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Amnightus asks, How many Mathematicians Play the Lottery

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truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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Posted: April 13, 2011, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

Amnightus                                   

Is there some reason you picked mathematicians?  I mean you could have asked how many garbage collectors play the lottery, how many postal workers, how many welfare recipients, etc;

What good does it do to know if, say there were, 1,000 mathematicians that played the lottery last year?  Without tying it into some other facet of playing the lottery?   Were you wondering if they (mathematicians) have won more than their share of lottery prizes?

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    Posted: April 13, 2011, 1:12 pm - IP Logged

    Amnightus                                   

    Is there some reason you picked mathematicians?  I mean you could have asked how many garbage collectors play the lottery, how many postal workers, how many welfare recipients, etc;

    What good does it do to know if, say there were, 1,000 mathematicians that played the lottery last year?  Without tying it into some other facet of playing the lottery?   Were you wondering if they (mathematicians) have won more than their share of lottery prizes?

    Truecritic: considering that this is a 'mathematics' forum, and the focus is about 'mathematics', I don't think it's unusual to ask about 'mathematicians' and not 'garbage collectors'. If it were called the "garbage collection" forum, then it might be natural to ask "how many garbage collectors play the lottery", lol.

    So, I think it makes more sense to ask how many mathematicians play than it would be to ask how many garbage collectors or postal workers.

    And if I were to take a guess, I would think a reason to ask about mathematicians in a mathematics forum would be to find out if many mathematicians play the lottery, maybe they have an edge because of their background? Or perhaps if mathematicians avoid the lottery, maybe it's because they find the lottery makes no absolutely no mathematical sense to play. If I were asking the first question "how many play", I would probaly followup with those other questions.

    And you ask if it does any good to know? Does it have to do good? Why not just for the sake of knowing, whether it does any good or not?

    Personally, I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to his question as well. I'm not a mathematician, and since this is a mathematics forum it leads me to believe that mathematics could play a part in the lottery and I would wonder as well if mathematicians play, or if they avoid it.

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      Posted: April 13, 2011, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

      i know of about 3 people who are or had maths education in university.

      one a pal, he never plays lotto, but will always want to tell yuo how to play.

       

      another is a uni lecturer, who also contracted to the lotto on devising the odds payout tables for keno here, and he never plays.

       

      another is an engineer, who altthough, esposuse lotto is a suckers bet, does play and hit a 5+b  once here, about $8k,

      i happily pointed out that thats it for his luck, he's never gonna get the jackpot now.

      so 2/3 math wizzes dont play in my experience.

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      keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

        truecritic's avatar - PirateTreasure
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        Posted: April 13, 2011, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

        Truecritic: considering that this is a 'mathematics' forum, and the focus is about 'mathematics', I don't think it's unusual to ask about 'mathematicians' and not 'garbage collectors'. If it were called the "garbage collection" forum, then it might be natural to ask "how many garbage collectors play the lottery", lol.

        So, I think it makes more sense to ask how many mathematicians play than it would be to ask how many garbage collectors or postal workers.

        And if I were to take a guess, I would think a reason to ask about mathematicians in a mathematics forum would be to find out if many mathematicians play the lottery, maybe they have an edge because of their background? Or perhaps if mathematicians avoid the lottery, maybe it's because they find the lottery makes no absolutely no mathematical sense to play. If I were asking the first question "how many play", I would probaly followup with those other questions.

        And you ask if it does any good to know? Does it have to do good? Why not just for the sake of knowing, whether it does any good or not?

        Personally, I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to his question as well. I'm not a mathematician, and since this is a mathematics forum it leads me to believe that mathematics could play a part in the lottery and I would wonder as well if mathematicians play, or if they avoid it.

        "considering that this is a 'mathematics' forum, and the focus is about 'mathematics', I don't think it's unusual to ask about 'mathematicians' and not 'garbage collectors'. If it were called the "garbage collection" forum, then it might be natural to ask "how many garbage collectors play the lottery", lol."

        Let's not overlook the possibility that if Amnightus was interested in garbage collectors, he would be smart enough to post in the Lottery Discussion ForumWink

        All my questions remain, as posted, waiting for your response, Amnightus.

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          "considering that this is a 'mathematics' forum, and the focus is about 'mathematics', I don't think it's unusual to ask about 'mathematicians' and not 'garbage collectors'. If it were called the "garbage collection" forum, then it might be natural to ask "how many garbage collectors play the lottery", lol."

          Let's not overlook the possibility that if Amnightus was interested in garbage collectors, he would be smart enough to post in the Lottery Discussion ForumWink

          All my questions remain, as posted, waiting for your response, Amnightus.

          You'll probably agree the question carried considerable baggage by implication.  Maybe something rhyming with "only the poor and uneducated play the lottery", but with an undercurrent that anyone with a math background would have better sense than to play the lotteries.

          I'd be tempted to conjecture the question wasn't sincere as a question, but rather was barbed statement.


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            RL:  For jimmy every question, every statement, every nuance is a direct or indirect opportunity to sally forth and release all those pent up insecurities he got from other kids chasing him home from school and throwing rocks at him when he was a kid.  There was a reason they chased him home that way and threw rocks at him, but he just couldn't change what he is, and more importantly, what he isn't.

            I'm truly disappointed.  When Joey arrived on the scene, I thought the Loyal Opposition had finally found a fair mediator and spokesperson.  It was not to be.  Look at what he writes now.  A couple of his early efforts were almost worthy of that 'A' he covets, but his juvenile expressions at this juncture are hardly deserving of a 'C'.  I think Team Digits should start scouting for a new representative as this bearer has let them down. Unhappy

            --Jimmy4164

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              You'll probably agree the question carried considerable baggage by implication.  Maybe something rhyming with "only the poor and uneducated play the lottery", but with an undercurrent that anyone with a math background would have better sense than to play the lotteries.

              I'd be tempted to conjecture the question wasn't sincere as a question, but rather was barbed statement.

              "I'd be tempted to conjecture the question wasn't sincere as a question, but rather was barbed statement."

              You mean my question(s)?

              No, I simply picked an assortment of players.  Postal workers are far from poor.  Garbage workers are far from poor.  People playing lotteries while on welfare have been brought up here countless times.   Since Amnightus,  expanded his inclusion list, I was attempting to come up with an assortment of people not included in his list.  There was no underlying reason for my choices.

              Feel free to substitute any other types of lottery players of your choice.

              So far it appears that Amnightus, has abandoned his thread?  He's posted, what?, like 4 sentences that don't really offer much by way of explanation.  I'm looking for a detailed, expanded explanation.

              Amnightus also posted another intriguing question, in another thread - he seems to be perfect for the QP crowd? Yes, that statement does have an implication, Joe.

              "I would love to hear the answer to this question. Do past numbers somehow help you pick future winners??? And if so, why aren't more people successful??? Amnightus"

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                "I'd be tempted to conjecture the question wasn't sincere as a question, but rather was barbed statement."

                You mean my question(s)?

                No, I simply picked an assortment of players.  Postal workers are far from poor.  Garbage workers are far from poor.  People playing lotteries while on welfare have been brought up here countless times.   Since Amnightus,  expanded his inclusion list, I was attempting to come up with an assortment of people not included in his list.  There was no underlying reason for my choices.

                Feel free to substitute any other types of lottery players of your choice.

                So far it appears that Amnightus, has abandoned his thread?  He's posted, what?, like 4 sentences that don't really offer much by way of explanation.  I'm looking for a detailed, expanded explanation.

                Amnightus also posted another intriguing question, in another thread - he seems to be perfect for the QP crowd? Yes, that statement does have an implication, Joe.

                "I would love to hear the answer to this question. Do past numbers somehow help you pick future winners??? And if so, why aren't more people successful??? Amnightus"

                Truecritic:  I was referring to his questions.  I just looked as his profile.  He posted everything over relatively short time after joining LP and hasn't posted anything since.  I hadn't seen the one from the other thread but it seems to be just rhetorical question.  Maybe an alternate ID of someone, maybe a troll, maybe just someone bouncing through surfing who had a momentary axe to grind, ground it, and went on to greater things somewhere else.

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                  Posted: April 14, 2011, 9:17 am - IP Logged

                  Truecritic:  I was referring to his questions.  I just looked as his profile.  He posted everything over relatively short time after joining LP and hasn't posted anything since.  I hadn't seen the one from the other thread but it seems to be just rhetorical question.  Maybe an alternate ID of someone, maybe a troll, maybe just someone bouncing through surfing who had a momentary axe to grind, ground it, and went on to greater things somewhere else.

                  Sorry I misunderstood to whom you were referring.

                  He could return...maybe.