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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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"I'm convinced anyone with enough funds could show a small profit playing 5000 MM combos using a 4 if 4 wheel every drawing without matching the bonus number, but probably not playing PB."

People with those kinds of funds aren't interested in making a small profit gambling on a lottery game, they have better ways to make a small profit spending that kind of money.

I believe some ideas mentioned earlier in this thread could be the basis of a better strategy if more time was spent fully exploring them.

But making a small profit is only the means to the end...... which is winning 5+1.


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    "I'm convinced anyone with enough funds could show a small profit playing 5000 MM combos using a 4 if 4 wheel every drawing without matching the bonus number, but probably not playing PB."

    People with those kinds of funds aren't interested in making a small profit gambling on a lottery game, they have better ways to make a small profit spending that kind of money.

    I believe some ideas mentioned earlier in this thread could be the basis of a better strategy if more time was spent fully exploring them.

    The people who have put forth the an effort to post winning numbers are the ones who have won the most.


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      Posted: October 14, 2012, 11:24 am - IP Logged

      And at two dollars a ticket, it would cost $100,000 to play 1% of the five number combos. I've been looking at ways to apply some of the strategies discussed in this thread to KY's Cash Ball, but without matching one of the 31 bonus numbers, I can't find a good betting strategy.

      I'm convinced anyone with enough funds could show a small profit playing 5000 MM combos using a 4 if 4 wheel every drawing without matching the bonus number, but probably not playing PB.

      We could track the past performance of a couple of the winners and see how thay may have done...... 

      Im sure the big fish mcginnin56 wont mind, and then we can try x1kosmic...

      mcginnin56 hit 5 of 5 on Aug. 7, 2012 and Aug. 21, 2012 after playing a total of 15 draws. (July 2, start)

      Here are his numbers in random order........

      20 13 36 5 48 7 32 15 17 28 50 34 54 22 35 46 31 9 21 30 44 16 42 47 23 14 33 53

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        Posted: October 14, 2012, 11:50 am - IP Logged

        "I'm convinced anyone with enough funds could show a small profit playing 5000 MM combos using a 4 if 4 wheel every drawing without matching the bonus number, but probably not playing PB."

        People with those kinds of funds aren't interested in making a small profit gambling on a lottery game, they have better ways to make a small profit spending that kind of money.

        I believe some ideas mentioned earlier in this thread could be the basis of a better strategy if more time was spent fully exploring them.

        The small profit comes from matching five numbers four times every 60 drawings and includes having one five number match and several three and four number matches in those four drawings. In the other 56 drawings there should be several three and four number matches. By including occasionally matching the bonus number, it's probably about a 5% profit. Since winning the jackpot isn't included in the 5% profit, a player could collect 105% of their wagers waiting to win the jackpot.

        I agree a 5% profit still might not be worth the time and effort for someone with deep pockets. Based on probability, it could take almost seven years of drawings (690) before that type of play could expect to produce a jackpot win. For anyone interested, a playslip printing program would be a necessity and they would have to keep all the losing tickets and get receipts for the winning tickets for taxes.


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          We could track the past performance of a couple of the winners and see how thay may have done...... 

          Im sure the big fish mcginnin56 wont mind, and then we can try x1kosmic...

          mcginnin56 hit 5 of 5 on Aug. 7, 2012 and Aug. 21, 2012 after playing a total of 15 draws. (July 2, start)

          Here are his numbers in random order........

          20 13 36 5 48 7 32 15 17 28 50 34 54 22 35 46 31 9 21 30 44 16 42 47 23 14 33 53

          Track away......

          As a big fish, I have no personal objections.  No Nod

           


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            The small profit comes from matching five numbers four times every 60 drawings and includes having one five number match and several three and four number matches in those four drawings. In the other 56 drawings there should be several three and four number matches. By including occasionally matching the bonus number, it's probably about a 5% profit. Since winning the jackpot isn't included in the 5% profit, a player could collect 105% of their wagers waiting to win the jackpot.

            I agree a 5% profit still might not be worth the time and effort for someone with deep pockets. Based on probability, it could take almost seven years of drawings (690) before that type of play could expect to produce a jackpot win. For anyone interested, a playslip printing program would be a necessity and they would have to keep all the losing tickets and get receipts for the winning tickets for taxes.

            There is no doubt in my mind that people with a BETTER attitude will get BETTER odds.

            The only person who DID NOT hit 5 of 5 over 35 draws was Boney526 who had posted many negative comments about creating BETTER ODDS before posting a set of 28 numbers........


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              Posted: October 14, 2012, 1:20 pm - IP Logged

              And at two dollars a ticket, it would cost $100,000 to play 1% of the five number combos. I've been looking at ways to apply some of the strategies discussed in this thread to KY's Cash Ball, but without matching one of the 31 bonus numbers, I can't find a good betting strategy.

              I'm convinced anyone with enough funds could show a small profit playing 5000 MM combos using a 4 if 4 wheel every drawing without matching the bonus number, but probably not playing PB.

              I'm interested in playing Cash Ball Stack, looks like a 4/33 game with a bonus number.  Do you want to start a pick 4 thread or just start throwing money at it???? I say throw money, but I give bad advice.....   What?


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                Posted: October 14, 2012, 1:23 pm - IP Logged

                Don't worry about picking a bonus number..... Its easy, just pick one and ride it like a its an angry bull  Mad


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                  Don't worry about picking a bonus number..... Its easy, just pick one and ride it like a its an angry bull  Mad

                  How many "rides" would you suggest riding this angry bull, before giving up and moving on to the next angry bull. What?


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                    The longest I have had to ride so far is 14 draws..... So I don't know.....What?

                    I would use 2 bonus numbers on all lines, and give it 10-12 draws max.


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                      Abbreviated 2 if 5 of 49

                      Tickets:  38

                      Description:  Minimum 2-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 49 numbers.

                      Input:  55, 32, 28, 34, 39, 20, 41, 27, 45, 17, 40, 31, 25, 51, 33, 7, 1, 59, 23, 50, 38, 58, 3, 12, 19, 21, 15, 42, 44, 16, 18, 24, 47, 14, 30, 26, 48, 35, 46, 29, 36, 9, 2, 49, 56, 11, 43, 5, 53

                       

                      Once again, removing 10 numbers from the 59 number PB pool was no problem.....

                      My odds of hitting 5 of 5 on PB were 1 in 1.9 million last night.......


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                        Abbreviated 2 if 5 of 39

                        Tickets:  25

                        Description:  Minimum 2-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 39 numbers.

                        Input:  1, 44, 32, 35, 14, 5, 34, 58, 9, 15, 12, 45, 49, 33, 26, 47, 7, 25, 16, 39, 51, 23, 46, 20, 2, 55, 36, 56, 31, 27, 41, 18, 17, 53, 28, 48, 11, 42, 30

                         

                        Removing 20 numbers from the pool of 59 also worked to perfection........

                        Odds on picking 5 of 5 from this pool were 1 in 575,000......


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                          Sound a lot like BETTER ODDS to me.............     What?


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                            I bought QPs last night and I feel like a stupid idiot.............

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                              The small profit comes from matching five numbers four times every 60 drawings and includes having one five number match and several three and four number matches in those four drawings. In the other 56 drawings there should be several three and four number matches. By including occasionally matching the bonus number, it's probably about a 5% profit. Since winning the jackpot isn't included in the 5% profit, a player could collect 105% of their wagers waiting to win the jackpot.

                              I agree a 5% profit still might not be worth the time and effort for someone with deep pockets. Based on probability, it could take almost seven years of drawings (690) before that type of play could expect to produce a jackpot win. For anyone interested, a playslip printing program would be a necessity and they would have to keep all the losing tickets and get receipts for the winning tickets for taxes.

                              I can't image playing 5000 combinations on paper every drawing and tracking them let alone doing it for real, printing up play slips and all the rest.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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