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Strange methods and strategies used by players

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Artist77's avatar - batman14

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Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:14 pm - IP Logged

For me this method is absurd.

I agree...when pigs fly.

J'aime La France.

    RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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    YURAN

    I believe it is more than possible, The lottery terminal RNG's used to generate tickets can be programmed to

    skew the numbers.  Humans are creatures of habit and most play the same sort of numbers and the lotteries

    track this information.  I once made the comment that if viewed overall the tickets sold if plotted on a map would

    show much like the coverage area of a bad cell phone provider.  If the RNG's were designed to pick a large 

    percent of numbers from these blank areas then they could control the JP's.  Many would argue that the lottery

    has no reason to skew the drawings but it's a proven fact that the larger the JP the more people spend trying

    to win it.   Another reason I don't play QP's

    RL

    Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

    USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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      Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

      YURAN

      I believe it is more than possible, The lottery terminal RNG's used to generate tickets can be programmed to

      skew the numbers.  Humans are creatures of habit and most play the same sort of numbers and the lotteries

      track this information.  I once made the comment that if viewed overall the tickets sold if plotted on a map would

      show much like the coverage area of a bad cell phone provider.  If the RNG's were designed to pick a large 

      percent of numbers from these blank areas then they could control the JP's.  Many would argue that the lottery

      has no reason to skew the drawings but it's a proven fact that the larger the JP the more people spend trying

      to win it.   Another reason I don't play QP's

      RL

      We have long discussion with him.

      But we failed to give him the proof that lottery really doesn't use this 'dirt' methods.

      And his proposal is try to use QP's with reverse.

      Other side of medal is: what if lottery absolutely do not need it.

      Perhaps this is an endless debate.

        RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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        Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:31 pm - IP Logged

        YURAN

        Anywhere greed and large payouts come together there is always the possibility of something fishy

        going on.  I think most lotteries are on the up and up but there is always the possibility that a fox has

        the key to the hen-house.

        RL

        Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

        I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

        they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

        USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

          US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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          Even if nothing was going on and one assumed it was, he would have to find some pattern in the way numbers were being picked to convince himself it was.  Once having done that he should be able to beat the system he believes is causing him to lose.

          Even system players who believe the lotteries are as honest and random as humanly possible are looking for naturally occuring patterns that they might be able to use to give themselves an edge.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

            YURAN

            Anywhere greed and large payouts come together there is always the possibility of something fishy

            going on.  I think most lotteries are on the up and up but there is always the possibility that a fox has

            the key to the hen-house.

            RL

            For example: computerized drawing. Which not use physical drawing machines.

            Plus there was fishy in the history of lotteries.

            Perhaps this was happened in Florida, right? The famous history with faking balls...

            Modern times: hi-tech fishy...

              Artist77's avatar - batman14

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              Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:35 pm - IP Logged

              YURAN

              Be very careful when using something like this, I came accross a method online where a person suggested that

              information about the next draw could be gained from the barcode from a QB.  This was a scam and what the

              person was doing was taking a person up to the point of installing certain software that would allow him/her

              to access your computer.  They posted that they would continue the details in future post but it was nothing more

              than getting you to install the software which would allow them access.  Might be this one is something else but

              I caution not to install any software offered with these sort of methods.

              RL

              hmmm I am going to try the long digit series on my ticket and play with it to get another 6 numbers (win for life).

              J'aime La France.

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                Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:39 pm - IP Logged

                Even if nothing was going on and one assumed it was, he would have to find some pattern in the way numbers were being picked to convince himself it was.  Once having done that he should be able to beat the system he believes is causing him to lose.

                Even system players who believe the lotteries are as honest and random as humanly possible are looking for naturally occuring patterns that they might be able to use to give themselves an edge.

                Sure.

                But he has hit once 4 of 5 numbers with this strategy. 5/45 lottery.

                This was once. He now have 2 or 3 numbers correct almost every drawing.

                "Reverse" Quck Pick give him the same results as when I use Gail Howard numbers selection strategy with her wheeling systems.

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                  Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

                  Sure.

                  But he has hit once 4 of 5 numbers with this strategy. 5/45 lottery.

                  This was once. He now have 2 or 3 numbers correct almost every drawing.

                  "Reverse" Quck Pick give him the same results as when I use Gail Howard numbers selection strategy with her wheeling systems.

                  Maybe his method with Quick Picks should have sense...

                  This is can be proof that lottery use 'dirt' methods to manipulate the jackpot amount using Quick Picks (to create create blank gaps in the pool). Because 80% of players use Quick Picks!

                    RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                    I was reading an article the other day where the writer wrote if lotteries were run like casinos, every jackpot winner would be arrested and questioned until he/she admitted cheating.  Unlike casino gamblers, lottery winners are assumed honest until proven other wise.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:46 pm - IP Logged

                      I don't believe there's any such thing as a "bizarre" method or strategy. Whatever ideas people come up with...well...it was in their brain,wasn't it? Are you calling them strange? If people saw some of the methods

                      I've come up with throughout the years (ones not posted on the LP,lol) I guess you can add me to the bunch :)Crazy Parties!

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                        Posted: July 22, 2013, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

                        I don't believe there's any such thing as a "bizarre" method or strategy. Whatever ideas people come up with...well...it was in their brain,wasn't it? Are you calling them strange? If people saw some of the methods

                        I've come up with throughout the years (ones not posted on the LP,lol) I guess you can add me to the bunch :)Crazy Parties!

                        I called this boy strange because he have unusual methods.

                        We use the whells, number selection etc... He used simply Quick Pick analyze...

                        If Quick Pick is PREprogrammed to disallow us to fill whole pool of combinations then... It is advantage, isn't it?

                          Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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                          I called this boy strange because he have unusual methods.

                          We use the whells, number selection etc... He used simply Quick Pick analyze...

                          If Quick Pick is PREprogrammed to disallow us to fill whole pool of combinations then... It is advantage, isn't it?

                          So this boy friend of yours, where is he playing and which game?

                          Is this the Ukrainian National Lottery, the 5/45 Lotto Maxima game?

                          If this game is a computer draw, and if there is government corruption, any kind of strange things are possible.

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                            So this boy friend of yours, where is he playing and which game?

                            Is this the Ukrainian National Lottery, the 5/45 Lotto Maxima game?

                            If this game is a computer draw, and if there is government corruption, any kind of strange things are possible.

                            This boy is simply ones from our small online community of lottery players.

                            The Loto Maxima game used real drawing machines (the same which used in USA).

                            Ukrainian National Lottery was founded with little help (in organizational questions) of Florida lottery. I was read an article about it.

                              Jon D's avatar - calotterylogo
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                              Posted: July 22, 2013, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

                              This boy is simply ones from our small online community of lottery players.

                              The Loto Maxima game used real drawing machines (the same which used in USA).

                              Ukrainian National Lottery was founded with little help (in organizational questions) of Florida lottery. I was read an article about it.

                              Looks like Ukraine Lottery uses the same operator GTECH that Florida, California and many other US states use. But still, the local lottery has responsibility to run those games that are provided by the operator in a truthful and transparent manner.

                              Also, an English tip for you:

                              Do not use the word "boy" unless you are talking about a small child. Use "guy" instead. Talking about "guys" as "boys" sounds very strange and insulting to Americans.