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A dime a dozen - Lottery Systems

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Posted: September 15, 2012, 2:05 pm - IP Logged

Hi,

  Is it just me or is the LP a place where lottery systems are just a dime a dozen?

  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to seperate ideas just being floated around versus a well thought out system.

  Perhaps if posters would include things like:

   Projected payoff frequency.

   The bet amount required per draw.

   If the system is historically back tested.

   What state it applies to.

   etc.......

  It could almost be an optional paste in form for this forum.

  Any addtional thoughts or ideas are welcome.

You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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    Posted: September 15, 2012, 2:55 pm - IP Logged

    JKING,

    Don't you think what you are suggesting is a bit too much. If a poster is giving us a system or an idea, why can't we back test in our state and do some of the work. If I were a poster of a system I don't think I would take the step that you are asking them to do. They will have done most of the work, already.

    OT

      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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      Posted: September 15, 2012, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

      JKING,

      Don't you think what you are suggesting is a bit too much. If a poster is giving us a system or an idea, why can't we back test in our state and do some of the work. If I were a poster of a system I don't think I would take the step that you are asking them to do. They will have done most of the work, already.

      OT

      I Agree! You don't get that kind of service from vendors selling lottery systems and they're doing it for a living.  LP members are just hobbyist who enjoy sharing ideas and information about lotteries.  Beside what you are proposing sounds more like work than fun.

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        Posted: September 15, 2012, 3:12 pm - IP Logged

        Hi,

          Is it just me or is the LP a place where lottery systems are just a dime a dozen?

          Wouldn't it be nice to be able to seperate ideas just being floated around versus a well thought out system.

          Perhaps if posters would include things like:

           Projected payoff frequency.

           The bet amount required per draw.

           If the system is historically back tested.

           What state it applies to.

           etc.......

          It could almost be an optional paste in form for this forum.

          Any addtional thoughts or ideas are welcome.

         Wouldn't it be nice to be able to seperate ideas just being floated around versus a well thought out system.

         

        Yes it would be. You have one?

          RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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          Posted: September 15, 2012, 7:47 pm - IP Logged

           Wouldn't it be nice to be able to seperate ideas just being floated around versus a well thought out system.

           

          Yes it would be. You have one?

          The well thought out systems aren't shared, it's the ones that need some thoughtful input that are shared.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: September 15, 2012, 7:59 pm - IP Logged

            The well thought out, winning systems will hardly ever be shared, for a reason.

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              Posted: September 15, 2012, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

              Hi,

                Is it just me or is the LP a place where lottery systems are just a dime a dozen?

                Wouldn't it be nice to be able to seperate ideas just being floated around versus a well thought out system.

                Perhaps if posters would include things like:

                 Projected payoff frequency.

                 The bet amount required per draw.

                 If the system is historically back tested.

                 What state it applies to.

                 etc.......

                It could almost be an optional paste in form for this forum.

                Any addtional thoughts or ideas are welcome.

              ROFL


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                Posted: September 15, 2012, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

                The well thought out systems aren't shared, it's the ones that need some thoughtful input that are shared.

                The well thought out systems aren't shared

                 

                Are you sure there are any at all?

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                  Posted: September 16, 2012, 5:51 am - IP Logged

                  Simply there is NO  system .

                  you or everwho else can NEVER beat the game.

                  if you do not understand the law of probabilities in MATHS you can never understand the game.

                  ALL  suggested ideas i have gone thru the forum are nonsense.

                  take the last digit, add one minus one plus 3 multiply  then they come to the conclusion ooh i have a hit etc.....

                  This nonsence.

                  if you have a hit simply it is a coincidence and the combination you hit is simply one of the 1000 odds in pick three game.

                  simply said the odds are against you.

                  i have gone thru all the statistics of pick 3 game 1000 s of draws EACH DIGIT HAS THE SAME CHANCE TO COME OUT.

                  in 1000 draw each digit came 300 nearly, a few 290  ...so in the same range.

                  there is no hot no cold in this game

                   

                  it is the law of MATH the probabilty law

                  and there is no system to beat the game if not all the bookies shouldhave gone bankrupt or closed and the state would have ended the game.

                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    Posted: September 16, 2012, 6:46 am - IP Logged

                    The well thought out systems aren't shared

                     

                    Are you sure there are any at all?

                    I'm not saying well thought out systems are guaranteed magical winners, they may just be practical and affordable ways of playing the lotteries while recognizing you're gambling against some big odds.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      Posted: September 16, 2012, 7:43 am - IP Logged

                      I'm not saying well thought out systems are guaranteed magical winners, they may just be practical and affordable ways of playing the lotteries while recognizing you're gambling against some big odds.

                      RJOh

                      You said it all in your last post.  It seems to me that most people think of a lottery system as a static

                      device that can pull a rabbit out of the hat on demand.  There are no systems that can do that.  I have

                      called my software a system in the past but it is only a software, the system is how one chooses to use

                      it.

                      RL

                      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                        Posted: September 16, 2012, 11:36 am - IP Logged

                        Hi,

                        An interesting set of responses. Thanks to all who posted a reply. *S*

                        I still am of the opinion, that some sort of measure should be used to separate a floating idea from a post that has had some work put into it. In addition, any type of measure to keep different flavors of the same failed methods from appearing at the LP over and over would be a plus to all. Think of my initial list as nothing more than a starting point for progressively improving posts rather than going in circles.

                        It is no wonder that some of the replies question if there is any winning method or that nobody posts a winning method. Without some sort of measures would even be able to identify winning system elements or methods even if they are posted. Yes, I am one of those who test some of the interesting ideas posted as a hobby.

                        As far as the comments that there is no system...

                        If you only look at the lottery numbers and not the properties of the numbers over time, then the limited set probabilities you use as a measure will fail. Then there is the usual confusion of possibility versus probability. Yes, anything can happen, but probably won’t. *S* If you give a little more thought to random numbers and events, there are loose knit rules that they obey and that are not in the math books. Hint, look at the dispersion of the numbers over time. So, RL’s comment that a lottery system should be dynamic is totally correct.

                        Anyway, I hope you see the merit in using some kind of measurement method in posts. I don’t have all the answers, any help is welcomed. *S*

                        You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

                        Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.

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                          Posted: September 16, 2012, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

                          JKING

                          I've developed a substitution system that is working for me, IF MY CHOICES ARE CORRECT.

                          I've shared the basic foundation here at LP several times.

                          However, I've not posted some improvements.

                          The problem is that many LP regulars/visitors seem to be looking for a working system that doesn't require
                          effort/work on their part.

                          Basically, they want to depress a key and have breakfast served in bed, so to speak.

                          No such system exists, never will exist.

                          Rewards usually comes to those who work for them.

                          Enough said.

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                            Posted: September 16, 2012, 1:50 pm - IP Logged

                            JKING,

                            Some of what you call 'floating ideas' are just different ways of coming up with numbers that people have decided to use, and share.

                            Some are 'paper & pencil' methods, some are things like using a key pad. Todd has provided a feature to convert words into numbers.

                            A lor of people enjoy doing this kind of stuff.

                            Your OP made me think of a rule in mail order - selling gambling information is one of the riskiest things in mail order because it has the highest percentage of people pyaing with bad checks - some people not only want the information on how to beat the house, but they want to beat the seller out of the cost for the information, too.

                            No No

                             

                            Absorb what is useful (for you), disregard the rest.

                            - Bruce Lee

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              Posted: September 17, 2012, 12:43 am - IP Logged

                              This tired topic has been presented before.  However, the ones quick to judge don't produce anything but verbage.  But, if its meant to recycle negativity why post it at all?  I'm not impressed.

                              If a person is smart enough to backtest and find a good system then more power to them.  I have had many messages in my mailbox from people that have won from my systems.  This is a lottery forum not a debate.

                               

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