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# Lottery W/ Law Of Third Applied

Topic closed. 18 replies. Last post 6 years ago by time*treat.

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LAS VEGAS
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 Posted: December 5, 2010, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

Ah, if you can find a text data source that doesn't require a whole bunch of work to get the numbers into usable form ...

examples:

Texas' text format is good.

Florida's text format is a clusterfark

(Neither of those is a 6/49, though.)

Time*Treat, et al-

Do appreciate your upbeat but factual heads up on text data source-

Just fun the fun of it would be nice how it actually performs,

but no can do .... YET!!!

Good Luck All.

EddessaKnight

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Re-wording the question slightly to "How many drawings before 2/3rds of the numbers are drawn?"

a few definitions

block size -- number of (sequential) drawings to consider at once

block count -- number of complete blocks in the draw history of size block size

nums rmvd -- average quantity of numbers removed per block

source data: Lotto Texas 6/54

period: 04/26/2006 ~ 12/04/2010

 block size block count nums rmvd 1 482 6.00 2 481 11.32 3 480 16.09 4 479 20.31 5 478 24.13 6 477 27.52 7 476 30.49 8 475 33.13 9 474 35.46 10 473 37.51

A block size of 1 always removes 6 numbers (by definition).

A block size of 2 can remove 12 unique numbers, but often (2 out of 3 times) there will be a repeat, so the average is 11 and a piece.

To remove a full 2/3rds of the numbers (36 of 54) takes on average only 10 drawings.

So probably even fewer drawings to remove 2/3rds on a 6/49 game.

[They've changed the game matrix and format a few times. This is the most recent incarnation]

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LAS VEGAS
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 Posted: December 6, 2010, 5:57 pm - IP Logged

Re-wording the question slightly to "How many drawings before 2/3rds of the numbers are drawn?"

a few definitions

block size -- number of (sequential) drawings to consider at once

block count -- number of complete blocks in the draw history of size block size

nums rmvd -- average quantity of numbers removed per block

source data: Lotto Texas 6/54

period: 04/26/2006 ~ 12/04/2010

 block size block count nums rmvd 1 482 6.00 2 481 11.32 3 480 16.09 4 479 20.31 5 478 24.13 6 477 27.52 7 476 30.49 8 475 33.13 9 474 35.46 10 473 37.51

A block size of 1 always removes 6 numbers (by definition).

A block size of 2 can remove 12 unique numbers, but often (2 out of 3 times) there will be a repeat, so the average is 11 and a piece.

To remove a full 2/3rds of the numbers (36 of 54) takes on average only 10 drawings.

So probably even fewer drawings to remove 2/3rds on a 6/49 game.

[They've changed the game matrix and format a few times. This is the most recent incarnation]

Hi time*treat

Do appreciate your on going interest & contuing constructive contributions towards investigating this Law' opporftunity

Definitions, block numbers, size and expected drawings are  positive tools & yard sticks to help get a realistic handle.

Hope we can keep this developing forward >>>>>>

Many thanks again for your support!!!

Regards,

EddessaKnight

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 Posted: December 7, 2010, 8:05 pm - IP Logged

Out of curiosity, I adapted this for p5 and ran it against 3 years (2002~2004) of my state's 5/36 game ...

Same definitions as before.

 block size block count nums rmvd 1 1096 5.00 2 1095 9.30 3 1094 12.99 4 1093 16.14 5 1092 18.85 6 1091 21.20 7 1090 23.22 8 1089 24.95

So, like before, giving each number one full chance to come out (on average) leaves 1/3rd of the numbers not drawn. Here you're having to choose between 5*7 and 5*8, you have to go with 5*8 to fully cover 36 numbers.

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