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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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I can't image playing 5000 combinations on paper every drawing and tracking them let alone doing it for real, printing up play slips and all the rest.

I think I could run 1000 play slips through the machine with no problem.....

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Abbreviated 2 if 5 of 39

Tickets:  25

Description:  Minimum 2-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 39 numbers.

Input:  1, 44, 32, 35, 14, 5, 34, 58, 9, 15, 12, 45, 49, 33, 26, 47, 7, 25, 16, 39, 51, 23, 46, 20, 2, 55, 36, 56, 31, 27, 41, 18, 17, 53, 28, 48, 11, 42, 30

Removing 20 numbers from the pool of 59 also worked to perfection........

Odds on picking 5 of 5 from this pool were 1 in 575,000......

Just for fun I put 12 numbers in a 4 if 4 of 12 LP wheel (including the winners) and had five 4 of 4 matches..

Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 4 if 4 of 12

Tickets:  113

Description: Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 12 numbers.

Input:  44, 32, 5, 45, 49, 26, 7, 25, 20, 23, 2, 55

79. 02-05-25-45-49
80. 05-20-23-45-49
81. 05-07-20-26-45
82. 05-23-25-26-45
83. 02-05-26-45-55
84. 02-05-07-23-45
85. 05-20-25-45-55
86. 05-07-25-26-49
87. 05-20-26-49-55
88. 02-05-23-26-49
89. 02-05-07-20-49
90. 05-23-25-49-55
91. 05-07-23-26-55
92. 02-05-20-25-26
93. 05-07-20-23-25
94. 02-05-07-25-55
95. 02-05-20-23-55
96. 02-07-26-45-49
97. 20-25-26-45-49
98. 23-26-45-49-55
99. 07-23-25-45-49
100. 02-20-45-49-55
101. 07-25-26-45-55
102. 02-20-23-26-45
103. 02-07-20-25-45
104. 07-20-23-45-55
105. 02-23-25-45-55
106. 07-20-23-26-49
107. 02-25-26-49-55

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 Posted: October 14, 2012, 2:46 pm - IP Logged

I think I could run 1000 play slips through the machine with no problem.....

I have no doubt you could, clerks around here have been running thousands of play slips every day for years and they still haven't ran one that won a MegaMillion or PowerBall jackpot.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Just for fun I put 12 numbers in a 4 if 4 of 12 LP wheel (including the winners) and had five 4 of 4 matches..

Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 4 if 4 of 12

Tickets:  113

Description: Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 12 numbers.

Input:  44, 32, 5, 45, 49, 26, 7, 25, 20, 23, 2, 55

79. 02-05-25-45-49
80. 05-20-23-45-49
81. 05-07-20-26-45
82. 05-23-25-26-45
83. 02-05-26-45-55
84. 02-05-07-23-45
85. 05-20-25-45-55
86. 05-07-25-26-49
87. 05-20-26-49-55
88. 02-05-23-26-49
89. 02-05-07-20-49
90. 05-23-25-49-55
91. 05-07-23-26-55
92. 02-05-20-25-26
93. 05-07-20-23-25
94. 02-05-07-25-55
95. 02-05-20-23-55
96. 02-07-26-45-49
97. 20-25-26-45-49
98. 23-26-45-49-55
99. 07-23-25-45-49
100. 02-20-45-49-55
101. 07-25-26-45-55
102. 02-20-23-26-45
103. 02-07-20-25-45
104. 07-20-23-45-55
105. 02-23-25-45-55
106. 07-20-23-26-49
107. 02-25-26-49-55

If you have the 5 winning numbers in a group of 12, you're going to win something even if you aren't wheeling. Wheeling isn't solution, picking the right five numbers is.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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I have no doubt you could, clerks around here have been running thousands of play slips every day for years and they still haven't ran one that won a MegaMillion or PowerBall jackpot.

But my odds are 1 in 575,000......... NOT 1 in 5 million.........

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If you have the 5 winning numbers in a group of 12, you're going to win something even if you aren't wheeling. Wheeling isn't solution, picking the right five numbers is.

It depends on how you play the 12 numbers.......   You could pick the wrong 5......

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Abbreviated 2 if 5 of 39

Tickets:  25

Description:  Minimum 2-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 39 numbers.

Input:  1, 44, 32, 35, 14, 5, 34, 58, 9, 15, 12, 45, 49, 33, 26, 47, 7, 25, 16, 39, 51, 23, 46, 20, 2, 55, 36, 56, 31, 27, 41, 18, 17, 53, 28, 48, 11, 42, 30

Removing 20 numbers from the pool of 59 also worked to perfection........

Odds on picking 5 of 5 from this pool were 1 in 575,000......

Should I play from THIS group or just get QPs...... Maybe the odds are the same......

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Should I play from THIS group or just get QPs...... Maybe the odds are the same......

If you don't have strategy in place to guide you choice then it probably doesn't matter.  I prefer following a strategy which I can evaluate and adjust after the drawings.  I may not win anything but I never have any doubts about  the choices I make.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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If you have the 5 winning numbers in a group of 12, you're going to win something even if you aren't wheeling. Wheeling isn't solution, picking the right five numbers is.

This is flawed logic   RJOh, just as "QPs have the same odds as self-picks" is also flawed logic.

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Here is a challenge  RJOh, use numbers 10-21 and we each play 113 lines from the full wheel pool of 792.

After we each post our lines we have someone pick 5 numbers as winners and see who win??

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Here is a challenge  RJOh, use numbers 10-21 and we each play 113 lines from the full wheel pool of 792.

After we each post our lines we have someone pick 5 numbers as winners and see who win??

That sounds like what I'm already doing.  Every Tuesday and Friday I pick 10-20 lines to play for MegaMillions and check them after the drawing.

I usually post the first 10 on the prediction board but for the challenge I'm willing to post all 20 lines in this thread before the drawing and we can use the numbers drawn by MegaMillions.  I trust their numbers are fair and unbiased.

If you post 20 lines then I will do the same.  Let's get this challenge on.  See you Tuesday evening.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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That sounds like what I'm already doing.  Every Tuesday and Friday I pick 10-20 lines to play for MegaMillions and check them after the drawing.

I usually post the first 10 on the prediction board but for the challenge I'm willing to post all 20 lines in this thread before the drawing and we can use the numbers drawn by MegaMillions.  I trust their numbers are fair and unbiased.

If you post 20 lines then I will do the same.  Let's get this challenge on.  See you Tuesday evening.

This is exciting to see you guys take on these immense challenges!

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This is exciting to see you guys take on these immense challenges!

113 lines is the minimum I will play...........

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113 lines is the minimum I will play...........

Play as many as you like, my strategy only use 20.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Play as many as you like, my strategy only use 20.

Im not surprised that you wont compete against a wheel, I dont blame you. mcginnin56 perhaps

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