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Posted: August 25, 2011, 10:46 am - IP Logged

Very old news.  Here's a much better story from last week:

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security/2011/08/16/internet-explorer-tops-browser-security-tests-40093698/

 

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    Posted: August 25, 2011, 4:18 pm - IP Logged

    I use Safari, but you need a GOOD computer to run it.

    Micro$oft free since 2/17/2000 and loving it!

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      Posted: August 26, 2011, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

      I got a score of 6126 using FireFox 6.0

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        Posted: August 26, 2011, 12:54 pm - IP Logged

        I got a score of 6126 using FireFox 6.0

        Ran it again to get a screen shot and got slightly higher results.

         

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          Posted: August 26, 2011, 1:07 pm - IP Logged

          IE-8 is for Windows XP so by comparison your machine is probably much slower. Some manufactures did offer XP as an option after Windows Vista came out and their results could be slightly better. IE-9 is much faster but XP users can't use it.

          Which Browser is Lottery Post Optimized for?

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            Posted: August 26, 2011, 1:21 pm - IP Logged

            deja vu?

            I know I saw that link somewhere... HA!  That's right, 1st page of this thread, my post, 7th one down!  Wink

            For security, Internet Explorer 9 is the best.

            Aug 16, 2011 article
            Internet Explorer tops browser security tests | Security | ZDNet UK: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security/2011/08/16/internet-explorer-tops-browser-security-tests-40093698/
               

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              Posted: August 26, 2011, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

              Which Browser is Lottery Post Optimized for?

              Lottery Post is optimized for:

              • IE 9
              • Google Chrome
              • Firefox 5+
              • Safari 5+
              Also regularly tested with:
              • IE 8
              • Opera 11+
              • iPhone
              • iPad
              • Android 2.2+ — Coming soon: Android Honeycomb (Android tablets)
              • webOS 3+ (HP TouchPad tablet)

               

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                Posted: August 27, 2011, 1:14 am - IP Logged

                It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about.  Your comments are dangerous because you take a real topic (ad tracking) and try to make people believe that posting content at Lottery Post has anything to do with it.

                You are flat-out wrong.  I hope you are simply misinformed, and not purposely lying to people here.

                "Ad tracking" occurs on every single web site on the Internet that shows ads.  It is simply a means for advertisers to be able to show advertisements that the individual is interested in seeing.

                Any ad tracking that occurs is done completely by the advertiser, not by Lottery Post.  Moreover, the advertisers do not have access to personal stuff like your e-mail address, password, content you post, private messages you send -- nothing.  That's because all web browsers have security mechanisms built-in that prohibit third party content (like advertisements) from accessing any page content and/or internal information (like cookies) from the domain you are viewing (i.e., Lottery Post).

                Plugins like "Ghostery" will allow you to see the advertising trackers.  I am sure the paranoid among us will try to disable trackers, and I guess they will make themselves feel very smart for doing so.  However, the balanced among us know that ad trackers are harmless and are not a manifestation of "Big Brother" -- they are simply a means for advertisers to show you ads that you are more likely to click on, because they are related to things you are interested in.

                TRULY paranoid types will also disable cookies on their computer.  And then they won't be able to use Lottery Post, because like most sites with login capability, Lottery Post relies upon cookies.  Again, the balanced among us understand that cookies are also harmless, and not a manifestation of "Big Brother". 

                I would greatly appreciate if any additional posts here would not continue to steer things off-topic by suggesting falsely that Lottery Post is "tracking you" or by continuing into other paranoid realms.  I believe the topic pertains to browser performance, so let's please stay on-topic.

                And regarding browser performance, Google Chrome is (IMHO) the best web browser, based not only upon its stellar performance, but also on its simple and streamlined interface, its security (the first browser to run both Flash and Adobe Reader in a "sandbox"), and the fact that it automatically and silently updates itself.

                Internet Explorer has made tremendous improvements in version 9, and the upcoming version 10 will be even better.  Even though my #1 choice is Google Chrome, I have no problems recommending that anyone use IE9 as their primary browser, it's that good.

                It seems the original author of this thread is stuck on Widnows XP, and the best thing any Windows XP user could do to improve their situation is to upgrade to Windows 7.  Once on Windows 7, a variety of modern software and technology is at your disposal, and you are no longer limited in your choices.  You will also be far more secure than you are today, once you upgrade to Windows 7.  Windows XP is a decade old, and has many security holes.  Use the link in a previous post by Jarasan to see if your PC is upgradable to Windows 7.

                I still haven't been able to discover what is wrong with IE-8 that causes it to perform so miserably compared to all the others.

                Do you have any ideas?

                As far as XP is concerned, I'm "stuck" on it in a way someone might be "stuck" on their 10 year old Camry that serves them well.  That said, if you'd like to send me a copy of Windows 7 Pro with a clean license, I'll gladly install it on one of my machines!

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                  Posted: August 27, 2011, 3:11 am - IP Logged

                  It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about.  Your comments are dangerous because you take a real topic (ad tracking) and try to make people believe that posting content at Lottery Post has anything to do with it.

                  You are flat-out wrong.  I hope you are simply misinformed, and not purposely lying to people here.

                  "Ad tracking" occurs on every single web site on the Internet that shows ads.  It is simply a means for advertisers to be able to show advertisements that the individual is interested in seeing.

                  Any ad tracking that occurs is done completely by the advertiser, not by Lottery Post.  Moreover, the advertisers do not have access to personal stuff like your e-mail address, password, content you post, private messages you send -- nothing.  That's because all web browsers have security mechanisms built-in that prohibit third party content (like advertisements) from accessing any page content and/or internal information (like cookies) from the domain you are viewing (i.e., Lottery Post).

                  Plugins like "Ghostery" will allow you to see the advertising trackers.  I am sure the paranoid among us will try to disable trackers, and I guess they will make themselves feel very smart for doing so.  However, the balanced among us know that ad trackers are harmless and are not a manifestation of "Big Brother" -- they are simply a means for advertisers to show you ads that you are more likely to click on, because they are related to things you are interested in.

                  TRULY paranoid types will also disable cookies on their computer.  And then they won't be able to use Lottery Post, because like most sites with login capability, Lottery Post relies upon cookies.  Again, the balanced among us understand that cookies are also harmless, and not a manifestation of "Big Brother". 

                  I would greatly appreciate if any additional posts here would not continue to steer things off-topic by suggesting falsely that Lottery Post is "tracking you" or by continuing into other paranoid realms.  I believe the topic pertains to browser performance, so let's please stay on-topic.

                  And regarding browser performance, Google Chrome is (IMHO) the best web browser, based not only upon its stellar performance, but also on its simple and streamlined interface, its security (the first browser to run both Flash and Adobe Reader in a "sandbox"), and the fact that it automatically and silently updates itself.

                  Internet Explorer has made tremendous improvements in version 9, and the upcoming version 10 will be even better.  Even though my #1 choice is Google Chrome, I have no problems recommending that anyone use IE9 as their primary browser, it's that good.

                  It seems the original author of this thread is stuck on Widnows XP, and the best thing any Windows XP user could do to improve their situation is to upgrade to Windows 7.  Once on Windows 7, a variety of modern software and technology is at your disposal, and you are no longer limited in your choices.  You will also be far more secure than you are today, once you upgrade to Windows 7.  Windows XP is a decade old, and has many security holes.  Use the link in a previous post by Jarasan to see if your PC is upgradable to Windows 7.

                  And regarding browser performance, Google Chrome is (IMHO) the best web browser, based not only upon its stellar performance, but also on its simple and streamlined interface, its security (the first browser to run both Flash and Adobe Reader in a "sandbox"), and the fact that it automatically and silently updates itself.

                  I would consider that invasive.  If I don't tell my computer to alter a program, then I don't want it altered.  I also don't want to give Google more information than I already do.  Google insists that a Google Plus account must use your real name (at least that is the current rule they have in place).  You already give your real name online - so that isn't a problem with you.  However, there is a huge portion of the population that does not want their real name online.  And a huge portion of the population that doesn't want Google getting into their private lives.  (Just my opinion).

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                    Posted: August 27, 2011, 7:43 am - IP Logged

                    I don't care too much about milliseconds of difference in browser speeds.  I do wish I could still use Firefox 2, though.  I liked it because it was dumb.  I told it what to do, and it obeyed.

                    The newer versions are smart.  They try to figure me out, predict what I want, and suggest what it thinks I'm looking for.  Some options have even been removed, so that instead of being customizable, the browser figures out settings for me and I have no option to change them.  The other browsers have gotten smarter, too.  I like Firefox a lot less now, but, for me, it's the least bad of the pack.  I wish I had a dumb browser that did what it was told instead of telling me what it thinks I want, but could keep up with modern web features.

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                      Posted: August 27, 2011, 8:32 am - IP Logged

                      I still haven't been able to discover what is wrong with IE-8 that causes it to perform so miserably compared to all the others.

                      Do you have any ideas?

                      As far as XP is concerned, I'm "stuck" on it in a way someone might be "stuck" on their 10 year old Camry that serves them well.  That said, if you'd like to send me a copy of Windows 7 Pro with a clean license, I'll gladly install it on one of my machines!

                      Windows XP is more like a 10-year old Hyundai.

                      Like cars, if you don't get a new one, your old one gets worse and worse until it will no longer run.

                      And like a car, I won't buy you a new copy of Windows 7 either.  It's up to you to budget the $100 for a Windows 7 license to make your computer better.

                      IE 8 doesn't perform "miserably".  It performs pretty good -- for the time period it was built in.  It's OLD TECHNOLOGY now.  That's why PEOPLE UPGRADE.

                      If you want to constantly be stuck with old technology because it's "comfortable" to you, then you will always be living in the slow lane.  Some people are OK with that.  I'm not one of them myself.

                       

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                        Posted: August 27, 2011, 8:35 am - IP Logged

                        And regarding browser performance, Google Chrome is (IMHO) the best web browser, based not only upon its stellar performance, but also on its simple and streamlined interface, its security (the first browser to run both Flash and Adobe Reader in a "sandbox"), and the fact that it automatically and silently updates itself.

                        I would consider that invasive.  If I don't tell my computer to alter a program, then I don't want it altered.  I also don't want to give Google more information than I already do.  Google insists that a Google Plus account must use your real name (at least that is the current rule they have in place).  You already give your real name online - so that isn't a problem with you.  However, there is a huge portion of the population that does not want their real name online.  And a huge portion of the population that doesn't want Google getting into their private lives.  (Just my opinion).

                        Google's "real name" policy in their Google+ service has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Google Chrome browser. 

                        The fact that a piece of software keeps itself updated is a GOOD THING.  How you could twist that into something evil is beyond me. 

                        Installing the Chrome Web browser doesn't "let Google into your private life".  That's just preposterous.

                         

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                          Posted: August 27, 2011, 8:39 am - IP Logged

                          I don't care too much about milliseconds of difference in browser speeds.  I do wish I could still use Firefox 2, though.  I liked it because it was dumb.  I told it what to do, and it obeyed.

                          The newer versions are smart.  They try to figure me out, predict what I want, and suggest what it thinks I'm looking for.  Some options have even been removed, so that instead of being customizable, the browser figures out settings for me and I have no option to change them.  The other browsers have gotten smarter, too.  I like Firefox a lot less now, but, for me, it's the least bad of the pack.  I wish I had a dumb browser that did what it was told instead of telling me what it thinks I want, but could keep up with modern web features.

                          We're back into a period of "browser wars", in which the major browser brands are fighting to capture market share.

                          Google Chrome on IE 9 are the browsers that currently have the least amount of "frills" on the interface.  I like them because they are "minimial" interfaces.  Maybe one of those would be more to your liking.

                           

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                            Windows XP is more like a 10-year old Hyundai.

                            Like cars, if you don't get a new one, your old one gets worse and worse until it will no longer run.

                            And like a car, I won't buy you a new copy of Windows 7 either.  It's up to you to budget the $100 for a Windows 7 license to make your computer better.

                            IE 8 doesn't perform "miserably".  It performs pretty good -- for the time period it was built in.  It's OLD TECHNOLOGY now.  That's why PEOPLE UPGRADE.

                            If you want to constantly be stuck with old technology because it's "comfortable" to you, then you will always be living in the slow lane.  Some people are OK with that.  I'm not one of them myself.

                            "Like cars, if you don't get a new one, your old one gets worse and worse until it will no longer run."

                            This is true when the manufacturer engineers it to become obsolete.

                            When IE-8 performs at a rate roughly 1/9 of its contemporary, Firefox 3, on their home court, XP, "miserably" doesn't seem that far off the mark to me.  I'm still curious about what the main change was that brought about the dramatic improvement in speed from IE-8 to IE-9.  I know I could check at Microsoft.com but I just thought I'd ask here first.

                            BTW, It doesn't cost me anything to upgrade my FreeBSD machine.

                            Be careful in that fast lane!

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                              "Like cars, if you don't get a new one, your old one gets worse and worse until it will no longer run."

                              This is true when the manufacturer engineers it to become obsolete.

                              When IE-8 performs at a rate roughly 1/9 of its contemporary, Firefox 3, on their home court, XP, "miserably" doesn't seem that far off the mark to me.  I'm still curious about what the main change was that brought about the dramatic improvement in speed from IE-8 to IE-9.  I know I could check at Microsoft.com but I just thought I'd ask here first.

                              BTW, It doesn't cost me anything to upgrade my FreeBSD machine.

                              Be careful in that fast lane!

                              Yeah, check with Microsoft.  Maybe they'll inform you of the incorrect "1/9th" number you're providing.

                              You go, FreeBSD user, you go!

                               

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