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u\$a
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williamson county
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Let Assumed my discrete points for the digit 1 is 8679, then my picks are reduced. Using the above text data , check the corresponding positions of digit 1,, from draw 2  1   3, your points 8 and 6  is verified at pos 2, check  draw 1   2   8   ,  the points 7 and 8 is verified at position(s) one.

In Tennessee i tested this and after a pair hits back to back it takes anywhere from 11 to 21 draws to repeat........14 draws was the most dominent......

now in tennessee i track the 2 digit return......and this helps me with my third digit..........still alot of numbers to play......but i then use my triads to  narrow

down a little bit more.........this is another tool.   thanks for sharing.

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Continuing to work on the pattern and what not. Figured I'd share this... The following three set groups are the current "active" sets that have not yet hit in FL. So far there have been 10 total pattern matches in August. 1 of those missed completly (didn't hit boxed or straight). 3 would've hit boxed and 3 would've hit straight, using the current configuration I'm using.

Group 1: 119, 129, 149, 419, 429, 449, 719, 729, 749
Group 2: 311, 351, 361, 711, 751, 761, 911, 951, 961
Group 3: 131, 141, 181, 531, 541, 581, 631, 641, 681

Each of the above groups were generated when a pattern hit. They should be treated competely separate. Meaning, each group has a fair chance to hit once (more than one hit is unusual). Wish I could figure out the box vs. straight thing. I hit the 0-0-8 today but boxed... :( \$80 is better than nothing.

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Continuing to work on the pattern and what not. Figured I'd share this... The following three set groups are the current "active" sets that have not yet hit in FL. So far there have been 10 total pattern matches in August. 1 of those missed completly (didn't hit boxed or straight). 3 would've hit boxed and 3 would've hit straight, using the current configuration I'm using.

Group 1: 119, 129, 149, 419, 429, 449, 719, 729, 749
Group 2: 311, 351, 361, 711, 751, 761, 911, 951, 961
Group 3: 131, 141, 181, 531, 541, 581, 631, 641, 681

Each of the above groups were generated when a pattern hit. They should be treated competely separate. Meaning, each group has a fair chance to hit once (more than one hit is unusual). Wish I could figure out the box vs. straight thing. I hit the 0-0-8 today but boxed... :( \$80 is better than nothing.

Playing the 816 for Mid.

Florida
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Still working hard on this system. Making some progress but still trying to nail down the straight beyond going based on what happens the most. For the sake of predicting, I'll try a new set.

431, 432, 438, 731, 732, 738, 831, 832, 838

This is for Florida. Mid tends to hit a lot more than Eve (based on about two months of data). The straight/box option is best for where I'm at with this system so far. While sometimes the numbers do hit the day after, anything after 9/13 I consider a miss.

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Still working hard on this system. Making some progress but still trying to nail down the straight beyond going based on what happens the most. For the sake of predicting, I'll try a new set.

431, 432, 438, 731, 732, 738, 831, 832, 838

This is for Florida. Mid tends to hit a lot more than Eve (based on about two months of data). The straight/box option is best for where I'm at with this system so far. While sometimes the numbers do hit the day after, anything after 9/13 I consider a miss.

How much game Data (History) are you using ???

Florida
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Much to my surprise, only 10 days. I've found that if I go back more than 15 days the hits go way down. I've been concentration on data so much, it never occurred to me to look at patterns. Now I'm trying to make sure I don't let any of my preconceptions get in the way. I can't believe there's a repeatable pattern that actually gets hits. Don't get me wrong, everything has a flaw. I think it was April or May of this years. There were only a few patterns and even fewer hits. On the other hand, in August there were 9 pattern matches. Three haven't hit but still have some time:

066, 064, 065, 026, 024, 025, 016, 014, 015: Playable until 9/5
706, 700, 701, 796, 790, 791, 766, 760, 761: Playable until 9/6
431, 432, 438, 731, 732, 738, 831, 832, 838: Playable until 9/13

July had 14 pattern matches and two missed. The first miss there was weird, I probably wouldn't have played it anyway. The second matching set was the same as the first, which I haven't seen before so I wasn't sure what to do with it. I'm attempting to come up with 'rules' to follow to get the most hits. I have a small list as it stands. Still working on how to get a straight more often than not. I've been working on a spreadsheet that keeps track of the patterns. Hoping that will shed some insight.

There are 9 possible ways to play the numbers once a pattern match is found. In July, two configurations hit 4 times. The others hit less than that. So if one of those configurations were played every time. Out of the 14 pattern matches, 2 would have missed completely 4 would have hit straight, 8 would've been boxed. So, I'm trying to either reduce the playable numbers (9 isn't bad, 3 would be great) or finding out which configuration to use.

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any chance of seeing this in a spreadsheet by ranman or carlig?

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any chance of seeing this in a spreadsheet by ranman or carlig?

That would be nice.

Florida
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This system would be difficult to do in a spreadsheet. I suppose you could do it in VBA. I've been working on getting it up on my site so others could test it but I haven't had a lot of free time lately.

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I'm curious if this works as well in other states. If anyone is willing, I'd like to test a few states (the testing does take some time so maybe 2-3 people would be a good start). If anyone has the data for your state (not FL), please get it to me. I only need 60 days or so. It can be recent or historical. I just need it in a format like Draw Date, Draw Time (Mid/Eve), Position 1, Position 2, Position 3. You can copy/paste the information (from Excel so it keeps the formatting) here or just get me the spreadsheet. I'll post the results. Thank you to anyone who participates.

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Looking for help with reducing the final sets just a little more. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. First, let me start at the beginning. Look at the following draws for FL.

 1/26/2012 DAY 2 1 3 1/26/2012 EVE 1 2 4 1/27/2012 DAY 7 8 9 1/27/2012 EVE 8 6 2 1/28/2012 DAY 1 5 2 1/28/2012 EVE 2 2 9 1/29/2012 DAY 2 6 1

I've found that when two numbers carry over back to back, they hit again shortly, most of the time. So from there, I go to a tool I've been working on (forgive the rough cut, it's a work in progress, in my free time, it still needs plenty of coding and testing...): http://lottodrawodds.com/tools/pick3_NumberGenerator.aspx

In the "Numbers to use in any position" area, I choose 1 for Position A, 2 for Position B, and then 0-9 for Position C (1 and 2 are the carry over numbers, the last position covers the position I don't know). That gives me 54 sets. Playing that many would probably result in a loss because sometimes the hit will come the next day. Other times it might take 10 days. Either way, I don't want to play 54 sets. So next, set the date on the page to 1/27/2012. Then choose the "Sum Total" chart (the chart ideas belong to Domeman, he's got ideas on working with the data that I never thought of). The first chart shows what sums have hit. To me it looks like I can safely git rid of sums 0-5. Next, if the pattern follows, I can probably get rid of 17-27 as well. That brings me down to 42 numbers. Still too much. I still need to finish all of the filters I have on that page. That will probably reduce the sets by 10 or so. Still leaving me around 30 sets. So here's the challenge... Can anyone find a pattern to nail down the third position? Failing that, any way to futher reduce the playable sets? Maybe find a pattern so as to know which number will fall in a position? Can anyone think of any other filters I could add?

Maybe, just maybe, this link will help http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/s4/f2/dsk3/OWTU/TC-OWTU-428.pdf  . I understand, you been a programmer, you are more into stats, but step back with staticts and algorithm part and digest the philosophical aspect of above link.

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No takers on testing more states is a bit disappointing. In any case, I coded this up so others could try it out. A fellow LP member pointed me to a place where I can get the numbers for all states. As time allows, I'll look into using that to get all states on my site. For now, it seems the system works pretty well for every state I have enough data for. I still need to add in a rule or two, just haven't had the time to do it. So it's producing a few more misses than usual. Here's the link. If anyone notices anything that can help nail down more straight hits, please let me know.

http://lottodrawodds.com/pick3/system5.aspx

adobea, thank you for the pdf. I'm looking into it. Quite a bit of material there.

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I'll test it for PA manual, I just didn't know how to give you the data for it

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Long as I have the Draw Date, Draw Time (Mid/Eve), Position 1, 2, 3... Delivery can be anything. Email it to me, copy/paste from Excel to here. Whatever is easy for you. You've been supportive of the things I come up with. Hopefully, I can get PA on my site soon!

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