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joker17

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May 18, 2011, 12:02 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JosephusMinimus on May 18, 2011
Joker17: We're all able to back up our delusions, Joker. That's what makes them delusions. Internally flawed logic takes the 5th anytime it's asked to testify against itself.

Hang on to your certainties. We all have them.

I disagree 173 %...

I know what the other side's arguments are.

I'm not going to pursue this any further. If you wanna debate this, then start a blog. If we continue, it'll get deleted eventually, so I'm out...

Believe what you want to believe....
JosephusMinimus

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May 18, 2011, 12:24 pm

Quote: Originally posted by joker17 on May 18, 2011
I disagree 173 %...

I know what the other side's arguments are.

I'm not going to pursue this any further. If you wanna debate this, then start a blog. If we continue, it'll get deleted eventually, so I'm out...

Believe what you want to believe....

I agree 173% Joker. Perfect balance. Nothing in the world, nothing in either of our lives would change an iota if you and I agreed. Any more than it changes as a result of our disagreeing.

I do believe what I want to believe, just as you do, did before you granted your permission for me to do it. My life's better, though, for your having granted it.

You're evidently more emotionally involved in this series of posts than I am. I thought we were having a fun, friendly discussion with background smiles. I suppose you see it differentlly. Pumpi's threads ought to be approached with a smile

Pumpi: Hang in there and talk to someone about getting on payroll with the lotteries.
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May 18, 2011, 2:40 pm

Who continues to play after not winning at first? Pretty much every major lottery winner.
JosephusMinimus

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May 21, 2011, 6:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JosephusMinimus on May 18, 2011
Pumpi: For most people who got their higher degrees in psychology by watching Opra anyone who views the world differently than they, themselves view it is delusional. You happen to view the world differently than a greater percentage of the rest of the population view it, so probably more people would tend to consider you delusional than the average.

But delusional world views and behaviors aren't a matter decided by popular vote. Even a lot of people who finished high school, including a few of those who've called you delusional, haven't kept up on the literature on the subject well enough to be able do diagnose the condition. Unless there's been something recently on Opra or one of the cops and robbers shows recently.

As for making a living off the lottery, lottery employees make a great living off the lottery and don't have to work hard doing it. Some of them hang out on LP. You might ask them how to get on the payroll.

I meant to write this several days from now.
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May 23, 2011, 4:43 pm

Quote: Originally posted by joker17 on May 18, 2011
I disagree 173 %...

I know what the other side's arguments are.

I'm not going to pursue this any further. If you wanna debate this, then start a blog. If we continue, it'll get deleted eventually, so I'm out...

Believe what you want to believe....

"Believe what you want to believe...."

Yes, and why shouldn't we?

That was a defining principle in the founding of this country.

There are people though who still persecute, ridicule or call into question those who believe in God or are guided by religious principles.

Hard to believe, isn't it?
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May 23, 2011, 5:21 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on May 14, 2011
Guys why create a game if lets say you cant live off the lottery...A good percentage like half the lotto players [that´s 50% of lotto players] chase the lottery because they will like to live off the lottery, yet YOU CANT DO THAT THE STATE WILL NOT ALLOW IT, first thing they will tell you is the lottery is not a wellfare program or layoff insurance...

thats like saying see but dont touch...

for example many people will like for example to win pick4 straight every weekend and live off of that but you cant do that....if you have a very good system try doing it and you will see...

So why create the lottto or play the lotto in the first place....Because then thats not a game/lotto that plain street begging....

i meant to write this like 8 months ago...

What are you even talking about? Who cares if someone wins and lives off of the winnings and is broke anyother time, or if they already have money and just like to win more money? If someone is on food stamps and welfare, and they take the gamble to win, good for them if they win! They will spend more the next time they play probably and maybe pay some bills too. I like to put large amounts of money on one number, and when I cash them in I take them a few different places, because I don't want anyone seeing me walk away with 5 or 10 grand from one place. Just play and have fun, know your limits and mine your own business.

People also need to realize that the lottery draw (live ones anyways) are simply random and it's a plastic ball with a friggin' number on it. Nothing can determine what's going to hit. If a state has the drawing where it's done by a RNG, I for sure think something is behind that and a system can be figured it out. It's not random. So I play my favorite numbers at nite where I live (PA) and I spend lots of time looking over the day draw to pick what I think are the best combos. I have won many times and so far the state hasn't knocked on my door telling me what to do with the winnings. This is a hobby to my 9-5 job, and as of late has become more of a job because I am winning more frequently and getting PAID thanks to the help of some fellow LotteryPost users.
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May 23, 2011, 7:00 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on May 18, 2011
iglen said:

What makes you think that the state will not allow lottery winners to live off their winnings? People who win large jackpots do it all the time.

my reply:

TRY DOING IT...not talking about single jackpots...talking about multiple jackpots, like in Pick3/Pick4...Try it...

Of course you can't live off of Pick3/4, it's ridiculous to think that anyone could. But thats not because the state/lottery won't allow you, it's the odds that prevent it.
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May 23, 2011, 7:36 pm

i meant to reply 28 days ago but i forgot what i was going to say.
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May 24, 2011, 4:03 pm

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on May 14, 2011
Guys why create a game if lets say you cant live off the lottery...A good percentage like half the lotto players [that´s 50% of lotto players] chase the lottery because they will like to live off the lottery, yet YOU CANT DO THAT THE STATE WILL NOT ALLOW IT, first thing they will tell you is the lottery is not a wellfare program or layoff insurance...

thats like saying see but dont touch...

for example many people will like for example to win pick4 straight every weekend and live off of that but you cant do that....if you have a very good system try doing it and you will see...

So why create the lottto or play the lotto in the first place....Because then thats not a game/lotto that plain street begging....

i meant to write this like 8 months ago...

"A good percentage like half the lotto players [that´s 50% of lotto players] chase the lottery because they will like to live off the lottery"

It's probably more like 99% of lotto players chase a dream they can live off the winnings. You can't win if you don't play so the only question is how much is that dream worth.

"for example many people will like for example to win pick4 straight every weekend and live off of that"

If you need $250,000 a year to live off, salute but that makes for a very difficult attainable goal especially by relying on the daily games. You changed direction by comparing how much is necessary to live off. Between PB, MM, and state lotto games every week we get a tiny chance at winning multi-millions. You can get $5000 a week for about the next 40 years on a one time win of $10 million after taxes without getting any interest. You need over 2000 weekly taxable pick-4 wins to get the same.

The lottery gives us a chance to win $5000 or more twice a day, but that requires finding a realistic way of beating odds of 9999 to 1 against us as many posters have said. If you think it's possible fine, but don't blame the lotteries when you fail.

It's an imaginary $250,000 a year carrot you see dangling in front of the daily game rabbits. Lower your "live off" expectations to $1000 a week and you may get a reasonable discussion.
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May 25, 2011, 8:56 am

Quote: Originally posted by pumpi76 on May 14, 2011
Guys why create a game if lets say you cant live off the lottery...A good percentage like half the lotto players [that´s 50% of lotto players] chase the lottery because they will like to live off the lottery, yet YOU CANT DO THAT THE STATE WILL NOT ALLOW IT, first thing they will tell you is the lottery is not a wellfare program or layoff insurance...

thats like saying see but dont touch...

for example many people will like for example to win pick4 straight every weekend and live off of that but you cant do that....if you have a very good system try doing it and you will see...

So why create the lottto or play the lotto in the first place....Because then thats not a game/lotto that plain street begging....

i meant to write this like 8 months ago...

What the hell are you talking about? Your post dosen't make sense. What are you trying to say?

If you think you can or if you think you can't you are right!

Today could be the day!
rdgrnr

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May 25, 2011, 2:12 pm

Quote: Originally posted by sunjune6 on May 25, 2011
What the hell are you talking about? Your post dosen't make sense. What are you trying to say?

Can't expect him to remember everything.

That was just a brief synopsis of what he meant to say 8 months ago.

Not bad for an 8 month lag-time.

I can't remember what I was thinking 5 minutes ago.
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May 25, 2011, 2:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by sunjune6 on May 25, 2011
What the hell are you talking about? Your post dosen't make sense. What are you trying to say?

He overdosed on cough syrup, he's trying to catch his breath, leave him alone...
Texas Joey

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May 25, 2011, 6:59 pm

My openion is "why don't the lotteries do what they say they will do?" They say they will help build new schools here in Texas. Instead they a closing them down. I think the Lottery Money stays in Austin in Lotteries pockets.

They show have a Tax Free Lottery like Canada does. What you see is what you get there.

If they can't do that, then stop the prize money from getting too high and just pay the taxes, so we can win what it says. Then not have to worry about Taxes.
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May 25, 2011, 7:08 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Texas Joey on May 25, 2011
My openion is "why don't the lotteries do what they say they will do?" They say they will help build new schools here in Texas. Instead they a closing them down. I think the Lottery Money stays in Austin in Lotteries pockets.

They show have a Tax Free Lottery like Canada does. What you see is what you get there.

If they can't do that, then stop the prize money from getting too high and just pay the taxes, so we can win what it says. Then not have to worry about Taxes.

They show have a Tax Free Lottery like Canada does. What you see is what you get there.

For most players our lotteries are tax free, it's just the 0.02% that win $600 or more that play taxes.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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May 25, 2011, 7:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on May 25, 2011
They show have a Tax Free Lottery like Canada does. What you see is what you get there.

For most players our lotteries are tax free, it's just the 0.02% that win $600 or more that play taxes.

Uh-oh, KYFloyd ain't gonna like the sound of that.

Probably on the phone with the IRS now.

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