. In the duration of play if you average a win(s) more often than what is expected, you have a system. Take a Box bet for P3. Odds are 1:166 for a str8 set. If you win more than once in 166 plays (bets) you beat the odds.

                            Same goes for the big games, even if you jackpot only once and beat the odds.

                            A working system takes away from the house advantage and puts it in your pocket. They call it cheating when you beat the odds and do not attribute it to luck. Luck seems to have it's defined limits. They are called probable events: chicken dinner.Banana

                            DD

                            "A working system gives you a statistical advantage over house odds."

                            The house always has the advantage; it's how gambling works. But there are a few pick-3 bets where the payoff odds are pretty close to the odds against. If you played 4 digits each in any two digit positions and played "all" in the third, the odds against winning is 2.25 to 1 and the payoff is 2.125 to 1. Since the odds are based on any 4 random digits in any two positions, it's possible using some type of system to show a profit.

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                              Posted: July 29, 2010, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

                              Yes.

                              A working system gives you a statistical advantage over house odds. In the duration of play if you average a win(s) more often than what is expected, you have a system. Take a Box bet for P3. Odds are 1:166 for a str8 set. If you win more than once in 166 plays (bets) you beat the odds.

                              Same goes for the big games, even if you jackpot only once and beat the odds.

                              A working system takes away from the house advantage and puts it in your pocket. They call it cheating when you beat the odds and do not attribute it to luck. Luck seems to have it's defined limits. They are called probable events: chicken dinner.Banana

                              DD

                              Take a Box bet for P3. Odds are 1:166 for a str8 set.

                              How did you figure those odds?

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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