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danyo1332

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Oct 19, 2010, 5:31 pm

Its obvious that its easier to win ball drawings than computer drawinggs..but how does it work?!On tv it looks random when really I dont think it is?!

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
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Oct 19, 2010, 5:39 pm

Its obvious that its easier to win ball drawings than computer drawinggs..

The odds of winning either way are the same so you much see something that others are missing, what is it?

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Oct 19, 2010, 7:46 pm

I thought people didn't like computer draws because they thought they were less transparent and therefore more open to abuse. Whereas a ball based draw you can see what's going on so it's more reassuring. Personally I think both methods are random, and scrutinised and audited sufficiently to ensure they stay that way.
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Oct 19, 2010, 7:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Oct 19, 2010
Its obvious that its easier to win ball drawings than computer drawinggs..

The odds of winning either way are the same so you much see something that others are missing, what is it?

Just look at the vtracs. For ball drawings a double vtrac ex: 332 will usually repeat or come as 223..with computer drawings it doesnt. Also with ball drawings I found numbers that come before a triple hits..doesnt work with computerized drawings.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
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Oct 19, 2010, 8:55 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Mark Haigh on Oct 19, 2010
I thought people didn't like computer draws because they thought they were less transparent and therefore more open to abuse. Whereas a ball based draw you can see what's going on so it's more reassuring. Personally I think both methods are random, and scrutinised and audited sufficiently to ensure they stay that way.

Computer draws may have their transparency problems, but balls have thier own too. The officials pretest multiple times before the draw without revealing the results. They also have a rotation process pertaining to the tubes, which they never disclose either. Not to mention the rotation cycle of the 3 sets of machines...... All under the guise of ensuring a proprely working machine, and the other excuse is to make sure no tampering was done overnight.

I got a bridge to sell these officials. Real cheap....
danyo1332

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Oct 19, 2010, 9:11 pm

So you agree then joker? Ball drawings really ARENT random!? I believe theyre not and that theyre rigged! Systems can prove this IMO.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
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Oct 19, 2010, 9:27 pm

Quote: Originally posted by danyo1332 on Oct 19, 2010
So you agree then joker? Ball drawings really ARENT random!? I believe theyre not and that theyre rigged! Systems can prove this IMO.

No, they're random, I just wanna see the results of the pretests, the tube rotation placements, and the machine set placements.
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Oct 19, 2010, 9:30 pm

What would be the point of rigging a draw? Lottery companies make plenty of money from fair random draws, there's no need to rig anything.
danyo1332

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Oct 19, 2010, 9:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by joker17 on Oct 19, 2010
No, they're random, I just wanna see the results of the pretests, the tube rotation placements, and the machine set placements.

So how do some of these members predict numbers a good amount of the time? And I did a backtest for triples and found out a certain set of series come RIGHT before a triple comes..?

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
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Oct 19, 2010, 9:44 pm
Where to Check Your Lottery Numbers:

Watch the Illinois drawing, and tell me if you see the ball pop from the bottom to the top, or if they just show the ball at the top, watch your t.v. screen change from showing the actual machine, and the balls moving, to just showing that actual winning ball, at the top.

Illinois lottery:
1. Tune into WGN-TV or WBBM (Radio 780 AM) for the following games and times:
  - Powerball: Wednesdays and Saturdays at 9:59 p.m.
  - Mega Millions: Tuesdays and Fridays at 10:00 p.m.
  - Lotto: Monday, Wednesday and Saturday at 9:22 p.m.
  - Little Lotto: Monday through Sunday(seven days a week) at 9:22 p.m.
  - Pick 3/Pick 4: Monday through Sunday(seven days a week) at 12:40 and 9:22 p.m.
2. Your local Lottery retailer can generate a winning number list
3. Call 800-252-1775 or 217-557-6493
4. Log on to our Numbers page
5. Published in most major Illinois newspapers the following day
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danyo1332

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Oct 19, 2010, 9:49 pm
Quote: Originally posted by MzDuffleBaglady on Oct 19, 2010
Where to Check Your Lottery Numbers:

Watch the Illinois drawing, and tell me if you see the ball pop from the bottom to the top, or if they just show the ball at the top, watch your t.v. screen change from showing the actual machine, and the balls moving, to just showing that actual winning ball, at the top.

Illinois lottery:
1. Tune into WGN-TV or WBBM (Radio 780 AM) for the following games and times:
  
  Powerball: Wednesdays and Saturdays at 9:59 p.m.
  
  Mega Millions: Tuesdays and Fridays at 10:00 p.m.
  
  Lotto: Monday, Wednesday and Saturday at 9:22 p.m.
  
  Little Lotto: Monday through Sunday(seven days a week) at 9:22 p.m.
  
  Pick 3/Pick 4: Monday through Sunday(seven days a week) at 12:40 and 9:22 p.m.
2. Your local Lottery retailer can generate a winning number list
3. Call 800-252-1775 or 217-557-6493
4. Log on to our Numbers page
5. Published in most major Illinois newspapers the following day
So you agree? lol..I'm going to look for this for ohio's draws tomorrow..

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
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Oct 19, 2010, 9:53 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Mark Haigh on Oct 19, 2010
What would be the point of rigging a draw? Lottery companies make plenty of money from fair random draws, there's no need to rig anything.

I agree, If they aren't rigging anything let's see the results of the pretests, tube rotations, and machine set rotations. If they have nothing to hide then................
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Oct 19, 2010, 9:56 pm

Quote: Originally posted by danyo1332 on Oct 19, 2010
So how do some of these members predict numbers a good amount of the time? And I did a backtest for triples and found out a certain set of series come RIGHT before a triple comes..?

Which members?
danyo1332

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Oct 19, 2010, 9:58 pm

I would say BlackApple hits a VERY high percentage of the time when he posts, and luckys number hit quite often also. Joker you told me before you want to eventually make a living off of pick 3. How is this possible is the drawings are completely random?

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325223/5825074 Triple Top Tips

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/330673 Tracking Triples/False Triples In Real Time

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/325603/5847177 More From Pick Four (HOT Pick 3 pair system)
joker17

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Oct 19, 2010, 10:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by danyo1332 on Oct 19, 2010
I would say BlackApple hits a VERY high percentage of the time when he posts, and luckys number hit quite often also. Joker you told me before you want to eventually make a living off of pick 3. How is this possible is the drawings are completely random?

I haven't done any analysis on either but I'm sure they're good.

Randomness has patterns. It's possible.

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