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# manual's deviations

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bgonÃ§alves
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Hello, manual, when the fortune (member lp) forum was created some systems you can put together with these systems? Especially because the site does not open fortune (email address) you could include smooth systems of fortune

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Hello, manual, when the fortune (member lp) forum was created some systems you can put together with these systems? Especially because the site does not open fortune (email address) you could include smooth systems of fortune

I'm not sure what you're asking for. I thought you wanted me to code a system called 'smooth systems of fortune' but I can't seem to find one with that name. Can you please clarify?

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OK, I see it. Thanks a lots!

For example, the #540 appeared on the left side when I entered 02/16/13 of FL's P3 on the right side.

I'm not sure what's the #540? A base set from the deviation we selected? or Root #? or Deviation #?

How can we get the nice prediction combs for next draw by using the only #?

It's not good to +/- 1 for each position by making some backtests from Jan. 01 to Feb. 01. of FL's P3.

Also, FL's P3 MID Drawing today is 461. "I had 471, 481. and 491 from the 14th." How can you get the # 471, 481, and 491? Here, if the 14 th is the root # or deviation # for next drawing? If so,  how can you get the 14th as the root # or deviation #? Does it come from the program of Manual's Deviations which will automatically create or just from your idea?  Where we can find the "Days to deviate"?

Could you give me some smart instructions for improving my prediction combs?

Thanks for your great job and nice help again!!!

As I said, the version that's on the site is different than the one I use. So the numbers you get differ from what I've posted before. The reason is that the script takes far too long to churn through 300 deviations and then match that against X of days. The script would timeout or simply bog down the SQL server, especially if more than one person was running the page at a time. The version I have up there is close to what I have but runs much quicker.

I was looking at the code today and found a bug in the script... I didn't put the proper sort where it grabs the deviation to use. Ironically, it's making the system the least accurate it could be. I just updated the site so it's using the correct sort. Sorry I missed that one.

Now, your basic question is, what exactly are you seeing there. After all of the deviation magic is done, it gets the last draw (based on the date selected on the page) and then applies the devaition to it. So let's say my system comes up with a deviation of 1, -7, 3. Apply that to a draw of 1-2-3 and you get 2-5-6 (Simple addition on each position, using lotto math). From there 2-5-6 is my system's guess on what will occur soon (I play sets until they hit or 7 days, which ever comes first). Just playing the single set won't result in many wins. This makes a lot of sense because my system is just taking the top deviations for each position and hoping they hit together in the near future. This is why I created this topic. What's a good wheel to use? I've had some success with +/- 1 on each column but I've had 4 draws now where I was off one digit of one position (i.e. if 1-2-3 hit, I had 2-2-3, 3-2-3, 4-2-3). I don't mind being off by a mile. But after 4 cose hits like that... it's painful.

So I was hoping the LP collective would have some suggestions, ideas, give me something that I didn't think of.

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 Posted: February 19, 2013, 2:11 pm - IP Logged

Hello laker the manual, the link must have the fortune (member lp) but the site opens noa fortune I thought I could see the system that he set up with requests from members
And you ride, because the site where they (systems) is hosted at this longer working

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phew... took two days, I was starting to loose the faith. Especially playing .50 instead of .25. My poor winnings were being eaten away. Got lucky with 8-9-5 tonight. Now I'm up to \$735 in my online account (of course, I put in \$300 over the course of my losses in the beginning). That amount his been a big yo-yo...

I'm continuing trying to develop a website friendly version that doesn't take as many sets to play. Just haven't had time to do much with it (or my site) lately. I have a work project that is coming 110% of my time. Hopefully that will let up soon and I can get back to the fun that is lotto. Since I hit tonight, I had to do the workout for my next group of sets. Here they are (for FL only, if they hit elsewhere, it's coincidental).

032 041 050 051 052 132 140 141 142 150 152 230 231 232 241 250 251 252 205 214 215 216 225 304 305 306 314 316 324 325 326 405 414 415 416 425

I personally think having to play that many numbers is horrible. And that's with the numbers filtered down... I'm trying my best to find a way to get my version where it'll work as a web page, not have so many playable sets, and still have enough hits to be profitable. I've had some luck with mirroring Positions 2 and 3. Oddly enough, Position 2 seems to be off the most, with this system at least. It's rather difficult. Almost like it's random or something. ;)

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phew... took two days, I was starting to loose the faith. Especially playing .50 instead of .25. My poor winnings were being eaten away. Got lucky with 8-9-5 tonight. Now I'm up to \$735 in my online account (of course, I put in \$300 over the course of my losses in the beginning). That amount his been a big yo-yo...

I'm continuing trying to develop a website friendly version that doesn't take as many sets to play. Just haven't had time to do much with it (or my site) lately. I have a work project that is coming 110% of my time. Hopefully that will let up soon and I can get back to the fun that is lotto. Since I hit tonight, I had to do the workout for my next group of sets. Here they are (for FL only, if they hit elsewhere, it's coincidental).

032 041 050 051 052 132 140 141 142 150 152 230 231 232 241 250 251 252 205 214 215 216 225 304 305 306 314 316 324 325 326 405 414 415 416 425

I personally think having to play that many numbers is horrible. And that's with the numbers filtered down... I'm trying my best to find a way to get my version where it'll work as a web page, not have so many playable sets, and still have enough hits to be profitable. I've had some luck with mirroring Positions 2 and 3. Oddly enough, Position 2 seems to be off the most, with this system at least. It's rather difficult. Almost like it's random or something. ;)

WTG! manual

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As I said, the version that's on the site is different than the one I use. So the numbers you get differ from what I've posted before. The reason is that the script takes far too long to churn through 300 deviations and then match that against X of days. The script would timeout or simply bog down the SQL server, especially if more than one person was running the page at a time. The version I have up there is close to what I have but runs much quicker.

I was looking at the code today and found a bug in the script... I didn't put the proper sort where it grabs the deviation to use. Ironically, it's making the system the least accurate it could be. I just updated the site so it's using the correct sort. Sorry I missed that one.

Now, your basic question is, what exactly are you seeing there. After all of the deviation magic is done, it gets the last draw (based on the date selected on the page) and then applies the devaition to it. So let's say my system comes up with a deviation of 1, -7, 3. Apply that to a draw of 1-2-3 and you get 2-5-6 (Simple addition on each position, using lotto math). From there 2-5-6 is my system's guess on what will occur soon (I play sets until they hit or 7 days, which ever comes first). Just playing the single set won't result in many wins. This makes a lot of sense because my system is just taking the top deviations for each position and hoping they hit together in the near future. This is why I created this topic. What's a good wheel to use? I've had some success with +/- 1 on each column but I've had 4 draws now where I was off one digit of one position (i.e. if 1-2-3 hit, I had 2-2-3, 3-2-3, 4-2-3). I don't mind being off by a mile. But after 4 cose hits like that... it's painful.

So I was hoping the LP collective would have some suggestions, ideas, give me something that I didn't think of.

Have you tried using a Fibonacci sequence as the basis for a wheel (if that even makes any sense since you would use lotto math)?

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Would this work in a pic 4 state with payoffs on the front 3?thanks

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ranman,
No, I haven't tried that yet. Do you have any examples on how that wheel works?

retxx,
Ideally, it would work for any game. There would be two concerns. First, with less draws (like a pick 6 game), the system would be less accurate. Second, the base set has to be wheeled in some way to get hits more frequently. So when you add positions, you add more combinations. It might be doable on a Pick 4 game but I'd imagine Pick 5+ would simply cost too much to play.

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I was on your site and noticed lottolaughs winter wonderland isn't working on the compare page, but it does work on the pick 3

I didn't know if you noticed that, I tried unchecking some thinking it was too many numbers but that didn't work

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I was on your site and noticed lottolaughs winter wonderland isn't working on the compare page, but it does work on the pick 3

I didn't know if you noticed that, I tried unchecking some thinking it was too many numbers but that didn't work

Apologies for the delay, just in the middle of a work project that's consuming all of my time right now. I took a second and fixed the compare page. It should be working on the site now. Thanks for letting me know.

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Apologies for the delay, just in the middle of a work project that's consuming all of my time right now. I took a second and fixed the compare page. It should be working on the site now. Thanks for letting me know.

no need to apologise, real life has a way of doing that lol

I know mine has lately..

thanks for looking into it!

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Impressive work Manuel.  Thanks for explaining what's going on in there.

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That group of sets I shared a few posts back had a hit. The bad news is that the actual hit was 204. That set was removed from the group when I filtered the nubmers down. I was filtering out all evens, all odds and the first/last 5 sums. I was over \$700 in my account so I got ballsy and played the day for \$2 a set. Cost a small fortune but the win would've been \$1800. Sadly, I saw 2-0-5 but no 2-0-4... So now I'm not filtering my sets anymore. I'm also back to playing off of three base sets. It costs more but the wins come quicker so I get to play more. I'm trying to find that sweet spot between how many base sets to play (aka cost) vs. wins.

I was one number off of hitting EVE tonight. Closest I had was 2-9-5, but 1-9-5 hit. I still hit 8-0-7 MID today but I can't seem to crack two wins in one day... In any case, a hit means a new workout. For anyone interested, here are the three base sets I'm playing off of until they hit (or 7 days pass). As always, this is for FL. The system takes awhile to run so I don't have time to do other states. Hopefully once my work project is done, I can spare a little time to take another stab at automating the process so it can go up on my site.

Base set #1: 2-0-1
+/- 1 on each position: 190 191 192 100 101 102 110 111 112 290 291 292 200 201 202 210 211 212 390 391 392 300 301 302 310 311 312

Base set #2: 8-4-5
+/- 1 on each position: 734 735 736 744 745 746 754 755 756 834 835 836 844 845 846 854 855 856 934 935 936 944 945 946 954 955 956

Base set #3: 8-7-8
+/- 1 on each position: 767 768 769 777 778 779 787 788 789 867 868 869 877 878 879 887 888 889 967 968 969 977 978 979 987 988 989

Maybe one day I can fingure out how to reduce the numbers more but for now, I'm making more money than I'm betting and it's fun. So I'm just going with it.

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Manual

Thanks for the Base sets .  are you playing these straight or boxed  ?

Im assuming straight ?

Carlig

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