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 Posted: August 14, 2013, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

Found another pattern that seems to repeat often enough. As usual, I've only tested Florida...

 3/28/2012 DAY 3 8 9 3/28/2012 EVE 8 1 1 3/29/2012 DAY 2 9 0 3/29/2012 EVE 7 9 0 3/30/2012 DAY 3 7 7 3/30/2012 EVE 1 5 5 3/31/2012 DAY 2 1 4 3/31/2012 EVE 5 7 9 4/1/2012 DAY 3 3 0 4/1/2012 EVE 6 5 7 4/2/2012 DAY 9 5 7 4/2/2012 EVE 5 3 2 4/3/2012 DAY 2 9 9 4/3/2012 EVE 8 0 1

First, I look for a pattern. The pattern occurs on 3/28 in this example. The number 8 carries over but the other draw is a double. Make sure any given number doesn't appear more than twice out of all 6 numbers (both draws of three positions).

Since the 8 carried over, that's our first number. Next, the double is a 1, so that's the next number. Finally, position three is the draw after (to be fair, the draw before the pattern hits also works) the pattern hits. In this example, it's 2-9-0 from 3/29 DAY. Our playable numbers would be:

Position A: 8
Position B: 1
Position C: 2/9/0

Boxed: 810, 812, 819

Straight: 018, 081, 108, 128, 180, 182, 189, 198, 218, 281, 801, 810, 812, 819, 821, 891, 918, 981

8-0-1 hits on 4/3 EVE.

Check your state. Does this happen anywhere else?

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 12:02 am - IP Logged

Found another pattern that seems to repeat often enough. As usual, I've only tested Florida...

 3/28/2012 DAY 3 8 9 3/28/2012 EVE 8 1 1 3/29/2012 DAY 2 9 0 3/29/2012 EVE 7 9 0 3/30/2012 DAY 3 7 7 3/30/2012 EVE 1 5 5 3/31/2012 DAY 2 1 4 3/31/2012 EVE 5 7 9 4/1/2012 DAY 3 3 0 4/1/2012 EVE 6 5 7 4/2/2012 DAY 9 5 7 4/2/2012 EVE 5 3 2 4/3/2012 DAY 2 9 9 4/3/2012 EVE 8 0 1

First, I look for a pattern. The pattern occurs on 3/28 in this example. The number 8 carries over but the other draw is a double. Make sure any given number doesn't appear more than twice out of all 6 numbers (both draws of three positions).

Since the 8 carried over, that's our first number. Next, the double is a 1, so that's the next number. Finally, position three is the draw after (to be fair, the draw before the pattern hits also works) the pattern hits. In this example, it's 2-9-0 from 3/29 DAY. Our playable numbers would be:

Position A: 8
Position B: 1
Position C: 2/9/0

Boxed: 810, 812, 819

Straight: 018, 081, 108, 128, 180, 182, 189, 198, 218, 281, 801, 810, 812, 819, 821, 891, 918, 981

8-0-1 hits on 4/3 EVE.

Check your state. Does this happen anywhere else?

Manual

Can you point me to another example of this ?  If you have one .

Would this qualify  ?

 Sat, Aug 3, 2013 Fri, Aug 2, 2013 Thu, Aug 1, 2013 4-6-8 5-0-8 6-8-8-6 3-8-9-3 3-6-3 0-0-6 1-4-5-6 4-8-6-0 8-1-8 7-6-1 1-7-9-7 5-7-7-3

So  638      631   would be what we are watching for ?

Or am I misunderstanding ?

Thanks

Carlig

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Sure. I probably made the mistake of looking at these patterns so much, I didn't do a great job of explaining it. Let me try again. The key with this is the pattern rules. However, first I should probably go into how I'm viewing the data. I'm looking at DAY and EVE draws together, sorted by date. So Day 1 is two records. The first one is the Day Draw, the second is the EVE draw. Here's the first ten days of April 2012:

 4/1/2012 DAY 3 3 0 4/1/2012 EVE 6 5 7 4/2/2012 DAY 9 5 7 4/2/2012 EVE 5 3 2 4/3/2012 DAY 2 9 9 4/3/2012 EVE 8 0 1 4/4/2012 DAY 1 3 7 4/4/2012 EVE 6 5 4 4/5/2012 DAY 1 0 8 4/5/2012 EVE 6 4 9 4/6/2012 DAY 6 6 4 4/6/2012 EVE 6 5 5 4/7/2012 DAY 1 2 9 4/7/2012 EVE 8 9 2 4/8/2012 DAY 1 3 0 4/8/2012 EVE 1 5 1 4/9/2012 DAY 3 9 2 4/9/2012 EVE 1 8 2 4/10/2012 DAY 5 1 1 4/10/2012 EVE 6 6 0

The first thing I look for is doubles. 4/1 DAY is a double but there's no carry over, so I move on. The next double is 2-9-9 from 4/3 DAY. The 2 also carries over from 4/2 EVE (*also, no number appears more than two times for 4/2 EVE and 4/3 DAY). I currently haven't found a pattern that gives me an idea about which position a number will fall so think of these sets as boxed. That's why I refer to them as Positions A, B, & C instead of 1, 2, & 3. Here's how I get the numbers for each position (boxed).

Position A = 4/2 EVE and 4/3 DAY carry over number is 2
Position B = 4/3 DAY double, which is 9
Position C = All three numbers from the draw that followed the pattern. In this example, that's 4/3 EVE: 8-0-1

My boxed sets would be: 290, 291, 298

1-2-9 hits on 4/7 DAY
8-9-2 hits on 4/6 EVE

Having two hits is a bit unusual, typically it's just one.

*If a number appears more than twice, you probably won't see a hit using this method. I have no explanation why, it's just what I've been seeing while testing. I would think that if a number appeared more, it would increase the chances on it coming up again but that doesn't seem to be the case. For example, if the numbers were 5-9-2 and 2-9-9, I would ignore that and move on. Sometimes it hits, but most of the time it does not.

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 2:05 am - IP Logged

Sure. I probably made the mistake of looking at these patterns so much, I didn't do a great job of explaining it. Let me try again. The key with this is the pattern rules. However, first I should probably go into how I'm viewing the data. I'm looking at DAY and EVE draws together, sorted by date. So Day 1 is two records. The first one is the Day Draw, the second is the EVE draw. Here's the first ten days of April 2012:

 4/1/2012 DAY 3 3 0 4/1/2012 EVE 6 5 7 4/2/2012 DAY 9 5 7 4/2/2012 EVE 5 3 2 4/3/2012 DAY 2 9 9 4/3/2012 EVE 8 0 1 4/4/2012 DAY 1 3 7 4/4/2012 EVE 6 5 4 4/5/2012 DAY 1 0 8 4/5/2012 EVE 6 4 9 4/6/2012 DAY 6 6 4 4/6/2012 EVE 6 5 5 4/7/2012 DAY 1 2 9 4/7/2012 EVE 8 9 2 4/8/2012 DAY 1 3 0 4/8/2012 EVE 1 5 1 4/9/2012 DAY 3 9 2 4/9/2012 EVE 1 8 2 4/10/2012 DAY 5 1 1 4/10/2012 EVE 6 6 0

The first thing I look for is doubles. 4/1 DAY is a double but there's no carry over, so I move on. The next double is 2-9-9 from 4/3 DAY. The 2 also carries over from 4/2 EVE (*also, no number appears more than two times for 4/2 EVE and 4/3 DAY). I currently haven't found a pattern that gives me an idea about which position a number will fall so think of these sets as boxed. That's why I refer to them as Positions A, B, & C instead of 1, 2, & 3. Here's how I get the numbers for each position (boxed).

Position A = 4/2 EVE and 4/3 DAY carry over number is 2
Position B = 4/3 DAY double, which is 9
Position C = All three numbers from the draw that followed the pattern. In this example, that's 4/3 EVE: 8-0-1

My boxed sets would be: 290, 291, 298

1-2-9 hits on 4/7 DAY
8-9-2 hits on 4/6 EVE

Having two hits is a bit unusual, typically it's just one.

*If a number appears more than twice, you probably won't see a hit using this method. I have no explanation why, it's just what I've been seeing while testing. I would think that if a number appeared more, it would increase the chances on it coming up again but that doesn't seem to be the case. For example, if the numbers were 5-9-2 and 2-9-9, I would ignore that and move on. Sometimes it hits, but most of the time it does not.

Thanks Manual

Im going to give this a try again .. Will do some testing in the morning

CG

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 2:16 am - IP Logged

You explained it perfectly this time .

I will rework my data so that day is on top. I usually work the opposite .

This looks like a great find.

Thank You

Carlig

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I'm attempting to find patterns that might show when to use the set before the pattern or after the pattern for Position C. I'd rather not play both since that brings the playable set count up. If you just use one, that's so few numbers, one can stand to play the numbers a bit longer to get the hit and still come out ahead. It would be even better if there was a way to tell which position the numbers might fall. Getting the straight more often would really put this in the profitable column.

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I found yet another pattern, hit's the best thus far, and hits come quicker too. Cost is still low enough to actually play this one based on the hits it gets. So, I ran the numbers to start playing and came up with: 050, 080, 250, 280, 520, 550, 580. 5-8-0 hit midday today. :( What are the odds? Guess I'll play the variant and hope it comes up as well... 330, 390, 500, 530, 590, 900, 930, 990

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I found yet another pattern, hit's the best thus far, and hits come quicker too. Cost is still low enough to actually play this one based on the hits it gets. So, I ran the numbers to start playing and came up with: 050, 080, 250, 280, 520, 550, 580. 5-8-0 hit midday today. :( What are the odds? Guess I'll play the variant and hope it comes up as well... 330, 390, 500, 530, 590, 900, 930, 990

Great!!!  Can't wait to see what that pattern is.

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That's a longer write up. Haven't seen much interest in this so wasn't planning on taking the time to do it.

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That's a longer write up. Haven't seen much interest in this so wasn't planning on taking the time to do it.

You just caught my eye!!! Keep going!!!

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I really need to code this one. The workout isn't horrible but trying to do a date range for back testing is tedious. I tested 7/1/13 to 7/10/13 and the pattern occurred 15 times. Out of the 15 occurrences, this would have hit 13 times. Since the numbers jump all over the place as far as position goes, I could just play the same order ever time and turn the box hits into straights. The straight/box play type in Florida would be perfect.

For example, the latest two draws for Florida match the pattern. So then I apply the system and come up with these numbers off of the EVE draw: 021, 025, 026, 051, 055, 056, 081, 085, 086

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I really need to code this one. The workout isn't horrible but trying to do a date range for back testing is tedious. I tested 7/1/13 to 7/10/13 and the pattern occurred 15 times. Out of the 15 occurrences, this would have hit 13 times. Since the numbers jump all over the place as far as position goes, I could just play the same order ever time and turn the box hits into straights. The straight/box play type in Florida would be perfect.

For example, the latest two draws for Florida match the pattern. So then I apply the system and come up with these numbers off of the EVE draw: 021, 025, 026, 051, 055, 056, 081, 085, 086

WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY

I think I can I think I can!!!!

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 Posted: August 15, 2013, 9:21 pm - IP Logged

That's a longer write up. Haven't seen much interest in this so wasn't planning on taking the time to do it.

Hope you change your mind and write it up..

or give us a clue so at least we know what to look for and where ..

Thanks Manual

Carlig

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That's a longer write up. Haven't seen much interest in this so wasn't planning on taking the time to do it.

manual are you saying you only look at the doubles or do you need all the numbers?

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