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Are lottery numbers drawn randomly?If so what controls the balls.

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Posted: November 1, 2010, 12:22 am - IP Logged

Not sure, personally I don't think so.

He did have the best ever avatar for such a lottery board, Sissyphus. Remember that?

For those not familiar with the legend, Sissyphus was a character in mythology who was tasked with pushing a boulder up a hill only to have it roll down when he reached the top...and go bacjk down and push it back up.....for all eternity.

RJOH,

When you dig through some old threads it's amazing how many familair names show up that haven't posted in a long time.

Besides being a writer and a gold hunter i think he attracted some stalkers here, he may very well be among us under a different name. Or drifted on to better happier hunting grounds. A while back i recall him also belonging to other web groups.

Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

               I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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    Posted: November 1, 2010, 10:20 pm - IP Logged

    Some food for thought, from 8/12/09 through 9/11/09 in the midday Maryland pick 3, that is 29 days. Eighty seven times some one pushed the button on top of the machine. There were zero- 3's, 16- 1's, 15- 2's, 5-4's, 7-5's, 7-6's, 2-7's,  9-8's, 10-9's and 16-0's drawn. I know all the numbers are supposed to even out in the long run, theoretically. But so many of some and so few of others does make you wonder about total randomness. Or if it is fixed in some way, even though that would be highly unlikely. If the lotteries were dishonest who would play?

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      a friend of mine works for one of the old accounting firms that used to supervise the lottery here in illinois - he said, yes it is truly random.  the lottery balls are inspected on a daily basis, there are multiple sets, all the balls are checked for perfect weight and measure before each draw.  if one ball is out of whack - the entire set is discarded.

      the machines are also put through a quality test each time.

      but yes, i still think its rigged... LOL

      nothing like that once or twice a year raffle they do though - they have no live drawing what so ever.  i emailed the lottery to find out how they pick their winners, RNG.  too wierd for me, why not draw the grand prizes live ?

      too much control on a raffle where they are already taking 1/2 off the top.

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        Posted: November 12, 2010, 9:45 pm - IP Logged

        The day of the week controls the balls. But it does that only with certain combinations. 

        For example, in the Virginia Pick 3, if the first ball selected on a Sunday is a 2, then the second ball is never a 9. No 29x front pair has ever won on a Sunday in Virginia - and Virginia has been conducting Sunday drawings, day and night, for almost four years now. Likewise, if the first ball selected on a Sunday is a 7, then the second ball is never a 4.

        Another example: If it is a Monday, and the lottery official in Virginia has drawn 97 for the front pair, it is more likely that the next number drawn would be a 1, 4, 5, or 8 than any other number: 971, 974, 975, and 978 have won on Mondays a combined 17 times; combined, 970, 972, 973, 976, 977, and 979 have won on Mondays only once.

        A third example: if it is Monday, and the Virginia Lottery official draws a 3 and then a 0, then chances are a 4 will follow. Six of the ten times 304 has won have been on Mondays, and about half of all 30x front pairs drawn on Mondays have resulted in 304 being drawn.

        Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

        In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!

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          Posted: November 13, 2010, 3:36 am - IP Logged

          Isn't there a little will-o'-the-wisp inside each lottery ball?


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            Isn't there a little will-o'-the-wisp inside each lottery ball?


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              Posted: November 13, 2010, 10:58 am - IP Logged

              a friend of mine works for one of the old accounting firms that used to supervise the lottery here in illinois - he said, yes it is truly random.  the lottery balls are inspected on a daily basis, there are multiple sets, all the balls are checked for perfect weight and measure before each draw.  if one ball is out of whack - the entire set is discarded.

              the machines are also put through a quality test each time.

              but yes, i still think its rigged... LOL

              nothing like that once or twice a year raffle they do though - they have no live drawing what so ever.  i emailed the lottery to find out how they pick their winners, RNG.  too wierd for me, why not draw the grand prizes live ?

              too much control on a raffle where they are already taking 1/2 off the top.

              Explain why people win using different systems on a consistant basis if the lottery is random.I don't know anything about the balls being magnetized in some states the drawings are not live.

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                Posted: November 13, 2010, 11:02 am - IP Logged

                Some food for thought, from 8/12/09 through 9/11/09 in the midday Maryland pick 3, that is 29 days. Eighty seven times some one pushed the button on top of the machine. There were zero- 3's, 16- 1's, 15- 2's, 5-4's, 7-5's, 7-6's, 2-7's,  9-8's, 10-9's and 16-0's drawn. I know all the numbers are supposed to even out in the long run, theoretically. But so many of some and so few of others does make you wonder about total randomness. Or if it is fixed in some way, even though that would be highly unlikely. If the lotteries were dishonest who would play?

                One month is hardly enough time to come to a conclusion that certain balls favor the draw more than other balls. They could have repeatedly used the same set of balls for days. Or alternated a separate set of balls for the midday drawing and used a different set of balls for the evening drawing.

                Right now a #9 hasn't been drawn in the 4th position in pick 4 for 55 draws. And no position for about 9 draws. One thing is for sure it will be drawn at some point so adjust your plays so you might win.

                Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                               I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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                  Posted: November 13, 2010, 11:17 am - IP Logged

                  Porn stores that sell lottery control the balls.  Porn stores???????? They still got those??????  Oh yeah that's right we have a lot of people in this country that don't have internet,  so there is still a need for porn stores.  Right? Then how do you explain the demise of Blockbuster????  More infrastructure, more free internet,  more free porn,  more power to the random balls!!!!  Oh that's right it's MICHIGAN.  The balls favor MICHIGAN!!

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                    Porn stores that sell lottery control the balls.  Porn stores???????? They still got those??????  Oh yeah that's right we have a lot of people in this country that don't have internet,  so there is still a need for porn stores.  Right? Then how do you explain the demise of Blockbuster????  More infrastructure, more free internet,  more free porn,  more power to the random balls!!!!  Oh that's right it's MICHIGAN.  The balls favor MICHIGAN!!

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                    There was a similar case like this Porn story a few years ago in the news, but the case was never closed because there was a hung jury....

                    So the Judge made the decision to sack the Plaintiff with a heavy fine. The Plaintiff returned the Jewels back to the defendant in return for payment of the ticket. Sometimes Justice hangs in the balance.....


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                      There was a similar case like this Porn story a few years ago in the news, but the case was never closed because there was a hung jury....

                      So the Judge made the decision to sack the Plaintiff with a heavy fine. The Plaintiff returned the Jewels back to the defendant in return for payment of the ticket. Sometimes Justice hangs in the balance.....

                      I forgot to mention that......believe it or not, the Palintiff got off pretty lucky.

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                        One month is hardly enough time to come to a conclusion that certain balls favor the draw more than other balls. They could have repeatedly used the same set of balls for days. Or alternated a separate set of balls for the midday drawing and used a different set of balls for the evening drawing.

                        Right now a #9 hasn't been drawn in the 4th position in pick 4 for 55 draws. And no position for about 9 draws. One thing is for sure it will be drawn at some point so adjust your plays so you might win.

                        I have been following  numbers since the age 10.Every state is different if you been following numbers openly than you become familiar with your state.There are local predictions and statewide predictions, which are generally and most likely to hit anywhere anytime but if you know how to read number patterns you know when to start playing them, and they usually travel.Local predictions are more particular or more specific numbers.State wide or general predictions are more out of smart luck, my method involves a certain balance in both local and state wide predictions.Be careful how you follow predictions on here you have to be aware of whats going on in your state.I strongly advise you to follow lightly 2 more states and one more than the other.If you only follow your state you will have a harder time winning,if yoy follow 2 more states you will learn eventually to predict locally.How this is done i won't explain, but the information i just gave will increase your chances of winning guarenteed every month, imagine hitting just once a month big money, once is all you need to keep winning and not loosing money.Follow my forums, there are many ways to trap winning numbers, if you combine everything together you will love me for the rest of your life.Remember to keep records.There are people on here that are good at trapping numbers using systems, but they trap them generally causing there predictions to hit more often in other states.I don't post every number i play and i don't play every number i post.Number trappers have to expand until you reach your state in a consistant basis.Can't explain how you figure that out.If you want to become good it has to grow naturally and emperically.I don't use wheels or anything to pick my numbers, but i follow sometimes predictions with mine.I posted some numbers for play six and five that is working wonders for people in my state for those that know what to do with them.The only thing i want in return is your feedback as long as i get feed back i will help you win for the season.There is a little puzzle to verything i say , but you have to do the rest. It is important for you to do the rest,that is the only way you become independent to win.Don't be discourage if you are having a hard time , one day your winning will make up for your lost and you will have an uncontrolable smile alll the way to the Lottery head quarters.Remember you don't have to win everyday, you can hit big with one winning .Keep working it out  slowly and when you win and have enough to play once in a while make a fairly big investment depending on your winning and budget.When you gain confidence by winning consistantly, invest a good amount for a limited time.

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                          I have been following  numbers since the age 10.Every state is different if you been following numbers openly than you become familiar with your state.There are local predictions and statewide predictions, which are generally and most likely to hit anywhere anytime but if you know how to read number patterns you know when to start playing them, and they usually travel.Local predictions are more particular or more specific numbers.State wide or general predictions are more out of smart luck, my method involves a certain balance in both local and state wide predictions.Be careful how you follow predictions on here you have to be aware of whats going on in your state.I strongly advise you to follow lightly 2 more states and one more than the other.If you only follow your state you will have a harder time winning,if yoy follow 2 more states you will learn eventually to predict locally.How this is done i won't explain, but the information i just gave will increase your chances of winning guarenteed every month, imagine hitting just once a month big money, once is all you need to keep winning and not loosing money.Follow my forums, there are many ways to trap winning numbers, if you combine everything together you will love me for the rest of your life.Remember to keep records.There are people on here that are good at trapping numbers using systems, but they trap them generally causing there predictions to hit more often in other states.I don't post every number i play and i don't play every number i post.Number trappers have to expand until you reach your state in a consistant basis.Can't explain how you figure that out.If you want to become good it has to grow naturally and emperically.I don't use wheels or anything to pick my numbers, but i follow sometimes predictions with mine.I posted some numbers for play six and five that is working wonders for people in my state for those that know what to do with them.The only thing i want in return is your feedback as long as i get feed back i will help you win for the season.There is a little puzzle to verything i say , but you have to do the rest. It is important for you to do the rest,that is the only way you become independent to win.Don't be discourage if you are having a hard time , one day your winning will make up for your lost and you will have an uncontrolable smile alll the way to the Lottery head quarters.Remember you don't have to win everyday, you can hit big with one winning .Keep working it out  slowly and when you win and have enough to play once in a while make a fairly big investment depending on your winning and budget.When you gain confidence by winning consistantly, invest a good amount for a limited time.

                          "The only thing i want in return is your feedback as long as i get feed back i will help you win for the season."

                           

                          Agreed!

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                            "The only thing i want in return is your feedback as long as i get feed back i will help you win for the season."

                             

                            Agreed!

                            HyperOK, What are my lucky numbers?Hyper

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                              I have been following  numbers since the age 10.Every state is different if you been following numbers openly than you become familiar with your state.There are local predictions and statewide predictions, which are generally and most likely to hit anywhere anytime but if you know how to read number patterns you know when to start playing them, and they usually travel.Local predictions are more particular or more specific numbers.State wide or general predictions are more out of smart luck, my method involves a certain balance in both local and state wide predictions.Be careful how you follow predictions on here you have to be aware of whats going on in your state.I strongly advise you to follow lightly 2 more states and one more than the other.If you only follow your state you will have a harder time winning,if yoy follow 2 more states you will learn eventually to predict locally.How this is done i won't explain, but the information i just gave will increase your chances of winning guarenteed every month, imagine hitting just once a month big money, once is all you need to keep winning and not loosing money.Follow my forums, there are many ways to trap winning numbers, if you combine everything together you will love me for the rest of your life.Remember to keep records.There are people on here that are good at trapping numbers using systems, but they trap them generally causing there predictions to hit more often in other states.I don't post every number i play and i don't play every number i post.Number trappers have to expand until you reach your state in a consistant basis.Can't explain how you figure that out.If you want to become good it has to grow naturally and emperically.I don't use wheels or anything to pick my numbers, but i follow sometimes predictions with mine.I posted some numbers for play six and five that is working wonders for people in my state for those that know what to do with them.The only thing i want in return is your feedback as long as i get feed back i will help you win for the season.There is a little puzzle to verything i say , but you have to do the rest. It is important for you to do the rest,that is the only way you become independent to win.Don't be discourage if you are having a hard time , one day your winning will make up for your lost and you will have an uncontrolable smile alll the way to the Lottery head quarters.Remember you don't have to win everyday, you can hit big with one winning .Keep working it out  slowly and when you win and have enough to play once in a while make a fairly big investment depending on your winning and budget.When you gain confidence by winning consistantly, invest a good amount for a limited time.

                              Thanks for your advice but i don't play any one's predictions usually, except my own i also have been studying the pick 4 game for over 30 years hence the name (four4me) remember I'm the guy that says pic 4 is easier.

                              Pick 4 is a little easier because there are pairs that repeat often.

                              Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

                                             I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.