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Posted: January 18, 2011, 11:03 pm - IP Logged

So I was at the store today standing in line at the instant vending machine waiting to get a $20 Gold Rush. The last person behind me buys the ticket I was about to buy so I decided to just watch him scratch it and see if he wins before I buy one. He scratched it in 10 seconds, did not win, and proceeded to buy another. I also watched him scratch that ticket and lose again. So I jumped at the opportunity and bought the next ticket. Won $50 !

While Im standing in line to cash the ticket, the same guy cashes a $100 check and hits the Gold Rush again. I watch him buy 5 straight tickets and lose on all of them and leave the store in disgust. So again I swoop in and buy one myself. Another $50 win ! 

Anyone else do this ?

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    NO! I wouldn't dream of stooping so low...it's almost stalker-ish.

    JUST KIDDING!

    Seriously though, just do it in a way that is subtle..if that is possible. Most times you have nothing to worry about because once these ticket

    junkies go into a state of frenzy, there isn't much else they do notice except that they need that next ticket.

    It's certainly not your fault they only carry $100 on them and have to leave the machine after 5 losers and leave the winner in there for you.

    Go get it, I say. Just be careful of the ones who stay behind to watch YOU. LOL! There is one nasty lady I've run into a few times (and if Keystone

    reads this Big Smile - it's another one...not my local meanie) she will buy and buy and watch that no one steps up to that machine before she is done.

    And when she is done, she will hang around and ASK what people who are playing the same ticket won. No tact, only hatred LOL

    It's no ones fault but her own that she let the machine suck up all her money and she's ticked. It's players like that who need to quit. Wait, no,

    let them play because sometimes they do a very good job of weeding out the losers.

    Good luck and don't feel bad, hit the big one.

    One thing, if you do run into a watcher watching you...buy it and take it home and hope for the best, then they'll never know. Some of them

    are downright uncivilized and deserve to writhe with pain wondering if the one you got is the really big one they missed.

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      I certainly agree with you that this is indeed "stooping low" this was the first time ive ever tried this. I have seen other "stalkers" in stores and those people are just plain creeps. They have the audacity to ask you how much you have won and what ticket you are playing and the # of the ticket. As I said I originally wanted to buy a Gold Rush anyway but im sure anyone else here would be equally curious to know if the person in front of you wins or not so you don't waste your money, say if he were to win $100 etc.

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        So I was at the store today standing in line at the instant vending machine waiting to get a $20 Gold Rush. The last person behind me buys the ticket I was about to buy so I decided to just watch him scratch it and see if he wins before I buy one. He scratched it in 10 seconds, did not win, and proceeded to buy another. I also watched him scratch that ticket and lose again. So I jumped at the opportunity and bought the next ticket. Won $50 !

        While Im standing in line to cash the ticket, the same guy cashes a $100 check and hits the Gold Rush again. I watch him buy 5 straight tickets and lose on all of them and leave the store in disgust. So again I swoop in and buy one myself. Another $50 win ! 

        Anyone else do this ?

        James1,

        I enjoyed your story.  IMHO you did nothing wrong.  It took me way back to when I was young. A long time ago, I was told that something similar is done in gambling casino's with slot machines.  I've never done it, but I heard about it after I won a small jackpot playing a slot.

        Forty plus years ago, I was playing a slot machine in Harrah's casino in Lake Tahoe. I had been playing it for a while, (I dont remember how long I was playing this particular machine) but I was not winning anything. I was feeding it quarters but absolutely none were dropping into the tray.  I was about to get up and walk away, when my Aunt who was playing the machine next to mine, said for me to stay with it because it was going to pay off shortly.  Naturally, I asked her how did she know that?  My Aunt replied because when a machine stops dropping a few quarters with each spin, it's about to produce a jackpot.  I was skeptical, but stayed with the machine.  A few minutes later, a red light on top of the machine lit up and started spinning, as well as a bell in the machine started ringing.  I looked at the bars, and had matched all three.  A female casino worker appeared, gave me a quarter to play off the jackpot, and handed me $37.50 cash!

        My Aunt was a regular visitor to Lake Tahoe's casinos. As for me, at that time, I was a twenty year old that had travelled to California to visit relatives. And I didnt know squat.  (I thought 37 bucks was a lot of money back then) My Aunt pointed out two women playing slots that were subtly keeping an eye on other slot players. Sure enough, when a guy got up and walked away from a slot he was playing, both women immediately made a move to get to the machine the guy just left!!  The closest woman got there first, but we didnt stick around to see if she won anything. 

        In the car going home, I asked my Aunt if she ever watched other slot players while she was playing a slot. Her reply: "I sure as hell do, and if you got off that machine, I was gonna be on it quick, because I saw them other two babes eyeballin' you!"  So go ahead and keep an eye on those scratch off machines!  More power to you!  Ya know, there's more games being played in a casino than people realize!!! Leaving

        About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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          Posted: January 19, 2011, 11:00 am - IP Logged

          So I was at the store today standing in line at the instant vending machine waiting to get a $20 Gold Rush. The last person behind me buys the ticket I was about to buy so I decided to just watch him scratch it and see if he wins before I buy one. He scratched it in 10 seconds, did not win, and proceeded to buy another. I also watched him scratch that ticket and lose again. So I jumped at the opportunity and bought the next ticket. Won $50 !

          While Im standing in line to cash the ticket, the same guy cashes a $100 check and hits the Gold Rush again. I watch him buy 5 straight tickets and lose on all of them and leave the store in disgust. So again I swoop in and buy one myself. Another $50 win ! 

          Anyone else do this ?

          Look Around when You're in the Store: Someone May Be Watching You!

          A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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            I certainly agree with you that this is indeed "stooping low" this was the first time ive ever tried this. I have seen other "stalkers" in stores and those people are just plain creeps. They have the audacity to ask you how much you have won and what ticket you are playing and the # of the ticket. As I said I originally wanted to buy a Gold Rush anyway but im sure anyone else here would be equally curious to know if the person in front of you wins or not so you don't waste your money, say if he were to win $100 etc.

            James! I hope you didn't take offense to my post....I was kidding!

            I do not see anything wrong with watching what is played and discarded...the low down people are the ones with no shame who approach you

            with questions..can't they keep it low key? Like NOT SPEAK?

            If I see someone hitting a machine like crazy on one ticket and not turning in a winner and then leaving, sure enough that ticket will be my next

            choice.

            I think you misunderstood what I was saying and if I gave you the impression that I was coming down on you I wasn't at all.

            I agree with your method, it just might get you the top prize one day.

            Good luck!

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              Posted: January 19, 2011, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

              James1,

              I enjoyed your story.  IMHO you did nothing wrong.  It took me way back to when I was young. A long time ago, I was told that something similar is done in gambling casino's with slot machines.  I've never done it, but I heard about it after I won a small jackpot playing a slot.

              Forty plus years ago, I was playing a slot machine in Harrah's casino in Lake Tahoe. I had been playing it for a while, (I dont remember how long I was playing this particular machine) but I was not winning anything. I was feeding it quarters but absolutely none were dropping into the tray.  I was about to get up and walk away, when my Aunt who was playing the machine next to mine, said for me to stay with it because it was going to pay off shortly.  Naturally, I asked her how did she know that?  My Aunt replied because when a machine stops dropping a few quarters with each spin, it's about to produce a jackpot.  I was skeptical, but stayed with the machine.  A few minutes later, a red light on top of the machine lit up and started spinning, as well as a bell in the machine started ringing.  I looked at the bars, and had matched all three.  A female casino worker appeared, gave me a quarter to play off the jackpot, and handed me $37.50 cash!

              My Aunt was a regular visitor to Lake Tahoe's casinos. As for me, at that time, I was a twenty year old that had travelled to California to visit relatives. And I didnt know squat.  (I thought 37 bucks was a lot of money back then) My Aunt pointed out two women playing slots that were subtly keeping an eye on other slot players. Sure enough, when a guy got up and walked away from a slot he was playing, both women immediately made a move to get to the machine the guy just left!!  The closest woman got there first, but we didnt stick around to see if she won anything. 

              In the car going home, I asked my Aunt if she ever watched other slot players while she was playing a slot. Her reply: "I sure as hell do, and if you got off that machine, I was gonna be on it quick, because I saw them other two babes eyeballin' you!"  So go ahead and keep an eye on those scratch off machines!  More power to you!  Ya know, there's more games being played in a casino than people realize!!! Leaving

              lol GiveFive, that's a good story too and it rings true. Years ago while in a casino, I casually noticed the guy near me kept putting in but wasn't

              winning anything big at all...some here, some there. He was at that machine quite awhile and sometimes he'd utter a complaint and eventually just

              got frustrated and left the machine. Well, someone slid in there right after he left and did not play too long before hitting triple flaming 7's - 3

              sets of them. I remember looking at the payout and seeing $10,000 for that combo. I do not know what they were feeding the machine but

              hopefully it was the max bet. I didn't ask questions, the only thing I could think of is: omg, I hope that poor guy left the casino and is not standing

              there watching in total disgust.

              I've done this myself before too. Feed the machine, get tired of it, walk by it not 10 minutes later to see someone collecting $1,000 for hitting

              the bars I should have stuck around to hit on.

              So, yes, watch, wait and win.

              Good luck to you too!

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                lol GiveFive, that's a good story too and it rings true. Years ago while in a casino, I casually noticed the guy near me kept putting in but wasn't

                winning anything big at all...some here, some there. He was at that machine quite awhile and sometimes he'd utter a complaint and eventually just

                got frustrated and left the machine. Well, someone slid in there right after he left and did not play too long before hitting triple flaming 7's - 3

                sets of them. I remember looking at the payout and seeing $10,000 for that combo. I do not know what they were feeding the machine but

                hopefully it was the max bet. I didn't ask questions, the only thing I could think of is: omg, I hope that poor guy left the casino and is not standing

                there watching in total disgust.

                I've done this myself before too. Feed the machine, get tired of it, walk by it not 10 minutes later to see someone collecting $1,000 for hitting

                the bars I should have stuck around to hit on.

                So, yes, watch, wait and win.

                Good luck to you too!

                I view slot machines different than lottery numbers.  If a machine is cold, my advice is to not stay sitting on it.  It means its not time for that machine to pay out yet. 

                If you do try a machine that someone just played (and they lost on it), take the seat and wait about a minute before inserting your money.

                If a machine is hot then there are 2 options; either take the money and run if you win, or keep playing it if it stays hot but run with 75% of your winnings.........never give the machine all your winnings back.

                Also some casinos, not many but a few, appear to be on computer networks that can be manipulated from an upstairs control room; there are times when the network appears to be set and all the machines at one end of the casino are hot and a ripple effect occurs and it travels to the other end of the casino; also when the top floor is hot the bottom floor machines are cold and vice versa............but it depends on which casino; only a few operate that way.

                Big Wins For All!

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                  Look Around when You're in the Store: Someone May Be Watching You!

                  They always do...there's one guy at my local grocery store who seems to always need sugar when we're both there at the same time. What?

                  I've already turned around to see him quickly turn back to trying to decide what type of sugar to buy and have also seen him there when other people

                  are purchasing tickets.

                  The machine is positioned by the sugar aisle, right off at an angle to easily see the whole panel of instant selections and what a player is

                  selecting. He's not waiting in line, he's watching the machine. Fine and fair enough but he is so troll-like to begin with, that type of behavior

                  that is so obvious, is just unbecoming and turn-offish.

                  There is nothing wrong with quietly, discreetly watching...it's the ones that can't curb the need to ask questions - many questions and who can't

                  seem to keep their eyes off of scratched winning tickets, in someone ELSE'S hands.

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                    I view slot machines different than lottery numbers.  If a machine is cold, my advice is to not stay sitting on it.  It means its not time for that machine to pay out yet. 

                    If you do try a machine that someone just played (and they lost on it), take the seat and wait about a minute before inserting your money.

                    If a machine is hot then there are 2 options; either take the money and run if you win, or keep playing it if it stays hot but run with 75% of your winnings.........never give the machine all your winnings back.

                    Also some casinos, not many but a few, appear to be on computer networks that can be manipulated from an upstairs control room; there are times when the network appears to be set and all the machines at one end of the casino are hot and a ripple effect occurs and it travels to the other end of the casino; also when the top floor is hot the bottom floor machines are cold and vice versa............but it depends on which casino; only a few operate that way.

                    Keystone! I agree! Take the money and run. I hit 3 rockets, won $800 and cashed out. I wasn't going to stick around and see if it was going

                    to give more and if it did to someone else, I didn't know. I was happy.

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                      Keystone! I agree! Take the money and run. I hit 3 rockets, won $800 and cashed out. I wasn't going to stick around and see if it was going

                      to give more and if it did to someone else, I didn't know. I was happy.

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                        So I was at the store today standing in line at the instant vending machine waiting to get a $20 Gold Rush. The last person behind me buys the ticket I was about to buy so I decided to just watch him scratch it and see if he wins before I buy one. He scratched it in 10 seconds, did not win, and proceeded to buy another. I also watched him scratch that ticket and lose again. So I jumped at the opportunity and bought the next ticket. Won $50 !

                        While Im standing in line to cash the ticket, the same guy cashes a $100 check and hits the Gold Rush again. I watch him buy 5 straight tickets and lose on all of them and leave the store in disgust. So again I swoop in and buy one myself. Another $50 win ! 

                        Anyone else do this ?

                        LOL thats funny. Although I have to admit, Ive been guilty of pulling sneak attacks. If I did win, I definitely wouldnt cash it there while the other dude is still there. Id probably put it in my pocket and cash it somewhere else.

                         

                        People that scratch tickets in the store while others are hovering around the lotto lines are asking for it.

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                          They always do...there's one guy at my local grocery store who seems to always need sugar when we're both there at the same time. What?

                          I've already turned around to see him quickly turn back to trying to decide what type of sugar to buy and have also seen him there when other people

                          are purchasing tickets.

                          The machine is positioned by the sugar aisle, right off at an angle to easily see the whole panel of instant selections and what a player is

                          selecting. He's not waiting in line, he's watching the machine. Fine and fair enough but he is so troll-like to begin with, that type of behavior

                          that is so obvious, is just unbecoming and turn-offish.

                          There is nothing wrong with quietly, discreetly watching...it's the ones that can't curb the need to ask questions - many questions and who can't

                          seem to keep their eyes off of scratched winning tickets, in someone ELSE'S hands.

                          Haha ! As a player this does become a major turn off and your luck starts to dwindle afterwards. But I imagine for the troll it does increase his odds of purchasing a winning ticket. Kind of like those immigrant gas station owners who claim millions in lottery wins annually from their own stores after watching droves of customers lose on tickets.

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                            Haha ! As a player this does become a major turn off and your luck starts to dwindle afterwards. But I imagine for the troll it does increase his odds of purchasing a winning ticket. Kind of like those immigrant gas station owners who claim millions in lottery wins annually from their own stores after watching droves of customers lose on tickets.

                            Here's a fun thing to watch for if you live in New Jersey and play scratch-off's.

                            In the near future Jersey will institute a new game for losing scratch off's to become winners.  I'm not really sure of  the details of it, but the jist of it all is the player has to keep his/her losing tickets and mail them in to see if they become winners.

                            How many losing scratch-offs do you think will be mailed in by gas station owners, deli owners, pizza shop owners and the like?   People that scratch a loser in the store usually throw them in the store's garbage can.........

                            About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                              Just ask the clerk, if you have a good relationship with the clerk, the clerk can tell you what was won.