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Handicapping The Pick 4

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Posted: April 2, 2012, 10:17 pm - IP Logged

Hi LottoChica:

 

I'm working on a revision that would write out the selections to a file.

 

jayemmar

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    Posted: April 9, 2012, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

    Hi Everyone:

     

    As a follow up to the test. The next five winners were:

    7096, 1499, 7756, 2498, 7795

    7096 was unlocked by 1689 and 2498 was unlocked by 2479.

    Not terribly bad.

     

    jayemmar

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      Posted: April 9, 2012, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

      Hi Everyone:

       

      As a follow up to the test. The next five winners were:

      7096, 1499, 7756, 2498, 7795

      7096 was unlocked by 1689 and 2498 was unlocked by 2479.

      Not terribly bad.

       

      jayemmar

      Hi, Jayemmar:

      Thanks for your great program for P4 Players! However, I have a questions:

      The below is you found 9 keys which are the Top three performing #s starting from 03/27/12 over the past 180 days.

              KEY          #WINNERS

      015820
      026818
      137918
      168918
      247918
      268918
      037817
      246917
      368917

      Then, we will get 9 X 32 =288 tickets as our bet for next days (maybe 8 or 10 days, we're still not sure,)

      This means we should at least pay $144.00 /drawing  for a no guaranteed win each day.

      Is it correct? Thanks for your sincere help!

      Best regards,

      lb

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        Posted: April 12, 2012, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

        Hi Everyone:

         

        I created a new program, which combines pretty much of the enhancements I was asked to include by several readers. The name of the program is called 4ToWin.exe. Download to the same working folder as the other files (Handicapping The Pick4) were downloaded to.

        1. Prepare a draws file of any length up to 1000 draws(still called drawsP4.txt).

        2. Click on the icon 4 ToWin.exe and you will be prompted to enter the minimum number of wins at which you want key unlocked winners for this draw file.

        If there aree no keys that unlocked the minimum number of winners, you will be told so, else open the selections.txt file and you'll see something like this:


        0238 - 3

        1338 1248 1239 0348
        0339 0249 9138 9228
        9237 0128 0137 0227
        1238 0338 0248 0239
        9238 0138 0228 0237
        1138 1228 1237 0328
        0337 0247 9338 9248
        9239 0148 0139 0229

        0248 - 3

        1348 1258 1249 0358
        0349 0259 9148 9238
        9247 0138 0147 0237
        1248 0348 0258 0249
        9248 0148 0238 0247
        1148 1238 1247 0338
        0347 0257 9348 9258
        9249 0158 0149 0239

        1238 - 4

        2338 2248 2239 1348
        1339 1249 0138 0228
        0237 1128 1137 1227
        2238 1338 1248 1239
        0238 1138 1228 1237
        2138 2228 2237 1328
        1337 1247 0338 0248
        0239 1148 1139 1229

         

        3 was chosen here as the minimum number of unlocked winners for the draw file. The selections that follow are equivalent to running unlock with the given key. The number following the dash is the number of winners in the draw file that this key unlocked.

        Here's the link for 4ToWin.exe

        http://uploading.com/files/9ad71ff3/4ToWin.exe/

        I would be very interested to hear your results of back testing this program.

        PS: You still get the keys.txt file output with this program. 

        jayemmar

        Hi jayemmar:

        Quick question regarding the 1000 draws.  Does it matter for the keys being generated if you have to put the 1000 draws in a certain order such as  eve # then day # (alternating between them) or all eve # then follow by all day #?   

        Thanks.

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          Hi Lottoburg:

          Sorry for the delay in answering.

          You pose a very good point. I'd never profess playing all of the selections generated by each key, because over a period of 10 days you'd likely win no more than a box payoff, per each set of selections . Here's what I would suggest, and this needs verification, which could only come from a good amount of backtesting. You either pick one or two keys and go with the selections generated from those keys or do something along the following lines:

          Take the last N days worth of draws. You have to figure out what you want N to be. It could be 180 or 60 or 10, etc.  If you come up with 3 or more keys that show a winning trend, take the selections generated by each key and count the number of repeated selections(there are programs that provide such a counting).

             A. Play those selections which repeat the most number of times.

             B. Alternatively, play those selections which don't repeat at all.

             C. Play both of the selections in A and B.

             D. Since the payoffs for doubles are more than the payoffs for singles, if doubles are the trend, play only 

                 the doubles that are in the selections generated from the trending keys.

           

          Regards,

           

          jayemmar

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            Posted: April 16, 2012, 10:43 am - IP Logged

            Hi p3wyn:

             

            It should not make a difference, but for the sake of order and updating the draw file correctly, I think it's a good idea to list the draws in the order which they have fallen.

            I have heard from a few readers, that they have been successful by looking at the last 10 days worth of plays and considering the selections generated by the keys that show a winning trend of 3 or more. If there aren't any keys that show a winning trend of 3 or more, they add new draws one at a time as they occur, and then run the program again. Eventually keys with a winning trend of 3 or more will show up. 

             

            jayemmar

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              Posted: April 16, 2012, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

              Hi Lottoburg:

              Sorry for the delay in answering.

              You pose a very good point. I'd never profess playing all of the selections generated by each key, because over a period of 10 days you'd likely win no more than a box payoff, per each set of selections . Here's what I would suggest, and this needs verification, which could only come from a good amount of backtesting. You either pick one or two keys and go with the selections generated from those keys or do something along the following lines:

              Take the last N days worth of draws. You have to figure out what you want N to be. It could be 180 or 60 or 10, etc.  If you come up with 3 or more keys that show a winning trend, take the selections generated by each key and count the number of repeated selections(there are programs that provide such a counting).

                 A. Play those selections which repeat the most number of times.

                 B. Alternatively, play those selections which don't repeat at all.

                 C. Play both of the selections in A and B.

                 D. Since the payoffs for doubles are more than the payoffs for singles, if doubles are the trend, play only 

                     the doubles that are in the selections generated from the trending keys.

               

              Regards,

               

              jayemmar

              Hi, Jayemmar:

              Thanks for your detail reply! Did you make some backtests for your State by using your system so far?

              If so, could you share them here in detail?

              Best regards,

              lb

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                Posted: April 16, 2012, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

                Looks interesting.  I didn't fully understand and couldn't get any link to work.

                Thanks for sharing

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                  Posted: April 17, 2012, 3:07 pm - IP Logged

                  Hi, Jayemmar:

                  Thanks for your detail reply! Did you make some backtests for your State by using your system so far?

                  If so, could you share them here in detail?

                  Best regards,

                  lb

                  Hi Lottoburg:

                   

                  I haven't done any lengthy backtesting of the suggestions I made. I was hoping that some of the readers would take this methodology in hand and do some testing.  I really think that there are some serious dollars that could be mined using this methodology. Just to give an example, I used a draw list that contained 7 past draws. I ran 4ToWin and chose 2 as the minimum number of winners that a key should have unlocked. There were several keys that came up in the selections.txt file. I took all of the selections and grouped them according to how many times they repeated(for example 6285 is considered the same as 2685). I considered the selections found in the 4 highest repeat categories, which gave 8 boxed numbers in total. Three days later, one of those selections fell (boxed). 

                   

                  jayemmar

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                    Hi Lottoburg:

                     

                    I haven't done any lengthy backtesting of the suggestions I made. I was hoping that some of the readers would take this methodology in hand and do some testing.  I really think that there are some serious dollars that could be mined using this methodology. Just to give an example, I used a draw list that contained 7 past draws. I ran 4ToWin and chose 2 as the minimum number of winners that a key should have unlocked. There were several keys that came up in the selections.txt file. I took all of the selections and grouped them according to how many times they repeated(for example 6285 is considered the same as 2685). I considered the selections found in the 4 highest repeat categories, which gave 8 boxed numbers in total. Three days later, one of those selections fell (boxed). 

                     

                    jayemmar

                    Sounds like a very interestigng system you have here!  I will give it a whirl!  Glad to hear the family is doing well.  Keep posting these great concepts and systems! 

                     

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