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Amnightus asks, How many Mathematicians Play the Lottery

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Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

 

Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

 

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    Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

     

    Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

     

    amnightus

    amnightus:  What do you consider a math related field?  Statistics?  Physics?  Accounting? 

    It should be interesting to see the answers you get.

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      Posted: March 29, 2011, 2:35 pm - IP Logged

      Any field that is math intensive, accounting, engineering, data analysts, physics, math high school teacher, etc etc

       

      my criteria is fairly broad. 

       

      Anyways, just wondering.

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        Good question, I'd be interested in hearing the replies as well.


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          Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

           

          Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

           

          amnightus

          Why do you ask?

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            amnightus

            You first, I know that doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, have all won jackpots in the past so I would

            say that within the population of members here at LP that the results would be very much the same as they

            would be within the general population.  Any statistician worthy of their trade should  be able  to calculate

            this without much error. 

            RL

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              Math is good for calculating the odds and knowing what you are up against.

              As far as trying to use it to win lotto that's about like thinking the puzzle game of Sudoku is a math game, which it isn't, it's logic.

              In lotteries one and only one winning combination is drawn, out of millions.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

                 

                Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

                 

                amnightus

                None of us can know the answer to the first question because of the anonymity provided by the web and by this site.

                As to the answer to the second question we can only answer from our own personal experience and knowledge of our acquaintances who fell within the description you provided.

                I'd estimate probably 5% of the several hundred scientists in various fields I was immediately acquainted with personally during my life played the lottery frequently enough to allow me to become aware of it.  About half of those used one form of math or another to experiment with predicting future results.

                Engineers of roughly equal numbers followed the same profile within my immediate circles of acquaintances.

                I never became acquainted with many accountants, statisticians, or business majors.  The one stockbroker I knew well enough to call him  a friend didn't play the lottery.

                A number of educators I knew personally teaching math at high school or university levels played the lottery and attempted to use math to further their successes, but I can't estimate by hindsight after so many years how many did, or might have.

                A lot of medical professionals and technicians of various marginally math related fields did play the lotteries and probably I knew a few who attempted to use math in their efforts without discussing it.

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                  Of all the jackpot winners I've ever seen interviewed only one referred to a "formula" and what he said was so confusing that the reportyer who asked him about it only looked at the camera and said, "You get that folks?"

                  Have the people here ever thought about the lotteries having mathematicians on the payroll or as consultants?

                  The only mathematician that comes to mind with lotto is the so called "professor" with the hype job about getting shot for his formula that won the lottery twice. Sell the sizzle, not the steak.

                  Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                  Lep

                  There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                    Of all the jackpot winners I've ever seen interviewed only one referred to a "formula" and what he said was so confusing that the reportyer who asked him about it only looked at the camera and said, "You get that folks?"

                    Have the people here ever thought about the lotteries having mathematicians on the payroll or as consultants?

                    The only mathematician that comes to mind with lotto is the so called "professor" with the hype job about getting shot for his formula that won the lottery twice. Sell the sizzle, not the steak.

                    You might be forgetting the lady multiple jackpot winner who lived in Texas at the time, now Las Vegas.  Ex-professor of math, retired.

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                      Why do you ask?

                      Are fingers and toes counters mathematicians?


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                        You might be forgetting the lady multiple jackpot winner who lived in Texas at the time, now Las Vegas.  Ex-professor of math, retired.

                        That must be this one.

                        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7873950/American-woman-wins-lottery-for-a-fourth-time.html

                        It's interesting how so many articles on this like to talk about how huge the odds are that someone would win 4 jackpots.  The total odds they quote are those you get when you multiply the 4 individual odds together.  I don't think she was predicting those hits in advance.

                        It's also noteworthy that 3 of 4 of her wins were Scratchers...

                        It's doubtful her math background had anything to do with her wins.

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                          I am still trying to connect the question with jimmy's answer.

                           

                          Question

                          Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

                          Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

                           

                          Answer by jim

                          It's also noteworthy that 3 of 4 of her wins were Scratchers...                -> She plays and has won

                          It's doubtful her math background had anything to do with her wins.     -> She has a math degree

                           

                          I don't think the question was how can math help you win but rather how many people who truly understand the

                          math behind the lottery still play.  A dollar per dream sounds cheap to me.

                           

                          RL


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                            2.The act of implying or the condition of being implied.
                            3.Something that is implied, especially:
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                              Josephus

                              I am still trying to connect the question with jimmy's answer.

                               

                              Question

                              Hey guys, I'm curious, how many people on here have degrees in math or math related fields and play the lottery?

                              Similarly, how many people with math degrees or backgrounds have had success with the lottery.

                               

                              Answer by jim

                              It's also noteworthy that 3 of 4 of her wins were Scratchers...                -> She plays and has won

                              It's doubtful her math background had anything to do with her wins.     -> She has a math degree

                               

                              I don't think the question was how can math help you win but rather how many people who truly understand the

                              math behind the lottery still play.  A dollar per dream sounds cheap to me.

                               

                              RL

                              RL:  For jimmy every question, every statement, every nuance is a direct or indirect opportunity to sally forth and release all those pent up insecurities he got from other kids chasing him home from school and throwing rocks at him when he was a kid.  There was a reason they chased him home that way and threw rocks at him, but he just couldn't change what he is, and more importantly, what he isn't.