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How Many Tickets Per Draw Are Necessary To Win?

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How Many Tickets Played Per Draw Are Needed To Win?

1 Ticket [ 43 ]  [48.31%]
5 Tickets [ 10 ]  [11.24%]
6 Tickets [ 6 ]  [6.74%]
24 Tickets [ 11 ]  [12.36%]
42 Tickets [ 5 ]  [5.62%]
100 Tickets [ 4 ]  [4.49%]
163 Tickets [ 1 ]  [1.12%]
Under 500 Tickets [ 5 ]  [5.62%]
Under 1,000 Tickets [ 0 ]  [0.00%]
Over 1,000 Tickets [ 4 ]  [4.49%]
Total Valid Votes [ 89 ]  
Discarded Votes [ 0 ]  
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Posted: September 29, 2010, 4:39 am - IP Logged

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"All things considered:  In my opinion 250 to 500 combinations per draw would be a sweet playing budget to hasten a jackpot."

Well for one thing, anyone who could play that many ticket s per draw probably doesn't need to hit a jackpot and is playing just for grins.At an average of 9 draws a month for MM or PP, and the Megaplier or Powerplay meaning $2 per line, a player would be stuck $9,000 the first month playing 500 combinations per draw, assuming that the most common thing per line of numbers happened....that is the player hits, 0, 1 or 2 numbers, which pays 0, zilch, nada. Granted they may tie a few of those hits in with the Mega number or Powerball, but certainly not enough to ease the pain of being stuck $9,000.

Taking Mega Millions, playing 5000 combinations reduces:

1:175,711,536 to 1:1,175,711,036. Whoopee. So you have 500 combinations for you and 175,711,036 against you. Gee, which side of that do you think you're 500 will wind up on? Powerball makes that worse by 20,000,000 more.

1:195,249,054, minus 500. 1:195,248,554. Again, Whoopee!

For those who don't have pockets that deep playing in such a manner would also be known as economic suicide.

No offesne intended, but I find it ironic and extremely interesting that since the topic here is Pick 6 or 5 + 1, statisitcally it's the QPs that take the 12 to 15 or so jackpots a year 70% of the time. Yet you would advocate playing like that, and that most of the people on this board are so "system-prone" and anti-QP yet they have nothing at all to show proof-wise, and only post conjecture.


The military has its war games, so can we, helps to expand the thinking processes.

At $500. a draw for $52,000. a year, would take twenty years to put away a single million by saving the bet, so maybe some people want to take a crack at winning ten million or more, think of the thread as an intellectual excercise.   Besides, someday we may get to play online with Rupies or other low value currency where 500 tickets can be purchased for 500 pennies.   BobP

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    Posted: September 29, 2010, 8:09 am - IP Logged

    I believe a minimum of 24 lines are needed to accommodate a realistic system of play.

    Although only 1 ticket is needed to win the jackpot, that could happen within the next 20,000 years; but in the mean time I might as well try to win the lower tier prizes.

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      Posted: September 29, 2010, 9:28 am - IP Logged

      and another 3 hits on my 18 liner :( so close

      2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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        " Besides, someday we may get to play online with Rupies or other lowvalue currency where 500 tickets can be purchased for 500 pennies."  BobP

        If you play in Rupies you'll get paid in Rupies, but you're giving me a great idea here for the lottery that pays in Confederate money. Not the real stuff which can be valuable, but the stuff like you get at the souvenier shops at West Point or Gettysburg! 


        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Posted: September 29, 2010, 10:24 am - IP Logged

          This Poll is for your state's big game whether Pick-6 or Pick-5 Plus 1. 

          The question isn't how many ticket you play or can afford.  It is about the minimum number of tickets you feel would be necessary to play per draw in order  to have a good chance to win.  In other words, if you had access to the I wish playing budget necessary to properly work your wheel, system or strategy how many tickets would that take per draw?

          Or, if a lotto pool asked you to make up their combinations in return for a free share, how many combinations  would you say were necessary to take a really good shot at each draw?

          Ticket = Combination = One Play

          BobP

          For the Pick-3...about 24-30 usually.

          In a lotto pool?  I think it would take a lot-o-combinations...

          "Whatever the human mind can conceive and believe it can achieve."

          Napoleon Hill, Author of "Think & Grow Rich"

                                                                                                                                                 

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            Posted: September 30, 2010, 2:07 am - IP Logged

            they could make  the current batch of games 1c entry, by doing dsomething like make it drawnb order so its combinations not permutations.

            they could have a seprate jackpot.  for the penny game, and it may jackpot for 2 or 3 years before being won.  but think of the wheels you could play for a penny a line?

             $1 gets you 100 lines hahaha.

            23 429 886 480 to one i think are the odds for the current 5/59+ 1/39 game if u made it drawn order. 59

            also it ciould forgo the lower tier prizes. so u need something like 3+b to start collecting a prize, or you would lose all that  massive pot potential paying a buck for the 1st  2 numbers.

            well its only way i can see a penny game working. well one that would attract massive jackpots as well as cost a cent.

            2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

            keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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              I think we're all guilty of thinking within the parameters we've set for ourselves making it hard to think outside the bubble.  That's why I like the threads such as what will you do with the jackpot winnings.  There's what we can afford to play, what we'd like to play and what we think would really do the trick.  Gives the brain a good dusting off.  BobP

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                Posted: October 4, 2010, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

                I think the number of tickets to cover the overall odds of winning something is a good starting point.  For a game like Ohio Rolling Cash5 (5/39) with a $1 prize for matching 2/5 would be 9 tickets.  For a game like PowerBall (5/59+1/39) with a $3 prize for matching 0/5+1/39 would be 35.  For a game like Ohio Classic Lotto(6/49) with 13,986,816 possible combinations and a $2 prize for matching 3/6 that would be 54 which explains why I don't play it very often because my budget is a maximum of $20-$25 a draw.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: October 4, 2010, 4:21 pm - IP Logged

                  Well technically only 1 ticket is needed if you want to win a jackpot, but in reality I usually play 5 or so with a small wheel of a few numbers. My states jackpot game Multi Win Lotto; picks numbers for you so your basically guaranteed to lose unless you pick your own numbers.

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                    Posted: October 4, 2010, 5:20 pm - IP Logged

                    One guarantee: If you ain't in, you can't win.

                    One ticket cancels that guarantee.

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                        Posted: October 5, 2010, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

                        I think we need to consider who is asking this question:

                        How Many Tickets Per Draw Are Necessary To Win?

                        A system seller?

                        Someone involved in selling tickets?

                        A casual player?

                        Someone who has already won a jackpot?

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Posted: October 6, 2010, 3:26 am - IP Logged

                          had a flatmate who always banged on about how much he would share his winnings if he ever won.

                          anyhow pball jackpotted to $50 mill here , the largest jackpot in Australia, and i asked if he had a ticket.he said nope.

                          so for  some people even 1 ticket is too much ,

                          2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                          keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                            Posted: October 6, 2010, 6:19 am - IP Logged

                            my 18 lines on the cheap games pulled a 3+b hit about $15

                            Wednesday Lotto
                            Draw #2971 - Wednesday October 6, 2010
                            Winning Numbers (in draw order): 6, 10, 16, 31, 36 , 38
                            Supplementary Numbers: 27, 39

                             

                            not the 6 numbers i was hoping for but keeps the price down. that 8 plays ; the ones other than the syndicate cost $3.45 so made $12 to spend later.

                            2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                            keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                              Cutla$$Bob votes 163 tickets. Reason: Close to my 126 lines.

                              More realistic and is a full 5 of 5 of 9 wheel. I pick the last #.

                              I feel to have a good chance to win it's going to take the full 126 lines, $126.00.

                              Not peso, rubles, euros, (U.S. Dollar Only).

                              Good Luck People.

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