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If Quickpicks are random like the Mechanical Lottery Ball Machine

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Posted: June 9, 2011, 2:01 am - IP Logged

My QuickPicks always look funny but I don't think much of it.

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    Posted: June 9, 2011, 4:24 pm - IP Logged

    Will the quik pick computer spit out duplicate numbers before it runs through all possible combo's?

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      Posted: June 10, 2011, 2:26 pm - IP Logged

      I also dont like the fact that Quick Picks can pull the same numbers for both standard and bonus numbers on the same play, basically meaning it's very rare for that to happen (Ie: you have white and money ball numbers of the same number) in a drawing.

       

      Has anyone determined/discuss the Pros and Cons and Advantages vs. Advantages  of hand picking vs. quick picks, Has a study been conducted how often quick picks win or what method has more winners?

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        Posted: June 10, 2011, 4:03 pm - IP Logged

        So, I won a Take 5 QP from the Instant Take 5 game, and since the NY Lottery is having a "buy $10 get 3 QP free" special, I played that.

        All four Quick Picks have consecutive numbers. Two of them have 3 numbers in a row....

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          Posted: June 10, 2011, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

          So, I won a Take 5 QP from the Instant Take 5 game, and since the NY Lottery is having a "buy $10 get 3 QP free" special, I played that.

          All four Quick Picks have consecutive numbers. Two of them have 3 numbers in a row....

          That bites.

          Nothing you can do about it though. They'll tell you it's possible and it happens which it is and does.

          But it still bites.

          Sure sounds kinda fishy though, just the Quick Picks... hmm...

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            Posted: June 10, 2011, 4:15 pm - IP Logged

            Will the quik pick computer spit out duplicate numbers before it runs through all possible combo's?

            Yep, if it's truly random, the odds are it will.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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              Posted: June 10, 2011, 4:23 pm - IP Logged

              For what game?

              I think he's talking about the MM, Jade.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                Posted: June 10, 2011, 4:59 pm - IP Logged

                Remember that whether a quick pick is random or not has nothing to do with whether it can win.  I have a consistent set of numbers and rarely play quick picks.  My numbers aren't random; they're related to each other mathematically.  This doesn't make them bad numbers; they're equally as likely to win as the set of numbers on the last ticket that won the jackpot.  I don't play a particular set of numbers because I think it makes it more likely that I'll win, but because if (when) I win, I want those numbers to be the ones I win with.

                A consecutive pattern might be objectionable because it's rarely drawn, but the only reason it's objectionable is because it's easy to identify.  A different pattern that's harder to identify, such as squares (2, 4, 9, 16...) times the square root of pi minus anything after the decimal minus an increasing number (1, 2, 3, 4...) is just as likely to happen, but that pattern wouldn't be identified or found objectionable.  But that pattern is no more or less likely to be drawn than 1 2 3 4 5 6.  Numbers that appear random may simply be in a pattern that's difficult to identify.

                My point is that the only "good" numbers are the ones that match the numbers drawn.  The intent is that any set of numbers has an equal chance of being drawn, so any other assessment of the quality of numbers on a ticket is meaningless.  You can't identify "good" or "bad" numbers until after the drawing has taken place.

                "My point is that the only "good" numbers are the ones that match the numbers drawn."

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                  Posted: June 10, 2011, 5:18 pm - IP Logged

                  Keep in mind that the Quick Picks random number generator built into lottery machines are not very good.  They will often produce combinations with similar number patterns.  Quick Picks are meant to be quick, not great.

                  You will find lottery machines' Quick Picks to be as random as most of the random number genetors found on various web sites.  They use the common random feature built into every program language -- which by definition generates patterns of numbers based on the count of an internal CPU clock.  In fact, they are properly referred to as "pseudo-random number generators", because the numbers are not truly random.

                  That's one of the reasons I built the Lottery Post Quick Picks Generator, which uses an advanced cryptographic code library to generate numbers that are more truly random -- not patterns of numbers seeded off an internal clock.

                  "Keep in mind that the Quick Picks random number generator built into lottery machines are not very good.  They will often produce combinations with similar number patterns.  Quick Picks are meant to be quick, not great."

                  I've used the LP Quick Picks Generator for comparison and noticed a more balanced number distribution than I see with a like number of QPs. It's not uncommon to see many numbers found on multiple lines with purchased QPs or three or four consecutive numbers.

                  The next time someone says "the LP QPs Generator is the same as purchased QPs", I going to quote you.Wink


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                    Posted: June 10, 2011, 6:20 pm - IP Logged

                    If I were Todd, knowing the way many of my clientele think, I would program my QuickPicker to discard the randomly generated sets that are likely to be perceived as non-random.  Wink

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                      If I were Todd, knowing the way many of my clientele think, I would program my QuickPicker to discard the randomly generated sets that are likely to be perceived as non-random.  Wink

                      But you're not Todd, you're Nancy, a malcontented ne'er-do-well with a condescending attitude.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Well this is weird, I just got back from buying 3 Hoosier Lotto tickets for Saturday.  One was a self pick, the other two are QPs.  The funny thing is on the two QPs I have 4 of my self pick numbers appear plus a couple of other shared numbers.  So I have 6 numbers across three slips that are repeated once.

                        So what do you guys think?  Should I get one more ticket with all the 6 repeated numbers or is the machine really just screwing around with me?

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                          Well this is weird, I just got back from buying 3 Hoosier Lotto tickets for Saturday.  One was a self pick, the other two are QPs.  The funny thing is on the two QPs I have 4 of my self pick numbers appear plus a couple of other shared numbers.  So I have 6 numbers across three slips that are repeated once.

                          So what do you guys think?  Should I get one more ticket with all the 6 repeated numbers or is the machine really just screwing around with me?

                          I say go for it, it's only a buck.

                          As long as it don't put a crimp on yer whiskey money, that is.

                          A man's got to know his limitations.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

                          "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                            Posted: June 17, 2011, 5:01 pm - IP Logged

                            Well this is weird, I just got back from buying 3 Hoosier Lotto tickets for Saturday.  One was a self pick, the other two are QPs.  The funny thing is on the two QPs I have 4 of my self pick numbers appear plus a couple of other shared numbers.  So I have 6 numbers across three slips that are repeated once.

                            So what do you guys think?  Should I get one more ticket with all the 6 repeated numbers or is the machine really just screwing around with me?

                            Repeats can be a good thing too.

                            It just depends on the luck of the draw, don't you think?

                            I find that, over time, it "all comes out in the wash!"

                             

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                              Posted: June 17, 2011, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                              I caved in and bought a 4th ticket w/ the 6 repeating numbers from the other three.  This should be interesting.  If this 4th ticket wins, not only will I win the jackpot but I will also win a couple of pari-mutuel prizes and $3 along with it.

                               

                              Heh heh/