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MrMtnDewGalant's avatar - Lottery-050.jpg
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Posted: December 21, 2011, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

im betting the house tonight on 2 digit guarantee, i just need the right 2 digits

thinking a double but afther missing out on this easy win today 978,I had 932 and 786 both exact didn't flip or mirror was in a rush,I like another double to come out

I want stack's on stack's leggo!

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    Posted: December 21, 2011, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

                                 December  Fat Cat List

                                                  Good luck!

                                     789 is here boxed for today!

                                   Congrats to all of the winners!Drum

           234 235 236 237 238 239 245 246 247 248 249 256 257 258 259

         267 268 269 278 279 289 345 346 347 348 349 356 357 358 359

         367 368 369 378 379 389 456 457 458 459 467 468 469 478 479

                      489 567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

                         119 219 319 419 519 619 719 819 919 019

                         116 216 316 416 516 616 716 816 916 016

                                  223 332 017 000 011 100 111

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      Posted: December 21, 2011, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

      winners

      978

      0642

      Me & the  Fat Cat are happy one more time!

      I should have played this for a dollar but didn't want to give them but $5 back of my $80 from last night.

      I felt good about this one too...hoping maybe my luck is back!Big Grin Angel

      Congrats to all other winners!

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        Posted: December 21, 2011, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

        978 Often Followed by:

        (041 410) 052 056 057 061 125 154 158 (294 492) 296 305
        351 392 397 468 517 590 617 623 (639) 690 708 709 734 756 759 783 839 876 (895) 918 (921) (928)

        Doubles:

        422 (677 766) 773

        Historical Book Predictions: 067 (192) (289) 346 511 619 641 730 814 (895) (936)

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          Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:00 pm - IP Logged

          Me & the  Fat Cat are happy one more time!

          I should have played this for a dollar but didn't want to give them but $5 back of my $80 from last night.

          I felt good about this one too...hoping maybe my luck is back!Big Grin Angel

          Congrats to all other winners!

          wtg congrat's on your win today

          I want stack's on stack's leggo!

            Vergie6's avatar - DSCN5541
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            Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:05 pm - IP Logged

            Cheating is a matter of perspective.  According to your definition (my understanding based on what you've consistently posted about in the NC thread as well as other state threads since I've been here) - ANYTHING that a lottery does aside from pull balls from machines is cheating. 

            I argue that it is the lotteries' right to "bust patterns" and rotate ballsets to do so.  I do not agree with the popular notion that the pre-draws are recorded and measured against the potential payout.  THAT, in my opinion, is cheating. 

            Your arguments regarding statistical anomalies come across as if there is just one single ballset in use.  The pre-draws on the TX site show just how often they're rotated out.  Statistically, I can understand if there's a single ballset and your arguments regarding hidden data and missing structures then become valid.  But there's not a single set in use - probably as few as 6 sets (1 for each machine) and just as many "spare" machines.

            If you want to talk about triples in pre-draws, look back through TX - they're on almost 400 draws without one in a "live" drawing, yet I can remember at LEAST 6 times since this summer they've hit the pre-draws.  That doesn't necessarily mean that the lottery is purposefully withholding them.  And in almost every instance, I saw where the ballset was pulled - because out of the 4 pre-draws for one set, 2 of the same number came out.  I always keep an eye on those in TX because if I'm playing something off a pattern I saw and it hits in the pre-draw, I don't bother spending my money.

            Am I suggesting that the lottery is totally blameless?  Absolutely not.  BUT, I think you make a bigger deal out of standard practice for every lottery across the country than you need to.  They don't have to give you anything, and they don't have to make it easier on you to run your statistics.  That's where I disagree with the "burned lottery player" mentality. 

            Maybe it's because I have a finance background that I don't view things with the gimlet eye that you do.  My focus is in analysis, and I understand that there are random events and other factors that go into what should otherwise be a perfect model.  There are outside factors that will influence the trend you are trying to predict. 

            The question is - can you hit any better/win more with the data that you argue NCEL is hiding?  What's your record in TX, where they release that info on a regular basis?  Until you can prove to me that you do better in TX, I won't agree that NCEL is doing anything out of the ordinary causing you to lose more.

            I've gone a bit off track here, but the point comes back to this - is it cheating if they are not releasing their control procedures prior to each draw?  I argue no - simply because it's the constraints of the games as they are structured.  TX is the anomaly, not the norm.  To me, the argument that lotteries do nothing but cheat just doesn't hold water.  If you honestly and truly believe that - don't play it.  That simple.

            Thank you Swngnblues!  You hit the nail on the head!

            Very well said...Avlm posted something not long ago similar.

            Nobody forces us to play!

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              Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:06 pm - IP Logged

              wtg congrat's on your win today

              Thanks MrMtnDew!

              Good luck tonight!See Ya!

              One more thing...I tried to buy 555 today & it was sold out!

              I was a little worried it would hit just cause I couldn't get it...I'd have been sick!Crazy

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                Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

                i need a big hit tonight, so lets put our thinking caps on and work together

                Type EZ$

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                  Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:18 pm - IP Logged

                  i need a big hit tonight, so lets put our thinking caps on and work together

                  422 exact

                  I want stack's on stack's leggo!

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                    Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:31 pm - IP Logged

                    Just noticed 13 draws ago eve we had sum 13,17,17,20,then we had 5 more sums,15,17,12,11,18 and the last 4 sums 13,17,17,20... amazing...I still feel like they follow certain patterns....

                    300....622...703....269......936.......168....224.....335.......No Trips!!!!

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                      Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:49 pm - IP Logged

                      Just noticed 13 draws ago eve we had sum 13,17,17,20,then we had 5 more sums,15,17,12,11,18 and the last 4 sums 13,17,17,20... amazing...I still feel like they follow certain patterns....

                      You might be on to something BUDDY!!!

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                        Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

                        978 Often Followed by:

                        (041 410) 052 056 057 061 125 154 158 (294 492) 296 305
                        351 392 397 468 517 590 617 623 (639) 690 708 709 734 756 759 783 839 876 (895) 918 (921) (928)

                        Doubles:

                        422 (677 766) 773

                        Historical Book Predictions: 067 (192) (289) 346 511 619 641 730 814 (895) (936)

                        978 pairs: 00 01 10 11 20 21 30 31/88 89 80 83 84 85(LL PAIRS)

                        686 pairs: 71 72 81 82 91 92 01 02/59 50 51 54 55 56(LL PAIRS)

                        978 SCOOP

                        910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919

                        920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929

                        930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939

                        granny's rundown

                        978

                        224

                        470

                        716

                        962

                        208

                        follow-up numbers(029 249)

                        LB working numbers 978 114 897 336 019

                        SINGLE DIGIT (2) LAST SEEN (12) DRAWS AGO

                        (4) MORE DAYS TIL CHRISTMAS....GET THIS MONEY NC PLAYERSSun Smiley

                        Weezy

                         

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                          Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

                          Just noticed 13 draws ago eve we had sum 13,17,17,20,then we had 5 more sums,15,17,12,11,18 and the last 4 sums 13,17,17,20... amazing...I still feel like they follow certain patterns....

                          start back over with the same pattern....anything's worth a try...555(sum 15)Wink

                          Weezy

                           

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                            Posted: December 21, 2011, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

                            start back over with the same pattern....anything's worth a try...555(sum 15)Wink

                            Be reminded,  that the trip 5's were sold out in the midday-get them in early

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                              Posted: December 21, 2011, 6:00 pm - IP Logged

                              Be reminded,  that the trip 5's were sold out in the midday-get them in early

                              i'm not really a trip player....just made the suggestion for sum 15...but after really looking at it and seeing what hawgster posted...sum 15 would be the next in line with the pattern he pointed out...and if i had to play a sum 15...it would be 249

                              Weezy

                               

                                 
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