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Posted: December 21, 2011, 7:27 pm - IP Logged

Thanks Powerplay, yes she was getting mighty thin at that!

I just heard on the NC news tonight that the power ball tickets are going up from a dollar to two dollars on Jan. 15th & the first drawing will be on Jan. 18th....they said the chances would be a little better...if you can call it that...still not good enough for me to play it.

Good luck tonight!See Ya!Now let me go put my "thinking cap" on...hope it keeps working...holding my breath!

LMAO little better, whats that .00000000000001%......Gees us christ how could it get better,did they say they were gonna drop a # or tell altlaest 1 number in advance.......If its still 5 numbers and the top # 59,please tell me how is paying a $1 more gonna make the odds better or think its EASIER!!!!!

300....622...703....269......936.......168....224.....335.......No Trips!!!!

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    Posted: December 21, 2011, 7:29 pm - IP Logged

    LMAO little better, whats that .00000000000001%......Gees us christ how could it get better,did they say they were gonna drop a # or tell altlaest 1 number in advance.......If its still 5 numbers and the top # 59,please tell me how is paying a $1 more gonna make the odds better or think its EASIER!!!!!

    I think it's all a joke, just a way of carrying up the prizes and making you feel better but making phony statements.

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      Posted: December 21, 2011, 7:33 pm - IP Logged

      Hitt`em big everyone, I`m outta here, A cold one is calling me.....

      300....622...703....269......936.......168....224.....335.......No Trips!!!!

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        Posted: December 21, 2011, 8:02 pm - IP Logged

        Thanks Powerplay, yes she was getting mighty thin at that!

        I just heard on the NC news tonight that the power ball tickets are going up from a dollar to two dollars on Jan. 15th & the first drawing will be on Jan. 18th....they said the chances would be a little better...if you can call it that...still not good enough for me to play it.

        Good luck tonight!See Ya!Now let me go put my "thinking cap" on...hope it keeps working...holding my breath!

        Can someone explain how  "THEY" can make the chances a little better of a win for a person from playing with 2 dollars instead of 1 dollar....lol.... The only way they can do it is "CONTROL" the draw...Like they already do....Crooks !!!

        Your full of it NCEL...I will never play the Power Ball then, nor will a lot of people....

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          Posted: December 21, 2011, 8:10 pm - IP Logged

          LMAO little better, whats that .00000000000001%......Gees us christ how could it get better,did they say they were gonna drop a # or tell altlaest 1 number in advance.......If its still 5 numbers and the top # 59,please tell me how is paying a $1 more gonna make the odds better or think its EASIER!!!!!

          I think they're dropping a number on either the 1-59 set or the powerball set itself.  Odds are still astronomically high - I'm no better off buying 10 tickets than 1 ticket.  I just grab a single QP whenever I'm in the store.  My odds are roughly the same no matter what.

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            Posted: December 21, 2011, 9:26 pm - IP Logged

            978 straigt in my blog!  WTG winners!

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              Posted: December 21, 2011, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

              I would expect at least a pair from the set below tonight...

               

              040  043  041  090  093  091

              740  743  741  790  793  791

              140  143  141  190  193  191

              240  243  241  290  293  291

              Outside The Box...

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                Posted: December 21, 2011, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

                Cheating is a matter of perspective.  According to your definition (my understanding based on what you've consistently posted about in the NC thread as well as other state threads since I've been here) - ANYTHING that a lottery does aside from pull balls from machines is cheating. 

                I argue that it is the lotteries' right to "bust patterns" and rotate ballsets to do so.  I do not agree with the popular notion that the pre-draws are recorded and measured against the potential payout.  THAT, in my opinion, is cheating. 

                Your arguments regarding statistical anomalies come across as if there is just one single ballset in use.  The pre-draws on the TX site show just how often they're rotated out.  Statistically, I can understand if there's a single ballset and your arguments regarding hidden data and missing structures then become valid.  But there's not a single set in use - probably as few as 6 sets (1 for each machine) and just as many "spare" machines.

                If you want to talk about triples in pre-draws, look back through TX - they're on almost 400 draws without one in a "live" drawing, yet I can remember at LEAST 6 times since this summer they've hit the pre-draws.  That doesn't necessarily mean that the lottery is purposefully withholding them.  And in almost every instance, I saw where the ballset was pulled - because out of the 4 pre-draws for one set, 2 of the same number came out.  I always keep an eye on those in TX because if I'm playing something off a pattern I saw and it hits in the pre-draw, I don't bother spending my money.

                Am I suggesting that the lottery is totally blameless?  Absolutely not.  BUT, I think you make a bigger deal out of standard practice for every lottery across the country than you need to.  They don't have to give you anything, and they don't have to make it easier on you to run your statistics.  That's where I disagree with the "burned lottery player" mentality. 

                Maybe it's because I have a finance background that I don't view things with the gimlet eye that you do.  My focus is in analysis, and I understand that there are random events and other factors that go into what should otherwise be a perfect model.  There are outside factors that will influence the trend you are trying to predict. 

                The question is - can you hit any better/win more with the data that you argue NCEL is hiding?  What's your record in TX, where they release that info on a regular basis?  Until you can prove to me that you do better in TX, I won't agree that NCEL is doing anything out of the ordinary causing you to lose more.

                I've gone a bit off track here, but the point comes back to this - is it cheating if they are not releasing their control procedures prior to each draw?  I argue no - simply because it's the constraints of the games as they are structured.  TX is the anomaly, not the norm.  To me, the argument that lotteries do nothing but cheat just doesn't hold water.  If you honestly and truly believe that - don't play it.  That simple.

                Anytime the paying public cannot witness a live drawing without going through the things it takes to see someone locked up in Federal/State prison ...YES they are CHEATING . And if you believe other wise you must be able to swipe your badge to get in . Call and find out what it takes...everyone is talking about a predraw list , and not one about seeing a live drawing . Then and only then you can really throw out the b/s flag . This State (NC) stinks when it comes to pic 3, to think other wise you would have been or is SMOKING .

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                  Posted: December 21, 2011, 10:34 pm - IP Logged

                  digit 6 is on fire, good chance it could come back. i got mine in

                  EZ $makers --- check it out, daily hits for all states

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                    Posted: December 21, 2011, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

                    can we talk about winning numbers and not about things we have no control over, we all know ncel cheats, cmon give it a rest.  there are ways to beat them at their own game.  i win everyday, you better ask somebody

                    EZ $makers --- check it out, daily hits for all states

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                      Posted: December 21, 2011, 10:47 pm - IP Logged

                      if these comments and opinions aren't making it to ncel website, then you really aren't saying anything

                      EZ $makers --- check it out, daily hits for all states

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                        Posted: December 21, 2011, 11:02 pm - IP Logged

                        210/111/252-5x/293/

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                          Posted: December 21, 2011, 11:06 pm - IP Logged

                          if these comments and opinions aren't making it to ncel website, then you really aren't saying anything

                          Just ignor the the facts , remember .... no one is making you play . And yes  I hit today not just on paper , just being real .

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                            These are old pre test but I still like to see the numbers that fell. We had triples in the pre test.

                             

                            DrawDateGameDrawNoDrawTypeResult
                            15-Nov-11Pick33040Pre1365
                            15-Nov-11Pick33040Pre2634
                            15-Nov-11Pick33040Pre3035
                            15-Nov-11Pick33041Pre1712
                            15-Nov-11Pick33041Pre2968
                            15-Nov-11Pick33041Pre3646
                            16-Nov-11Pick33042Pre1984
                            16-Nov-11Pick33042Pre2154
                            16-Nov-11Pick33042Pre3642
                            16-Nov-11Pick33043Pre1560
                            16-Nov-11Pick33043Pre2752
                            16-Nov-11Pick33043Pre3071
                            17-Nov-11Pick33044Pre1947
                            17-Nov-11Pick33044Pre2088
                            17-Nov-11Pick33044Pre3133
                            17-Nov-11Pick33045Pre1527
                            17-Nov-11Pick33045Pre2072
                            17-Nov-11Pick33045Pre3167
                            18-Nov-11Pick33046Pre1072
                            18-Nov-11Pick33046Pre2019
                            18-Nov-11Pick33046Pre3941
                            18-Nov-11Pick33047Pre1610
                            18-Nov-11Pick33047Pre2319
                            18-Nov-11Pick33047Pre3965
                            19-Nov-11Pick33048Pre1753
                            19-Nov-11Pick33048Pre2385
                            19-Nov-11Pick33048Pre3532
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Pre1549
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Pre2845
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Pre3945
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Re-Pre11
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Re-Pre25
                            19-Nov-11Pick33049Re-Pre31
                            20-Nov-11Pick33050Pre1961
                            20-Nov-11Pick33050Pre2360
                            20-Nov-11Pick33050Pre3058
                            20-Nov-11Pick33051Pre1466
                            20-Nov-11Pick33051Pre2215
                            20-Nov-11Pick33051Pre3284
                            21-Nov-11Pick33052Pre1074
                            21-Nov-11Pick33052Pre2457
                            21-Nov-11Pick33052Pre3444
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Pre1409
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Pre2601
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Pre3806
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Re-Pre19
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Re-Pre24
                            21-Nov-11Pick33053Re-Pre39
                            22-Nov-11Pick33054Pre1141
                            22-Nov-11Pick33054Pre2719
                            22-Nov-11Pick33054Pre3710
                            22-Nov-11Pick33055Pre1933
                            22-Nov-11Pick33055Pre2775
                            22-Nov-11Pick33055Pre3343
                            23-Nov-11Pick33056Pre1292
                            23-Nov-11Pick33056Pre2229
                            23-Nov-11Pick33056Pre3763
                            23-Nov-11Pick33057Pre1636
                            23-Nov-11Pick33057Pre2772
                            23-Nov-11Pick33057Pre3647
                            24-Nov-11Pick33058Pre1524
                            24-Nov-11Pick33058Pre2565
                            24-Nov-11Pick33058Pre3099
                            24-Nov-11Pick33059Pre1658
                            24-Nov-11Pick33059Pre2809
                            24-Nov-11Pick33059Pre3221
                            25-Nov-11Pick33060Pre1421
                            25-Nov-11Pick33060Pre2608
                            25-Nov-11Pick33060Pre3422
                            25-Nov-11Pick33061Pre1123
                            25-Nov-11Pick33061Pre2084
                            25-Nov-11Pick33061Pre3924
                            26-Nov-11Pick33062Pre1399
                            26-Nov-11Pick33062Pre2087
                            26-Nov-11Pick33062Pre3862
                            26-Nov-11Pick33063Pre1728
                            26-Nov-11Pick33063Pre2480
                            26-Nov-11Pick33063Pre3005
                            27-Nov-11Pick33064Pre1980
                            27-Nov-11Pick33064Pre2126
                            27-Nov-11Pick33064Pre3457
                            27-Nov-11Pick33065Pre1024
                            27-Nov-11Pick33065Pre2394
                            27-Nov-11Pick33065Pre3981
                            28-Nov-11Pick33066Pre1259
                            28-Nov-11Pick33066Pre2855
                            28-Nov-11Pick33066Pre3046
                            28-Nov-11Pick33067Pre1259
                            28-Nov-11Pick33067Pre2571
                            28-Nov-11Pick33067Pre3558
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Pre1514
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Pre2014
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Pre3034
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Re-Pre17
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Re-Pre25
                            29-Nov-11Pick33068Re-Pre31
                            29-Nov-11Pick33069Pre1863
                            29-Nov-11Pick33069Pre2800
                            29-Nov-11Pick33069Pre3381
                            30-Nov-11Pick33070Pre1281
                            30-Nov-11Pick33070Pre2273
                            30-Nov-11Pick33070Pre3394
                            30-Nov-11Pick33071Pre1729
                            30-Nov-11Pick33071Pre2383
                            30-Nov-11Pick33071Pre3848
                            01-Dec-11Pick33072Pre1422
                            01-Dec-11Pick33072Pre2563
                            01-Dec-11Pick33072Pre3991
                            01-Dec-11Pick33073Pre1352
                            01-Dec-11Pick33073Pre2653
                            01-Dec-11Pick33073Pre3192
                            02-Dec-11Pick33074Pre1316
                            02-Dec-11Pick33074Pre2230
                            02-Dec-11Pick33074Pre3931
                            02-Dec-11Pick33075Pre1148
                            02-Dec-11Pick33075Pre2429
                            02-Dec-11Pick33075Pre3825
                            03-Dec-11Pick33076Pre1534
                            03-Dec-11Pick33076Pre2169
                            03-Dec-11Pick33076Pre3139
                            03-Dec-11Pick33077Pre1322
                            03-Dec-11Pick33077Pre2239
                            03-Dec-11Pick33077Pre3595
                            04-Dec-11Pick33078Pre1277
                            04-Dec-11Pick33078Pre2569
                            04-Dec-11Pick33078Pre3652
                            04-Dec-11Pick33079Pre1126
                            04-Dec-11Pick33079Pre2482
                            04-Dec-11Pick33079Pre3734
                            05-Dec-11Pick33080Pre1637
                            05-Dec-11Pick33080Pre2860
                            05-Dec-11Pick33080Pre3618
                            05-Dec-11Pick33081Pre1580
                            05-Dec-11Pick33081Pre2313
                            05-Dec-11Pick33081Pre3520
                            06-Dec-11Pick33082Pre1901
                            06-Dec-11Pick33082Pre2178
                            06-Dec-11Pick33082Pre3168
                            06-Dec-11Pick33083Pre1463
                            06-Dec-11Pick33083Pre2861
                            06-Dec-11Pick33083Pre3334
                            07-Dec-11Pick33084Pre1607
                            07-Dec-11Pick33084Pre2873
                            07-Dec-11Pick33084Pre3678
                            07-Dec-11Pick33085Pre1769
                            07-Dec-11Pick33085Pre2764
                            07-Dec-11Pick33085Pre3342
                            08-Dec-11Pick33086Pre1315
                            08-Dec-11Pick33086Pre2531
                            08-Dec-11Pick33086Pre3976
                            08-Dec-11Pick33087Pre1526
                            08-Dec-11Pick33087Pre2249
                            08-Dec-11Pick33087Pre3961
                            09-Dec-11Pick33088Pre1567
                            09-Dec-11Pick33088Pre2011
                            09-Dec-11Pick33088Pre3444
                            09-Dec-11Pick33089Pre1703
                            09-Dec-11Pick33089Pre2664
                            09-Dec-11Pick33089Pre3308
                            10-Dec-11Pick33090Pre1120
                            10-Dec-11Pick33090Pre2084
                            10-Dec-11Pick33090Pre3965
                            10-Dec-11Pick33091Pre1457
                            10-Dec-11Pick33091Pre2375
                            10-Dec-11Pick33091Pre3111
                            11-Dec-11Pick33092Pre1020
                            11-Dec-11Pick33092Pre2415
                            11-Dec-11Pick33092Pre3560
                            11-Dec-11Pick33093Pre1080
                            11-Dec-11Pick33093Pre2549
                            11-Dec-11Pick33093Pre3160
                            12-Dec-11Pick33094Pre1426
                            12-Dec-11Pick33094Pre2454
                            12-Dec-11Pick33094Pre3872
                            12-Dec-11Pick33095Pre1935
                            12-Dec-11Pick33095Pre2649
                            12-Dec-11Pick33095Pre3534
                            13-Dec-11Pick33096Pre1477
                            13-Dec-11Pick33096Pre2854
                            13-Dec-11Pick33096Pre3571
                            13-Dec-11Pick33097Pre1198
                            13-Dec-11Pick33097Pre2625
                            13-Dec-11Pick33097Pre3084
                            14-Dec-11Pick33098Pre1842
                            14-Dec-11Pick33098Pre2092
                            14-Dec-11Pick33098Pre3603
                            14-Dec-11Pick33099Pre1572
                            14-Dec-11Pick33099Pre2012
                            14-Dec-11Pick33099Pre3902
                            15-Dec-11Pick33100Pre1042
                            15-Dec-11Pick33100Pre2450
                            15-Dec-11Pick33100Pre3699
                            15-Dec-11Pick33101Pre1951
                            15-Dec-11Pick33101Pre2859
                            15-Dec-11Pick33101Pre3859
                            15-Dec-11Pick33101Re-Pre19
                            15-Dec-11Pick33101Re-Pre26

                            Mrsjay, the next time you ask for the predraws you need to ask for the list with the pretest with the actual live draw & the post test draw also.  They have the pretest then the live draw under that one then a post test draw so you will have all of the data.

                            A friend of mine who used to post on here and has ordered it a few times told me that is missing in yours.  If you don't ask them for it they won't give it to you.  They will just give you what you got, the pretest only.

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                              Posted: December 21, 2011, 11:24 pm - IP Logged

                              can we talk about winning numbers and not about things we have no control over, we all know ncel cheats, cmon give it a rest.  there are ways to beat them at their own game.  i win everyday, you better ask somebody

                              And no EZMONEE I don't hit everyday with NCEL I would have to be a mole to do that or cash to waste on 40 sets each day . Sorry if I hurt any posters or employees for the NCEL feeings .

                                 
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