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While I occasionally do play QP's, I don't replay a QP on a playslip. There's just so many combinations, it doesn't matter. Even in a small game like a Cash 5 game, you may have some smaller wins, but those numbers may never all come in. The best thing about playing 10 lines each draw is that it gives you 9 extra chances (small chances) over playing 1 line. You still will probably lose more (a lot) than you win unless you hit for $10,000. Did you know that if your state has a Pick 4 game you have 1 in 10,000 chance of hitting $10,000 when you play $2 straight? Check out the odds of hitting $10,000 on MM or PB. I know we don't play the big games for 10G's, but that just illustrates the difficulty of winning.
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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Jun 19, 2012
While I occasionally do play QP's, I don't replay a QP on a playslip. There's just so many combinations, it doesn't matter. Even in a small game like a Cash 5 game, you may have some smaller wins, but those numbers may never all come in. The best thing about playing 10 lines each draw is that it gives you 9 extra chances (small chances) over playing 1 line. You still will probably lose more (a lot) than you win unless you hit for $10,000. Did you know that if your state has a Pick 4 game you have 1 in 10,000 chance of hitting $10,000 when you play $2 straight? Check out the odds of hitting $10,000 on MM or PB. I know we don't play the big games for 10G's, but that just illustrates the difficulty of winning.
Good luck!
"Check out the odds of hitting $10,000 on MM or PB. I know we don't play the big games for 10G's, but that just illustrates the difficulty of winning."
Most players never look at the odds and that includes many LP members who should know better. The odds in MM are 689,065 to 1 and the $2 PB is 648,976 to 1. Both those odds are higher than the odds against matching 5 numbers in a 5/39 Pick-5 games that pays $100,000. Matching 4 numbers on MM with odds of 15,313 to 1 pays $150 but the same match on $2 PB with even higher odds against (19,088 to 1) only pays $100.
I suppose most players will justify making those bets because after all they are getting a chance to win multi-millions or maybe $1 million and the odds are irrelevant to them. Some even seem to be upset because their 1 QP never wins anything while others will tell us how they plan on spending their winnings and/or give advice on how to collect anonymously.
If buying a ticket just for a dream with very little chance of cashing the ticket is what players want, PB and MM is their game.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jun 19, 2012
"Check out the odds of hitting $10,000 on MM or PB. I know we don't play the big games for 10G's, but that just illustrates the difficulty of winning."
Most players never look at the odds and that includes many LP members who should know better. The odds in MM are 689,065 to 1 and the $2 PB is 648,976 to 1. Both those odds are higher than the odds against matching 5 numbers in a 5/39 Pick-5 games that pays $100,000. Matching 4 numbers on MM with odds of 15,313 to 1 pays $150 but the same match on $2 PB with even higher odds against (19,088 to 1) only pays $100.
I suppose most players will justify making those bets because after all they are getting a chance to win multi-millions or maybe $1 million and the odds are irrelevant to them. Some even seem to be upset because their 1 QP never wins anything while others will tell us how they plan on spending their winnings and/or give advice on how to collect anonymously.
If buying a ticket just for a dream with very little chance of cashing the ticket is what players want, PB and MM is their game.
The same is true at slots. Lower pay outs ALWAYS give you better odds regardless if its a 25 cent machine or dollar machine. The big difference is that going to a casino usually involves dropping $100s where to JP games can be played with $1-2 dillars and that is what it seems most people play.
That's why I simulate playing 100.000 lines on MM. It takes that many lines to have a 1 in 38 chance at a $250k prize.
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Your right though Stack,
Getting a couple of QP or buying ONE SCRATCH TICKET is about as realistic as going into the casino with ONE QUARTER......... sounds like a great "Play to Lose" strategy to me.
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When I play the MM or PB QP's, I rarely even look at the numbers anymore. I used to look at the numbers and if I liked them, I would replay them. Then you fall into that trap of if you don't play them they will come in. I'd rather not know what the numbers were. I check the slips every couple of weeks and see if I won anything.
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Quote: Originally posted by NightStalker on Jun 19, 2012
When I play the MM or PB QP's, I rarely even look at the numbers anymore. I used to look at the numbers and if I liked them, I would replay them. Then you fall into that trap of if you don't play them they will come in. I'd rather not know what the numbers were. I check the slips every couple of weeks and see if I won anything.
I could be that it makes no difference whatsoever, but when I buy different QPs all the time I feel like I'm "chasing the wind" and I might be "better" off repeating them.
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This applies to both quick pick and self pick numbers:
If you want to join the "Glutton for Punishment Club" or "Masochists Incorporated" you could save your tickets and check them later using one of those "Are your numbers lucky?" features that some lotto websites have.
It would be something to see that you had one or more big winners but just on the wrong day.
I think I'd rather not know. Blissful ignorance in this case.
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Quote: Originally posted by Epistrophy on Jun 19, 2012
This applies to both quick pick and self pick numbers:
If you want to join the "Glutton for Punishment Club" or "Masochists Incorporated" you could save your tickets and check them later using one of those "Are your numbers lucky?" features that some lotto websites have.
It would be something to see that you had one or more big winners but just on the wrong day.
I think I'd rather not know. Blissful ignorance in this case.
Here's an idea, everyone should check all their QPs at USA MEGA to see if they have EVER been a JP winner in the past. That would be a real bummer to see that you were a few drawings late and a few dollars short.
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Quote: Originally posted by Epistrophy on Jun 19, 2012
This applies to both quick pick and self pick numbers:
If you want to join the "Glutton for Punishment Club" or "Masochists Incorporated" you could save your tickets and check them later using one of those "Are your numbers lucky?" features that some lotto websites have.
It would be something to see that you had one or more big winners but just on the wrong day.
I think I'd rather not know. Blissful ignorance in this case.
Yep, I've went over this already concerning self and quick picks. In my opinion, it would be one of the worst things to ever discover. I say that because once you know you actually hit at some point, but your numbers weren't in the system, it will worry you to death until you hit "again". We all know that except for a couple of very, very, very, unusual cases, this is a once in a lifetime deal...self explanatory. There is definitely a benefit to not knowing.
I support your last two sentences, and, for very good reasons. It would really hurt to know that you "could've" been a millionaire.
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Quote: Originally posted by Ronnie316 on Jun 19, 2012
Here's an idea, everyone should check all their QPs at USA MEGA to see if they have EVER been a JP winner in the past. That would be a real bummer to see that you were a few drawings late and a few dollars short.
Even if I did have previous QP tickets, I wouldn't consider it...lots of risk there. It would be very naive to think it hasn't happened somewhere already. The chance I have, and, the chance I missed. I suppose it could be a good feeling to tell people that you won the lottery, but your numbers weren't played for that draw. Then, you have to listen to the how "you could be rich" right now and set for life" stories.
Gotta answer all those questions about why you didn't play the numbers. Somebody's definitely gonna tell me how I'll never get another chance like that in my lifetime. Naaaaahhhhh, I'd rather keep looking forward to winning without all the headaches...but thanks, Ronnie!!!
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In fact, let's just completely throw out the jackpot and find out that several people actually matched (5) numbers for that cool $1 million...and missed out. With all the QP's I've purchased in the past, I know there are at least a couple of (4) number winners somewhere...maybe even a 4+1. Let's just leave it at "maybe".
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jun 19, 2012
In fact, let's just completely throw out the jackpot and find out that several people actually matched (5) numbers for that cool $1 million...and missed out. With all the QP's I've purchased in the past, I know there are at least a couple of (4) number winners somewhere...maybe even a 4+1. Let's just leave it at "maybe".
L.L.
So I'm guessing LL that you don't want to play "Do some combinations have better odds" where you can submit 28 numbers and PRETEND that you hit 5 out of 5 ??
Just wondering, because the discussion is still underway as to whether or not anyone can beat the stated odds.