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# 5/39 on EVEN/ODDs and Patterns

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In even/odd breakdowns and patterns of the 5/39, we're dealing with a two part question.

To answer, we first need to establish that there are SIX EVEN/ODD COMBINATIONS, 5/0; 4/1; 3/2; 2/3; 1/4; 0/5.

Next, we need to establish the parameters of our PATTERNS. For this exercise we separated the 5/39 into three equal sets: 1 to 13 (denoted as the first postion); 14 to 26 (denoted as the second position); 27 to 39 (denoted as the third position). There are 21 patterns in these sets, each denoted by three digits, such as 5-0-0, 0-5-0, 0-0-5, 4-0-1,etc. For the moment, let's put aside patterns and deal with the basic breakdown of each set.

In any 13 digit set there are 1287 combinations of 5 non-repeating numbers. If we break down the set 1 to 13 we see this:

Total even (by position):      496      671      636       671       496      Total Even: 2970
Total odd (by position):        791      616      651       616       791      Total Odd:  3465

Difference                           -295       55       -15         55      -295                        -495

PCT EVEN                           38.5%    52.1%    49.4%     52.1%     38.5%             46.1%
PCT ODD                            61.4%    47.8%    50.5%     47.8%     61.4%             53.8%

5 Even/0 Odd:      6
4 Even/1 Odd:    105
3 Even/2 Odd:    420
2 Even/3 Odd:    525
1 Even/4 Odd:    210
0 Even/5 Odd:     21

We notice in this set more ODD numbers and, more combinations containing more ODD numbers. This is due to the fact our set begins with 1 and end with 13, both odd numbers.

Dealing with the set set 14 to 26, we still have 1287 total combinations, but we see a mirror. Due to the fact we begin and end on EVEN numbers, the totals reflect more EVEN numbers, and combinations containing more EVEN numbers. The breakdown for set 14 and 26 looks like this:

Total even (by position):      791      616      651       616       791      Total Even: 3465
Total odd (by position):        496      671      636       671       496      Total Odd:  2970

Difference                            295      -55        15       -55        295                         495

PCT EVEN                           61.4%    47.8%    50.5%     47.8%     61.4%             53.8%
PCT ODD                            38.5%    52.1%    49.4%     52.1%     38.5%             46.1%

5 Even/0 Odd:     21
4 Even/1 Odd:    210
3 Even/2 Odd:    525
2 Even/3 Odd:    420
1 Even/4 Odd:    105
0 Even/5 Odd:      6

The set three (27 to 39) breakdown is the same as the 1 to 13 set due to starting and ending on ODD numbers. See above.

There is only one PATTERN for each set.

Our set 1 to 13 (denoted as PATTERN 5-0-0), all numbers fall below 13. Therefore the 5-0-0 pattern result will be 1287.

Our set 14 to 26 (denoted as PATTERN 0-5-0), all numbers fall between 14 and 26. Therefore 0-5-0 pattern result will be 1287.

Our set 27 to 29 (denoted as PATTERN 0-0-5), all numbers fall between 27 and 39. Therefore 0-0-5 pattern result will be 1287.

BIGGIE HERE - Any 13 digit set contains one PATTERN which produces EVEN/ODD combinations in relationship to the EVEN/ODD numbers contained in the set. More ODD numbers, more ODD combinations. More EVEN, more EVEN combinations.

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So we know:

One set of any 13 numbers will produce one singulary unique pattern.
For set 1 to 13 the pattern is 5-0-0 because all numbers fall between 1and 13.
For set 14 to 26 the pattern is 0-5-0 because all numbers fall between 14 and 26.
For set 27 to 39 the pattern is 0-0-5 because all numbers fall betwen 27 and 39.
So what happens when we intoduce a second set to be used with the first?

Using any two sets, the PATTERNS now take an expotential jump to 12!

First Set =  1 to 13
Second Set = 14 to 26
Third Set = 27 to 39

4-1-0 (4 first set, 1 second set, 0 third set)
4-0-1 (4 first set, 0 second set, 1 third set)
3-2-0 (3 first set, 2 second set, 0 third set)
3-0-2 (3 first set, 0 second set, 2 third set)
2-3-0 (2 first set, 3 second set, 0 third set)
2-0-3 (2 first set, 0 second set, 3 third set)
1-4-0 (1 first set, 4 second set, 0 third set)
1-0-4 (1 first set, 0 second set, 4 third set)
0-4-1 (0 first set, 4 second set, 1 third set)
0-3-2 (0 first set, 3 second set, 2 third set)
0-2-3 (0 first set, 2 second set, 3 third set)
0-1-4 (0 first set, 1 second set, 4 third set)

The breakdown for any two sets will produce 65780 conbinations. In the following results set 1 to 13 was combined with set 14 to 26:

Total even (by position):     29458     33176    32890     32604     36322    Total Even: 16445
Total odd (by position):       36322     32604    32890     33176     29458    Total Odd:  16445

Difference                            -6864        572            0       -572       6864                             0

PCT EVEN                              44.7%    50.4%       50%    49.5%    55.2%                        50%
PCT ODD                               55.2%    49.5%       50%    50.4%    44.7%                        50%

5 Even/0 Odd:     1287
4 Even/1 Odd:     9295
3 Even/2 Odd:   22308
2 Even/3 Odd:   22308
1 Even/4 Odd:     9295
0 Even/5 Odd:     1287

Starting with an ODD number and ending with an EVEN number balances out the result.

Set 14 to 26 combined with set 27 to 39 produces a mirror of the above.

Notice how or 5 Even/0 Odd and 0 Even/5 Odd are showing 1287? That was the same number as the total draws in any 13 digit set, and the same result for out 5-0-0, 0-5-0, and 0-0-5 PATTERNS.

The EVEN/ODD combinations for 4/1 and 1/4 are showing 9295. And USING ANY TWO SETS, that is also the number of possible PATTERNS in 4-1-0, 4-0-1, 1-4-0, 1-0-4, 0-4-1, and 0-1-4.

What about the EVEN/ODD 3/2 and 2/3? Deja vu. And USING ANY TWO SETS, 22308 is the number of possible PATTERNS in 3-2-0, 3-0-2, 2-3-0, 2-0-3, 0-3-2, and 0-2-3.

Sometimes numbers seem magical. Almost as if they have rhyme and reason.

Then there is that third set of numbers with six additional patterns.

I'll be back.

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Even/Odd Patterns: (32)

EEEEE
EEEEO
EEEOE
EEEOO
EEOEE
EEOEO
EEOOE
EEOOO
EOEEE
EOEEO
EOEOE
EOEOO
EOOEE
EOOEO
EOOOE
EOOOO
OEEEE
OEEEO
OEEOE
OEEOO
OEOEE
OEOEO
OEOOE
OEOOO
OOEEE
OOEEO
OOEOE
OOEOO
OOOEE
OOOEO
OOOOE
OOOOO

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Grouped Even/Odd Patterns:

5E-0O (1)
EEEEE

4E-1O (5)
EEEEO
EEEOE
EEOEE
EOEEE
OEEEE

3E-2O (10)
EEEOO
EEOEO
EEOOE
EOEEO
EOEOE
EOOEE
OEEEO
OEEOE
OEOEE
OOEEE

2E-3O (10)
EEOOO
EOEOO
EOOEO
EOOOE
OEEOO
OEOEO
OEOOE
OOEEO
OOEOE
OOOEE

1E-4O (5)
EOOOO
OEOOO
OOEOO
OOOEO
OOOOE

0E-5O (1)
OOOOO

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Love it Raven! Excellent Idea!

I have a routine written that will find these with a few mods, but have been using flags to keep a talley of the basic  5/0, 4/1, 3/2, 2/3, 1/4, 0/5. Now that you have opened up this avenue, I will work through it as well.

The patterns that were originally presented were used in relation to another question regarding the combinations of EVEN and ODD when 5/39 is divided into three equal sets consisting of 1 to 13, 14 to 26, and 27 to 39.

In presenting this idea, I can incorporate the E/O method, hopefully further defining these patterns. (Yes, dreaming big here)

I promise to drag out the code and see what it needs.

Thanks!

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Okay, we have looked at one set of numbers. We have seen the results produced by two sets. So the only thing left is to include that third set. The breakdown of all three set produces 575757 combinations.

Total even (by position):    268413     288933    287793     288933     286413   Total Even: 1402485
Total odd (by position):      307344     286824    287964     286824     307344   Total Odd:  1476300
Difference                           -38931        2109        -171         2109      -38931                      -73815

PCT EVEN                              46.6%      50.1%      49.9%      50.1%       46.6%
PCT ODD                               53.3%      49.9%      50.1%      49.9%       53.3%

5 Even/0 Odd:    11628
4 Even/1 Odd:    77520
3 Even/2 Odd:   184110
2 Even/3 Odd:   194940
1 Even/4 Odd:    92055
0 Even/5 Odd:    15504

Once we add that third 13 digit set, things look different in out EVEN/ODD breakdown.
Having more odd numbers overall produces more ODD combinations.

Putting the PATTERNS in order, one set of 13 numbers will produce only one pattern. But by crunching 5 numbers in one set of thirteen, we will have all low numbers below 14, or all mid numbers between 14 and 26, or all high numbers between 27 and 39. The result will be the same as the total number of draws for that set.

PATTERN 5-0-0 in  1287 combinations in set 1 to 13 (will produce more ODD combos)
PATTERN 0-5-0 in  1287 combinations in set 14 to 26 (Will produce more EVEN combos)
PATTERN 0-0-5 in  1287 combinations in set 27 to 39 (will produce more ODD combos)

The next 12 PATTERNS are contained in two sets:

PATTERN 4-1-0 in  9295 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 14 to 26
PATTERN 4-0-1 in  9295 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 27 to 39 (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 1-4-0 in  9295 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 14 to 26
PATTERN 1-0-4 in  9295 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 27 to 39 (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 0-4-1 in  9295 combinations in sets 14 to 26 and 27 to 39
PATTERN 0-1-4 in  9295 combinations in sets 14 to 26 and 27 to 39

In the above chart the possibilities increase, but we still have 4 numbers crunched. So we spread the distribution....

PATTERN 3-2-0 in 22308 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 14 to 26
PATTERN 3-0-2 in 22308 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 27 to 39 (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 2-3-0 in 22308 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 14 to 26
PATTERN 2-0-3 in 22308 combinations in sets 1 to 13 and 27 to 39 (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 0-3-2 in 22308 combinations in sets 14 to 26 and 27 to 39
PATTERN 0-2-3 in 22309 combinations in sets 14 to 26 and 27 to 39

Just by moving one number in the PATTERN we more than double the combinations across two sets. But look what happens when we include all three sets.

As we spread the PATTERN out, and increase the numbers available, we add more possible combinations.

PATTERN 3-1-1 in 48334 combinations in all sets (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 1-3-1 in 48334 combinations in all sets
PATTERN 1-1-3 in 48334 combinations in all sets (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 2-2-1 in 79092 combinations in all sets
PATTERN 2-1-2 in 79092 combinations in all sets (Will produce more ODD Combos)
PATTERN 1-2-2 in 79092 combinations in all sets

I hope this answers a few questions about dividing 5/39 into three equal sets.

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That's a lot of information, but until the lottery starts boking action on:

5 Even/0 Odd
4 Even/1 Odd
3 Even/2 Odd
2 Even/3 Odd
1 Even/4 Odd
0 Even/5 Odd

it's just information. The goal being to win a jackpot, if you don't know exactly what even and odd nunmbers, well the lottery would lobve anyone who attempted to play the combos.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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That's a lot of information, but until the lottery starts boking action on:

5 Even/0 Odd
4 Even/1 Odd
3 Even/2 Odd
2 Even/3 Odd
1 Even/4 Odd
0 Even/5 Odd

it's just information. The goal being to win a jackpot, if you don't know exactly what even and odd nunmbers, well the lottery would lobve anyone who attempted to play the combos.

The Low/High ones!

Low/High Patterns: (32)

LLLLL
LLLLH
LLLHL
LLLHH
LLHLL
LLHLH
LLHHL
LLHHH
LHLLL
LHLLH
LHLHL
LHLHH
LHHLL
LHHLH
LHHHL
LHHHH
HLLLL
HLLLH
HLLHL
HLLHH
HLHLL
HLHLH
HLHHL
HLHHH
HHLLL
HHLLH
HHLHL
HHLHH
HHHLL
HHHLH
HHHHL
HHHHH

Grouped Low/High Patterns:

5L-0H (1)
LLLLL

4L-1H (5)
LLLLH
LLLHL
LLHLL
LHLLL
HLLLL

3L-2H (10)
LLLHH
LLHLH
LLHHL
LHLLH
LHLHL
LHHLL
HLLLH
HLLHL
HLHLL
HHLLL

2L-3H (10)
LLHHH
LHLHH
LHHLH
LHHHL
HLLHH
HLHLH
HLHHL
HHLLH
HHLHL
HHHLL

1L-4H (5)
LHHHH
HLHHH
HHLHH
HHHLH
HHHHL

0L-5H (1)
HHHHH

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Low/High/Even/Odd Patterns: (1024)

LELELELELE     LOLELELELE     HELELELELE     HOLELELELE
LELELELELO     LOLELELELO     HELELELELO     HOLELELELO
LELELELEHE     LOLELELEHE     HELELELEHE     HOLELELEHE
LELELELEHO     LOLELELEHO     HELELELEHO     HOLELELEHO
LELELELOLE     LOLELELOLE     HELELELOLE     HOLELELOLE
LELELELOLO     LOLELELOLO     HELELELOLO     HOLELELOLO
LELELELOHE     LOLELELOHE     HELELELOHE     HOLELELOHE
LELELELOHO     LOLELELOHO     HELELELOHO     HOLELELOHO
LELELEHELE     LOLELEHELE     HELELEHELE     HOLELEHELE
LELELEHELO     LOLELEHELO     HELELEHELO     HOLELEHELO
LELELEHEHE     LOLELEHEHE     HELELEHEHE     HOLELEHEHE
LELELEHEHO     LOLELEHEHO     HELELEHEHO     HOLELEHEHO
LELELEHOLE     LOLELEHOLE     HELELEHOLE     HOLELEHOLE
LELELEHOLO     LOLELEHOLO     HELELEHOLO     HOLELEHOLO
LELELEHOHE     LOLELEHOHE     HELELEHOHE     HOLELEHOHE
LELELEHOHO     LOLELEHOHO     HELELEHOHO     HOLELEHOHO
LELELOLELE     LOLELOLELE     HELELOLELE     HOLELOLELE
LELELOLELO     LOLELOLELO     HELELOLELO     HOLELOLELO
LELELOLEHE     LOLELOLEHE     HELELOLEHE     HOLELOLEHE
LELELOLEHO     LOLELOLEHO     HELELOLEHO     HOLELOLEHO
LELELOLOLE     LOLELOLOLE     HELELOLOLE     HOLELOLOLE
LELELOLOLO     LOLELOLOLO     HELELOLOLO     HOLELOLOLO
LELELOLOHE     LOLELOLOHE     HELELOLOHE     HOLELOLOHE
LELELOLOHO     LOLELOLOHO     HELELOLOHO     HOLELOLOHO
LELELOHELE     LOLELOHELE     HELELOHELE     HOLELOHELE
LELELOHELO     LOLELOHELO     HELELOHELO     HOLELOHELO
LELELOHEHE     LOLELOHEHE     HELELOHEHE     HOLELOHEHE
LELELOHEHO     LOLELOHEHO     HELELOHEHO     HOLELOHEHO
LELELOHOLE     LOLELOHOLE     HELELOHOLE     HOLELOHOLE
LELELOHOLO     LOLELOHOLO     HELELOHOLO     HOLELOHOLO
LELELOHOHE     LOLELOHOHE     HELELOHOHE     HOLELOHOHE
LELELOHOHO     LOLELOHOHO     HELELOHOHO     HOLELOHOHO
LELEHELELE     LOLEHELELE     HELEHELELE     HOLEHELELE
LELEHELELO     LOLEHELELO     HELEHELELO     HOLEHELELO
LELEHELEHE     LOLEHELEHE     HELEHELEHE     HOLEHELEHE
LELEHELEHO     LOLEHELEHO     HELEHELEHO     HOLEHELEHO
LELEHELOLE     LOLEHELOLE     HELEHELOLE     HOLEHELOLE
LELEHELOLO     LOLEHELOLO     HELEHELOLO     HOLEHELOLO
LELEHELOHE     LOLEHELOHE     HELEHELOHE     HOLEHELOHE
LELEHELOHO     LOLEHELOHO     HELEHELOHO     HOLEHELOHO
LELEHEHELE     LOLEHEHELE     HELEHEHELE     HOLEHEHELE
LELEHEHELO     LOLEHEHELO     HELEHEHELO     HOLEHEHELO
LELEHEHEHE     LOLEHEHEHE     HELEHEHEHE     HOLEHEHEHE
LELEHEHEHO     LOLEHEHEHO     HELEHEHEHO     HOLEHEHEHO
LELEHEHOLE     LOLEHEHOLE     HELEHEHOLE     HOLEHEHOLE
LELEHEHOLO     LOLEHEHOLO     HELEHEHOLO     HOLEHEHOLO
LELEHEHOHE     LOLEHEHOHE     HELEHEHOHE     HOLEHEHOHE
LELEHEHOHO     LOLEHEHOHO     HELEHEHOHO     HOLEHEHOHO
LELEHOLELE     LOLEHOLELE     HELEHOLELE     HOLEHOLELE
LELEHOLELO     LOLEHOLELO     HELEHOLELO     HOLEHOLELO
LELEHOLEHE     LOLEHOLEHE     HELEHOLEHE     HOLEHOLEHE
LELEHOLEHO     LOLEHOLEHO     HELEHOLEHO     HOLEHOLEHO
LELEHOLOLE     LOLEHOLOLE     HELEHOLOLE     HOLEHOLOLE
LELEHOLOLO     LOLEHOLOLO     HELEHOLOLO     HOLEHOLOLO
LELEHOLOHE     LOLEHOLOHE     HELEHOLOHE     HOLEHOLOHE
LELEHOLOHO     LOLEHOLOHO     HELEHOLOHO     HOLEHOLOHO
LELEHOHELE     LOLEHOHELE     HELEHOHELE     HOLEHOHELE
LELEHOHELO     LOLEHOHELO     HELEHOHELO     HOLEHOHELO
LELEHOHEHE     LOLEHOHEHE     HELEHOHEHE     HOLEHOHEHE
LELEHOHEHO     LOLEHOHEHO     HELEHOHEHO     HOLEHOHEHO
LELEHOHOLE     LOLEHOHOLE     HELEHOHOLE     HOLEHOHOLE
LELEHOHOLO     LOLEHOHOLO     HELEHOHOLO     HOLEHOHOLO
LELEHOHOHE     LOLEHOHOHE     HELEHOHOHE     HOLEHOHOHE
LELEHOHOHO     LOLEHOHOHO     HELEHOHOHO     HOLEHOHOHO
LELOLELELE     LOLOLELELE     HELOLELELE     HOLOLELELE
LELOLELELO     LOLOLELELO     HELOLELELO     HOLOLELELO
LELOLELEHE     LOLOLELEHE     HELOLELEHE     HOLOLELEHE
LELOLELEHO     LOLOLELEHO     HELOLELEHO     HOLOLELEHO
LELOLELOLE     LOLOLELOLE     HELOLELOLE     HOLOLELOLE
LELOLELOLO     LOLOLELOLO     HELOLELOLO     HOLOLELOLO
LELOLELOHE     LOLOLELOHE     HELOLELOHE     HOLOLELOHE
LELOLELOHO     LOLOLELOHO     HELOLELOHO     HOLOLELOHO
LELOLEHELE     LOLOLEHELE     HELOLEHELE     HOLOLEHELE
LELOLEHELO     LOLOLEHELO     HELOLEHELO     HOLOLEHELO
LELOLEHEHE     LOLOLEHEHE     HELOLEHEHE     HOLOLEHEHE
LELOLEHEHO     LOLOLEHEHO     HELOLEHEHO     HOLOLEHEHO
LELOLEHOLE     LOLOLEHOLE     HELOLEHOLE     HOLOLEHOLE
LELOLEHOLO     LOLOLEHOLO     HELOLEHOLO     HOLOLEHOLO
LELOLEHOHE     LOLOLEHOHE     HELOLEHOHE     HOLOLEHOHE
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LELOHOHOHO     LOLOHOHOHO     HELOHOHOHO     HOLOHOHOHO
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LEHELELEHE     LOHELELEHE     HEHELELEHE     HOHELELEHE
LEHELELEHO     LOHELELEHO     HEHELELEHO     HOHELELEHO
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LEHELELOLO     LOHELELOLO     HEHELELOLO     HOHELELOLO
LEHELELOHE     LOHELELOHE     HEHELELOHE     HOHELELOHE
LEHELELOHO     LOHELELOHO     HEHELELOHO     HOHELELOHO
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LEHELEHELO     LOHELEHELO     HEHELEHELO     HOHELEHELO
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LEHELEHEHO     LOHELEHEHO     HEHELEHEHO     HOHELEHEHO
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LEHELEHOHO     LOHELEHOHO     HEHELEHOHO     HOHELEHOHO
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LEHELOLEHE     LOHELOLEHE     HEHELOLEHE     HOHELOLEHE
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LEHELOLOHO     LOHELOLOHO     HEHELOLOHO     HOHELOLOHO
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LEHEHELEHO     LOHEHELEHO     HEHEHELEHO     HOHEHELEHO
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LEHEHELOLO     LOHEHELOLO     HEHEHELOLO     HOHEHELOLO
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LEHEHEHEHE     LOHEHEHEHE     HEHEHEHEHE     HOHEHEHEHE
LEHEHEHEHO     LOHEHEHEHO     HEHEHEHEHO     HOHEHEHEHO
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LEHEHEHOHO     LOHEHEHOHO     HEHEHEHOHO     HOHEHEHOHO
LEHEHOLELE     LOHEHOLELE     HEHEHOLELE     HOHEHOLELE
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LEHEHOLEHE     LOHEHOLEHE     HEHEHOLEHE     HOHEHOLEHE
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LEHEHOLOLE     LOHEHOLOLE     HEHEHOLOLE     HOHEHOLOLE
LEHEHOLOLO     LOHEHOLOLO     HEHEHOLOLO     HOHEHOLOLO
LEHEHOLOHE     LOHEHOLOHE     HEHEHOLOHE     HOHEHOLOHE
LEHEHOLOHO     LOHEHOLOHO     HEHEHOLOHO     HOHEHOLOHO
LEHEHOHELE     LOHEHOHELE     HEHEHOHELE     HOHEHOHELE
LEHEHOHELO     LOHEHOHELO     HEHEHOHELO     HOHEHOHELO
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LEHEHOHEHO     LOHEHOHEHO     HEHEHOHEHO     HOHEHOHEHO
LEHEHOHOLE     LOHEHOHOLE     HEHEHOHOLE     HOHEHOHOLE
LEHEHOHOLO     LOHEHOHOLO     HEHEHOHOLO     HOHEHOHOLO
LEHEHOHOHE     LOHEHOHOHE     HEHEHOHOHE     HOHEHOHOHE
LEHEHOHOHO     LOHEHOHOHO     HEHEHOHOHO     HOHEHOHOHO
LEHOLELELE     LOHOLELELE     HEHOLELELE     HOHOLELELE
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LEHOLEHOHO     LOHOLEHOHO     HEHOLEHOHO     HOHOLEHOHO
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LEHOLOLEHE     LOHOLOLEHE     HEHOLOLEHE     HOHOLOLEHE
LEHOLOLEHO     LOHOLOLEHO     HEHOLOLEHO     HOHOLOLEHO
LEHOLOLOLE     LOHOLOLOLE     HEHOLOLOLE     HOHOLOLOLE
LEHOLOLOLO     LOHOLOLOLO     HEHOLOLOLO     HOHOLOLOLO
LEHOLOLOHE     LOHOLOLOHE     HEHOLOLOHE     HOHOLOLOHE
LEHOLOLOHO     LOHOLOLOHO     HEHOLOLOHO     HOHOLOLOHO
LEHOLOHELE     LOHOLOHELE     HEHOLOHELE     HOHOLOHELE
LEHOLOHELO     LOHOLOHELO     HEHOLOHELO     HOHOLOHELO
LEHOLOHEHE     LOHOLOHEHE     HEHOLOHEHE     HOHOLOHEHE
LEHOLOHEHO     LOHOLOHEHO     HEHOLOHEHO     HOHOLOHEHO
LEHOLOHOLE     LOHOLOHOLE     HEHOLOHOLE     HOHOLOHOLE
LEHOLOHOLO     LOHOLOHOLO     HEHOLOHOLO     HOHOLOHOLO
LEHOLOHOHE     LOHOLOHOHE     HEHOLOHOHE     HOHOLOHOHE
LEHOLOHOHO     LOHOLOHOHO     HEHOLOHOHO     HOHOLOHOHO
LEHOHELELE     LOHOHELELE     HEHOHELELE     HOHOHELELE
LEHOHELELO     LOHOHELELO     HEHOHELELO     HOHOHELELO
LEHOHELEHE     LOHOHELEHE     HEHOHELEHE     HOHOHELEHE
LEHOHELEHO     LOHOHELEHO     HEHOHELEHO     HOHOHELEHO
LEHOHELOLE     LOHOHELOLE     HEHOHELOLE     HOHOHELOLE
LEHOHELOLO     LOHOHELOLO     HEHOHELOLO     HOHOHELOLO
LEHOHELOHE     LOHOHELOHE     HEHOHELOHE     HOHOHELOHE
LEHOHELOHO     LOHOHELOHO     HEHOHELOHO     HOHOHELOHO
LEHOHEHELE     LOHOHEHELE     HEHOHEHELE     HOHOHEHELE
LEHOHEHELO     LOHOHEHELO     HEHOHEHELO     HOHOHEHELO
LEHOHEHEHE     LOHOHEHEHE     HEHOHEHEHE     HOHOHEHEHE
LEHOHEHEHO     LOHOHEHEHO     HEHOHEHEHO     HOHOHEHEHO
LEHOHEHOLE     LOHOHEHOLE     HEHOHEHOLE     HOHOHEHOLE
LEHOHEHOLO     LOHOHEHOLO     HEHOHEHOLO     HOHOHEHOLO
LEHOHEHOHE     LOHOHEHOHE     HEHOHEHOHE     HOHOHEHOHE
LEHOHEHOHO     LOHOHEHOHO     HEHOHEHOHO     HOHOHEHOHO
LEHOHOLELE     LOHOHOLELE     HEHOHOLELE     HOHOHOLELE
LEHOHOLELO     LOHOHOLELO     HEHOHOLELO     HOHOHOLELO
LEHOHOLEHE     LOHOHOLEHE     HEHOHOLEHE     HOHOHOLEHE
LEHOHOLEHO     LOHOHOLEHO     HEHOHOLEHO     HOHOHOLEHO
LEHOHOLOLE     LOHOHOLOLE     HEHOHOLOLE     HOHOHOLOLE
LEHOHOLOLO     LOHOHOLOLO     HEHOHOLOLO     HOHOHOLOLO
LEHOHOLOHE     LOHOHOLOHE     HEHOHOLOHE     HOHOHOLOHE
LEHOHOLOHO     LOHOHOLOHO     HEHOHOLOHO     HOHOHOLOHO
LEHOHOHELE     LOHOHOHELE     HEHOHOHELE     HOHOHOHELE
LEHOHOHELO     LOHOHOHELO     HEHOHOHELO     HOHOHOHELO
LEHOHOHEHE     LOHOHOHEHE     HEHOHOHEHE     HOHOHOHEHE
LEHOHOHEHO     LOHOHOHEHO     HEHOHOHEHO     HOHOHOHEHO
LEHOHOHOLE     LOHOHOHOLE     HEHOHOHOLE     HOHOHOHOLE
LEHOHOHOLO     LOHOHOHOLO     HEHOHOHOLO     HOHOHOHOLO
LEHOHOHOHE     LOHOHOHOHE     HEHOHOHOHE     HOHOHOHOHE
LEHOHOHOHO     LOHOHOHOHO     HEHOHOHOHO     HOHOHOHOHO

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Zeta Reticuli Star System
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What good are the patterns without the specific numbers?

I've never seen a payout chart for patterns.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

Zeta Reticuli Star System
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These are tonight's Illinois Little Lotto wining numbers:

LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 03, 2010

WINNING NUMBERS: 02 - 03 - 15 - 22 - 35
For those who follow such things, not E-O but "perimeter" and "inside" numbers, meaning the perimeter of the playslip, top and bottom row, extreme left and right column, every one of those numbers is a "perimeter" number.

Same breakdown, there are 20 perimeter numbrs and 19 inside numbers.

Nice to know, but it doesn't pass the "so what" test.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

NASHVILLE, TENN
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The "so what" tests are just what is needed right now.  We have mathematically explored just about every aspect of the lottery to no avail.  We have done +/- 1, added last night's results to mid-day, made chart after chart, multipled or divided pie, sie, my, and lie, divided into groups, color coded columns, v-tracked, x-tracked, and side-tracked every which way including loose with absolutely nothing to show for our efforts.

What we need now are just those explorations which have been contributed on this thread.  Has anyone every thought about "perimeter" versus "inside" numbers?  If they have I missed the thread.  I know I never did until I read this thread.

So keep on bringing those "so what" tests.  We need all we can get.  One day in the not too distant future another Isacc Newton will come along and string all of them together in such a way he wins every jackpot every day in every country in every world (assuming there are parallel worlds).

Dallas, Texas
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Okay Raven, I promised. I apologize for taking longer than necessary, but I needed to check my data. I also apologize to those who are finding this a bit of a mess. However, the purpose is to answer valid questions posed by GiveFive as to the overall breakdown of 5/39. This brought up a further query, by Raven, which I felt was necessary to explore.  I do wish I had the time necessary to relate this to each individual Cash 5 game but at the moment, it is not possible.

Raven, this is the breakdown for the Even/Odd Patterns you provided. As yuo see the WINNER is the OEOEO.

EEEEE = 11628

EEEEO = 15504
EEEOE = 15504
EOEEE = 15504
OEEEE = 15504
EEOEE = 15504
TOTAL = 77520

EEOEO = 20349
EOEEO = 20349
OEEEO = 20349
OEEOE = 20349
OEOEE = 20349
EOEOE = 20349
OOEEE = 15504
EOOEE = 15504
EEOOE = 15504
EEEOO = 15504
TOTAL = 184110

OOEOE = 20349
OOEEO = 20349
OEEOO = 20349
OEOOE = 20349
OEOEO = 26334 <----------------------------------------
EOOEO = 20349
EOEOO = 20349
EOOOE = 15504
EEOOO = 15504
OOOEE = 15504
TOTAL = 194940

EOOOO = 15504
OEOOO = 20349
OOEOO = 20349
OOOEO = 20349
OOOOE = 15504
TOTAL = 92055

OOOOO = 15504

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The "so what" tests are just what is needed right now.  We have mathematically explored just about every aspect of the lottery to no avail.  We have done +/- 1, added last night's results to mid-day, made chart after chart, multipled or divided pie, sie, my, and lie, divided into groups, color coded columns, v-tracked, x-tracked, and side-tracked every which way including loose with absolutely nothing to show for our efforts.

What we need now are just those explorations which have been contributed on this thread.  Has anyone every thought about "perimeter" versus "inside" numbers?  If they have I missed the thread.  I know I never did until I read this thread.

So keep on bringing those "so what" tests.  We need all we can get.  One day in the not too distant future another Isacc Newton will come along and string all of them together in such a way he wins every jackpot every day in every country in every world (assuming there are parallel worlds).

GASMETERGUY,

"What we need now are just those explorations which have been contributed on this thread."

Given your results thus far, maybe what you need is a fresh new approach.  As you know, I am convinced that the randomness of lottery draws is sufficient to preclude success at predicting them.  However, if there is ANY possibility that, either through accident or maliciousness, predictable patterns exist in these draws, I think it is extremely unlikely that the selection methods I've seen discussed here are going to bring them to light.  JMHO.  If you still think there is potential for success, I think you should focus on the computerized draws, as the extreme physical chaos in the ball machines, in my opinion, makes looking there a waste of time.

In this paper by IBM researchers at Almaden, you might see an application of ARC to your problem of determining the optimal makeup and size of the subset of 39 numbers that you can afford to Wheel on a daily basis.  For starters, "c" in this algorithm would be just that size.

Excel is a powerful program, but trying to implement ARC with it would not be reasonable.  If you've never programmed, here's an inexpensive (FREE) way to get started.

http://justbasic.wikispaces.com/

--Jimmy4164

P.S.  If you succeed with this, I trust you will not forget who put you on to it!

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For those of you who were wondering I went ahead and ran this same function for the Cash5 game in Texas. Keep in mind the Texas Cash5 is a 5 of 37 game. Still it will give you a good idea of how to apply the baseline laid out to this point.

I used 3897 Cash 5 Draws from Texas.
The results:

Total Even (by position):        1841        1892       1949        1989      1751
Total odd (by position):          2056        2005       1948        1908      2146
Difference                              -215         -113          +1         +81       -395
PCT EVEN                                47.%         48.%      50.%        51.%     44.%
PCT ODD                                 52.%         51.%      50.%        48.%     55.%

5 Even/0 Odd:     92
4 Even/1 Odd:    469
3 Even/2 Odd:   1277
2 Even/3 Odd:   1316
1 Even/4 Odd:    623
0 Even/5 Odd:    120

In this part of the analysis we're dealing with real numbers. This chart reflects the actual number of evens and odds by position, and and Even/Odd count in simple form.

In comparing this chart to the ones above, there is no major surprise that I see.

I'll be back to post the results showing the breakdown by the three set pattern and be even and odd mix later today.

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