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Would You Buy Tickets For A Nationwide Raffle?

Yes

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[ 58.1% ]

[ 18 ]

[ 41.9% ]

Total valid votes

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rdgrnr

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Apr 8, 2011, 2:21 pm

I think it's high time we had a nationwide raffle.

There could be huge prizes while keeping the ticket price reasonable.

What do you think about it and what do you think the tickets should cost?
sully16

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Ringleader

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Apr 8, 2011, 4:33 pm

Yes I would, I'd spend as much as 20 dollars.
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Apr 8, 2011, 4:49 pm

Lottery, with a decent matrix, yes. Raffle, the way they are presently set up, no way.

Using Illinois as an example, which is prretty common, 500,000 tickets are sold and there are 509 winners. Of those 509, four win $1,000,000.

So looking at it another way, you spend your $20 for the privilege of most likely being one of the 499,491 losers. And even if you win the $1,000,000, each dollar played has won $50,000 compared to one lottery dollar winning millions.

Granted, on a nationwide scale there would be a much biggger base than 500,000 tickets, but I think the percentage of winners would be reflected the same way as a raffle of 500,000 chumps, ah, er players.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
Stack47

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Apr 8, 2011, 8:10 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 8, 2011
I think it's high time we had a nationwide raffle.

There could be huge prizes while keeping the ticket price reasonable.

What do you think about it and what do you think the tickets should cost?

MM sold over 100 million tickets in just one drawing so it's reasonable to believe a national raffle would sell at least that much with 5 or 6 weeks to buy tickets. Some states have done well selling $20 tickets while others struggled with $10 tickets. Either way, the majority of the tickets will be sold in the more populated states and people will complain when the majority of winners are in those states.
rdgrnr

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:09 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Apr 8, 2011
MM sold over 100 million tickets in just one drawing so it's reasonable to believe a national raffle would sell at least that much with 5 or 6 weeks to buy tickets. Some states have done well selling $20 tickets while others struggled with $10 tickets. Either way, the majority of the tickets will be sold in the more populated states and people will complain when the majority of winners are in those states.

And so your answer is?
dallascowboyfan

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:33 pm

Bring it on!!!!!
rdgrnr

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:36 pm

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Apr 8, 2011
Bring it on!!!!!

I like the way you think, dallas!
sully16

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Ringleader

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Apr 8, 2011, 11:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 8, 2011
I like the way you think, dallas!

me also, I love raffles.
Raven62

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Apr 9, 2011, 10:43 am

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Apr 8, 2011
I think it's high time we had a nationwide raffle.

There could be huge prizes while keeping the ticket price reasonable.

What do you think about it and what do you think the tickets should cost?

The Prize would be $500,000,000 and the Tickets would be Free: They would base the number of raffle tickets you get on the amount of Income Tax you Pay the IRS each Year.

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sully16

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Ringleader

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Apr 9, 2011, 10:49 am

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Apr 9, 2011
The Prize would be $500,000,000 and the Tickets would be Free: They would base the number of raffle tickets you get on the amount of Income Tax you Pay the IRS each Year.

Raven ,I like the way you think ! Best raffle idea yet !
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Apr 9, 2011, 10:58 am

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Apr 9, 2011
The Prize would be $500,000,000 and the Tickets would be Free: They would base the number of raffle tickets you get on the amount of Income Tax you Pay the IRS each Year.

That's a great idea from the player's side, Raven, but no lottery commission would go for it. Don't forget the raffles are a guaranteed 50% take of what comes in for them. As they've been conducted so far, anyway.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
Raven62

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Apr 9, 2011, 11:34 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Apr 9, 2011
That's a great idea from the player's side, Raven, but no lottery commission would go for it. Don't forget the raffles are a guaranteed 50% take of what comes in for them. As they've been conducted so far, anyway.

Nationwide Lottery=Federal Lottery Commission

The Increase in Income Tax Collected would more than cover the Prize Awarded!

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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GASMETERGUY

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Apr 9, 2011, 1:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Apr 9, 2011
The Prize would be $500,000,000 and the Tickets would be Free: They would base the number of raffle tickets you get on the amount of Income Tax you Pay the IRS each Year.

What about those who don't pay income tax? How would they get their tickets (and believe me, they WILL get their tickets)?
RJOh

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Apr 9, 2011, 1:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Apr 9, 2011
The Prize would be $500,000,000 and the Tickets would be Free: They would base the number of raffle tickets you get on the amount of Income Tax you Pay the IRS each Year.

With more people being elected to government that think everything should be privatized, is there anyone in government that would support such an idea? The common reasons for having raffles are to raise money, the government doesn't need any new ways of giving it away.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
rdgrnr

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Apr 9, 2011, 4:47 pm

Quote: Originally posted by GASMETERGUY on Apr 9, 2011
What about those who don't pay income tax? How would they get their tickets (and believe me, they WILL get their tickets)?

Not if Bush and Cheney steal them all to give to the CEO of Halliburton.

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