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Bought a book of 20x the money tonight it was garbage! The last book I got was worth over $1,400
This one a crappy $190 very dissapointed. Today was my last haraah with scratchoffs in quantity for
A while. I just bought a house today so I need to focus on that but the first ticket outta the book
was a 5x $10 and I thought it may be good but nope thats pa for ya! Good luck all! !
Keep winning while im on break!
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$1 Centennial Cash- loser
Was going to get a $5 ticket but the machine kept spitting the bill out... and no replacement ID yet to get behind the counter...hmmm... maybe next time
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Quote: Originally posted by Chris$ on Jan 28, 2012
Bought a book of 20x the money tonight it was garbage! The last book I got was worth over $1,400
This one a crappy $190 very dissapointed. Today was my last haraah with scratchoffs in quantity for
A while. I just bought a house today so I need to focus on that but the first ticket outta the book
was a 5x $10 and I thought it may be good but nope thats pa for ya! Good luck all! !
Keep winning while im on break!
Whenever I see that 20x the Money and Big Money ticket, it makes me think of the stats they have on the website for the remaining prizes of $1,000
on those 2 games. (those 2 were popular, so they 'restocked' the supply of winners to make the players happy) I'm just wondering if there are sooo
many left, why aren't we finding more? lol, it's like along with the restock of winners, they added 5 million more losers. Overall, same game. Shame.
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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Jan 29, 2012
Whenever I see that 20x the Money and Big Money ticket, it makes me think of the stats they have on the website for the remaining prizes of $1,000
on those 2 games. (those 2 were popular, so they 'restocked' the supply of winners to make the players happy) I'm just wondering if there are sooo
many left, why aren't we finding more? lol, it's like along with the restock of winners, they added 5 million more losers. Overall, same game. Shame.
I think the same thing. That is why I always went for 20X books or Big Money. I think next time I will go for a game that has been out for ages. I do know when i got my last 20X book the guy had about 5-6. i don't think he has more than 2 books of any other game.
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Quote: Originally posted by MattfromPA on Jan 24, 2012
For me. PA turned into a disaster again. Money Vault ($3 ticket) #010-019 had ONE winner of $5. And that win wasn't until #018. I think the new ones are back to the holiday-ticket level from what I have seen. PA teases you and then reverts back.
WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!!!
The then new, $20 "Winner Take All" tickets that came out after the Christmas disasters was pretty good for the first few weeks. I had four or five $100 winners and two $250 winners to go along with some smaller ones. The great state of PA did start something new with these tickets. You can now get a big winner of $25 for your $20 investment. Or even $30 on a some tickets.
It used to be that you won your money back or $40, $50, or $100. NOW they want to start this crap of giving you a WHOLE $5 profit.
On all those winning tickets, they changed the algorithm from the old one they have been using since LAST Feb. or March. That is when the PA tickets went down hill. I posted about the $2000 + in losers with the same LOSING set of numbers on them. Some combination of 1,6,14,24. They ALL had the number 24 on them.
The new winning WTA tickets DID NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS ON THEM.
Now that those tickets have been out for a while guess what numbers stated to show up again. They are back to using the same lousy losing algorithm. I have over $600 in losers and they ALL have a 24 on them. Most have some combination of 1,6,14,24.
One run of those losers was number 11 thru 21. The last one, number 21 was $40
$220 in and $40 out. You gotta be kidding me!!!! When the clerks start tellilng you to not buy a certain ticket because it SUCKS it's time to pick another one.
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Quote: Originally posted by AJ100 on Jan 29, 2012
WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!!!
The then new, $20 "Winner Take All" tickets that came out after the Christmas disasters was pretty good for the first few weeks. I had four or five $100 winners and two $250 winners to go along with some smaller ones. The great state of PA did start something new with these tickets. You can now get a big winner of $25 for your $20 investment. Or even $30 on a some tickets.
It used to be that you won your money back or $40, $50, or $100. NOW they want to start this crap of giving you a WHOLE $5 profit.
On all those winning tickets, they changed the algorithm from the old one they have been using since LAST Feb. or March. That is when the PA tickets went down hill. I posted about the $2000 + in losers with the same LOSING set of numbers on them. Some combination of 1,6,14,24. They ALL had the number 24 on them.
The new winning WTA tickets DID NOT HAVE THOSE NUMBERS ON THEM.
Now that those tickets have been out for a while guess what numbers stated to show up again. They are back to using the same lousy losing algorithm. I have over $600 in losers and they ALL have a 24 on them. Most have some combination of 1,6,14,24.
One run of those losers was number 11 thru 21. The last one, number 21 was $40
$220 in and $40 out. You gotta be kidding me!!!! When the clerks start tellilng you to not buy a certain ticket because it SUCKS it's time to pick another one.
AJ
Oh it's bad alright....
I can find winners but what is bad is this too....the number patterns are so predictable that when you scratch 'your numbers' and do the first row
of play field numbers and get a look at them, you can tell right then if it's going to win or lose. With the one column play field like on a $2 ticket,
you can tell if the ticket is going to lose if you get a number that is reversed...say you need 23 and they give 32....or you need 12 and they give 21.
It's sick and it happens a LOT.
That trick is good for the players that play one or two but the players like me who play a lot of them in a week, well, you can't help but gain insight
into what they're doing and it doesn't fool people who play more than that. They sure don't have me believing what they want everyone to.
If there was a way to tell before you buy it that its crappy, I wish I could see it. It's not until after you lay your money out and it's 'yours' that you
find sooner than planned that you have a LOSER.
I've got all kinds of things running around in my head..I've seen so, so much with these dang things it's crazy. Their random is a controlled random.
It uses a very small number base for winners and losers. They seem to all connect. I'm tired of driving myself nuts thinking about the play field
numbers when I haven't even scratched the WHOLE ticket. I could toss it doing the very first line of play field numbers.....that's pretty bad. It
takes the fun out of it.
Can someone in PA do me a favor?
Next time you buy a Chili ticket....can you see if you EVER win when you have the number 7 or 8 in the play area?!?!?
I still can't even get a stinking pepper for so many losing tickets with 7's and 8's.
I know, I know, we don't have to play them......but we do and the complaint is that THE GAME HAS CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY IT IS ALMOST
CRIMINAL....I'm totally serious.
I remember the good old days of MORE WINS AND BIGGER WINS. I do not consider winning MY money back a win. It's an aggravation.
I know just what you mean omiller....it's a break even or an amount so minimal of winnings that it's almost a friggin joke.
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$10 Fla lotto black, GRT and $20 LFL there were 5-6 straight losers on each, only to win $20 - $30 .... I got 'hawked' on a GRT for $50 winner after i had bought 4 straight losers ARRGHH
Went onto the FMC bins. 1st bin 4 straight losers then $20 winner. 2nd bin $100 winner straight out with "10X" symbol - now why didnt i get this 1st - I would of gone up for the day. I had my hand over it but decided on other slots !!!
Chased some other tickets but ended up losing my arse... down over $300.....
2018 Biggest Win: $500 (multiple times but who cares about $500 right?)
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Quote: Originally posted by dr65 on Jan 29, 2012
Oh it's bad alright....
I can find winners but what is bad is this too....the number patterns are so predictable that when you scratch 'your numbers' and do the first row
of play field numbers and get a look at them, you can tell right then if it's going to win or lose. With the one column play field like on a $2 ticket,
you can tell if the ticket is going to lose if you get a number that is reversed...say you need 23 and they give 32....or you need 12 and they give 21.
It's sick and it happens a LOT.
That trick is good for the players that play one or two but the players like me who play a lot of them in a week, well, you can't help but gain insight
into what they're doing and it doesn't fool people who play more than that. They sure don't have me believing what they want everyone to.
If there was a way to tell before you buy it that its crappy, I wish I could see it. It's not until after you lay your money out and it's 'yours' that you
find sooner than planned that you have a LOSER.
I've got all kinds of things running around in my head..I've seen so, so much with these dang things it's crazy. Their random is a controlled random.
It uses a very small number base for winners and losers. They seem to all connect. I'm tired of driving myself nuts thinking about the play field
numbers when I haven't even scratched the WHOLE ticket. I could toss it doing the very first line of play field numbers.....that's pretty bad. It
takes the fun out of it.
Can someone in PA do me a favor?
Next time you buy a Chili ticket....can you see if you EVER win when you have the number 7 or 8 in the play area?!?!?
I still can't even get a stinking pepper for so many losing tickets with 7's and 8's.
I know, I know, we don't have to play them......but we do and the complaint is that THE GAME HAS CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY IT IS ALMOST
CRIMINAL....I'm totally serious.
I remember the good old days of MORE WINS AND BIGGER WINS. I do not consider winning MY money back a win. It's an aggravation.
I know just what you mean omiller....it's a break even or an amount so minimal of winnings that it's almost a friggin joke.
I agree that I can scratch the play area numbers and know if I have a winner or loser almost instantly. If you have 2-3 matching end #'s, you might as well throw it. seeing a 12-22-32 or anything like that means loser. I get excited when i look at the play area and don't see anything like that, but then it still loses.lol I agree with AJ. Winner Take All was hot. I didnt know from experience, but the store owner told me and showed me his wins he sold. Also like Dr mentioned if you need 12, they give you 21 or if you have 16/39 they give you 19/36. They really do try to deceive the player. I know there is no way to tell, but I would love to know how many winning tickets are throqn away after doing away with the () and more recently the random letters. I know they did away with them cause of store clerks scratching a small pin sized strip to see if they win. I have an idea.. Goto all machine and bring back the cheater codes or a smartphone app. If I can have a smarthphone app for my Giant and redners gas cards, then we can have one for the PA Lottery. I am sure they fear someone cracking the code, but if the code is in the 3D play area, then you need to buy the ticket anyway... Nothing worse than having to drag a ton of tickets back to a store to confirm they are losers. Thats why I got Solid Gold as my last packs. Can't mistake winners/losers on them. .. Ok , I am done.lol