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Astekblue

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Aug 23, 2013, 11:07 am

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This Country/ World needs more men and women like you Astekblue & Nydebbie

There are a Lot of us on here that feels the same way about you dallas

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America voted for a swirl down the drain of socialism. Happy swirling America.

If you mean the majority of voters in both parties... we agree! Socialism is always bad when the other party is running deficits, right?

As far as this woman is concerned im glad she wanted to help people but no one asks to see the details of who is being helped. Who is the executor of her estate hmmm? It may be some slick lawyer that divorced his first wife and married his secretary half his age and now has bought her 2 waterfront mansions with this deceised womans winnings. Where are the details? Maybe her son is the executor and is living it up in the bahama's on 90% of the money for "executor expenses" and only giving 10% to charities. Where are the details?

If you don't know the legality of "charity" law look it up you would be amazed how little actually has to go for the cause. For most here its just "the thought that counts" but not for me. Corruption is high on this sort of thing at worst and a tax haven at best so much of the time. Let me say im ALL FOR CHARITY but its darn hard to make sure the money gets to where its suppost to go. cheers.

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Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on Aug 23, 2013
If you mean the majority of voters in both parties... we agree! Socialism is always bad when the other party is running deficits, right?

As far as this woman is concerned im glad she wanted to help people but no one asks to see the details of who is being helped. Who is the executor of her estate hmmm? It may be some slick lawyer that divorced his first wife and married his secretary half his age and now has bought her 2 waterfront mansions with this deceised womans winnings. Where are the details? Maybe her son is the executor and is living it up in the bahama's on 90% of the money for "executor expenses" and only giving 10% to charities. Where are the details?

If you don't know the legality of "charity" law look it up you would be amazed how little actually has to go for the cause. For most here its just "the thought that counts" but not for me. Corruption is high on this sort of thing at worst and a tax haven at best so much of the time. Let me say im ALL FOR CHARITY but its darn hard to make sure the money gets to where its suppost to go. cheers.

veganlife125 -->

Dip<snip> did you read the original post? There's a foundation that is doing the giving, not her estate.

The Ryan Foundation, which she established shortly after her windfall, helped everyone from children, to abused women, to senior citizens and stray animals. "I think it was by the grace of God I won," Mrs. Ryan said in 1989, as quoted in her New York Times obituary. "I realized there must have been a reason He gave me the money, so I decided to give some of it to senior citizens and the homeless." Today, her Ryan Foundation lives on and continues toEddessa give to 20-25 organizations each year, says spokesperson Pamela Ohab. "If you had her as a friend," Ohab says, "you really only needed one friend."

Your greed of envy is showing. Way to ruin a nice story.

God did bless Sheelah Ryan with a charitable heart, and she continues to give beyond the grave through her foundation. Thank you for the story eddessaknight.

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Aug 23, 2013, 10:18 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Piaceri on Aug 23, 2013
veganlife125 -->

Dip<snip> did you read the original post? There's a foundation that is doing the giving, not her estate.

The Ryan Foundation, which she established shortly after her windfall, helped everyone from children, to abused women, to senior citizens and stray animals. "I think it was by the grace of God I won," Mrs. Ryan said in 1989, as quoted in her New York Times obituary. "I realized there must have been a reason He gave me the money, so I decided to give some of it to senior citizens and the homeless." Today, her Ryan Foundation lives on and continues toEddessa give to 20-25 organizations each year, says spokesperson Pamela Ohab. "If you had her as a friend," Ohab says, "you really only needed one friend."

Your greed of envy is showing. Way to ruin a nice story.

God did bless Sheelah Ryan with a charitable heart, and she continues to give beyond the grave through her foundation. Thank you for the story eddessaknight.

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Amen. She was a good person and did the right thing. She has helped many people. I always wanted to set up a charitable foundation as well.
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Aug 24, 2013, 1:42 am

Quote: Originally posted by Piaceri on Aug 23, 2013
veganlife125 -->

Dip<snip> did you read the original post? There's a foundation that is doing the giving, not her estate.

The Ryan Foundation, which she established shortly after her windfall, helped everyone from children, to abused women, to senior citizens and stray animals. "I think it was by the grace of God I won," Mrs. Ryan said in 1989, as quoted in her New York Times obituary. "I realized there must have been a reason He gave me the money, so I decided to give some of it to senior citizens and the homeless." Today, her Ryan Foundation lives on and continues toEddessa give to 20-25 organizations each year, says spokesperson Pamela Ohab. "If you had her as a friend," Ohab says, "you really only needed one friend."

Your greed of envy is showing. Way to ruin a nice story.

God did bless Sheelah Ryan with a charitable heart, and she continues to give beyond the grave through her foundation. Thank you for the story eddessaknight.

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I thought you were smarter than that. Just because you know the name of a charity and what they say they are doing doesn't verify a <snip> thing. I hope this Ryan Foundation is doing right with the money but i don't have any access to their books do you? What are the percentages? My post referred to these entities in a general sense because so many steal the money. Remember Ronald Reagan saying "trust but verify"? I have seen a mountain of trust and a grain of verification in charities. I gave credit to the woman for helping people you reread my post. I didn't ruin anything.

Now you accused me of "Your greed of envy". How can someone be greedy of envy? Thats a new one on me. Let me give you the truth about those terms deary. Almost everytime Jane calls John greedy its Jane thats envious. Greed is not wanting to keep whats yours. Greed is wanting what belongs to someone else.

Lastly, i remember liking most of your posts but lets cut to the chase because i think i hit a nerve somewhere that wasn't mentioned. I'll take a crack at it: "Divorced his first wife and married his secretary half his age and now has bought her 2 waterfront mansions with the deceased womans winnings."

cheers

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Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on Aug 24, 2013
I thought you were smarter than that. Just because you know the name of a charity and what they say they are doing doesn't verify a <snip> thing. I hope this Ryan Foundation is doing right with the money but i don't have any access to their books do you? What are the percentages? My post referred to these entities in a general sense because so many steal the money. Remember Ronald Reagan saying "trust but verify"? I have seen a mountain of trust and a grain of verification in charities. I gave credit to the woman for helping people you reread my post. I didn't ruin anything.

Now you accused me of "Your greed of envy". How can someone be greedy of envy? Thats a new one on me. Let me give you the truth about those terms deary. Almost everytime Jane calls John greedy its Jane thats envious. Greed is not wanting to keep whats yours. Greed is wanting what belongs to someone else.

Lastly, i remember liking most of your posts but lets cut to the chase because i think i hit a nerve somewhere that wasn't mentioned. I'll take a crack at it: "Divorced his first wife and married his secretary half his age and now has bought her 2 waterfront mansions with the deceased womans winnings."

cheers

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There is this wonderful invention called the internet. It is easy to check out a charity online. I won't post the links but there are many resources. To vilify a little old lady who gave far more to charity than most lottery winners would, says a lot. And who determines if her foundation did right? Do you know there are legal requirements for establishing a foundation? And when you set up a foundation, YOU determine where your money will go and you will receive it. Sometimes people trash generous people to make themselves feel better.

I remember years ago making a donation to a well known charity (office related) and a then coworker found out and was actually very mad and said to me "well it does not make you a good person!"...lol (and this was a woman who spent her time chasing a married male colleague). There are lots of people like this.
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Aug 24, 2013, 4:07 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 24, 2013
There is this wonderful invention called the internet. It is easy to check out a charity online. I won't post the links but there are many resources. To vilify a little old lady who gave far more to charity than most lottery winners would, says a lot. And who determines if her foundation did right? Do you know there are legal requirements for establishing a foundation? And when you set up a foundation, YOU determine where your money will go and you will receive it. Sometimes people trash generous people to make themselves feel better.

I remember years ago making a donation to a well known charity (office related) and a then coworker found out and was actually very mad and said to me "well it does not make you a good person!"...lol (and this was a woman who spent her time chasing a married male colleague). There are lots of people like this.

People like VeggieHead, who have a litany of excuses for not giving to charities are just cheapskates.

"Well I'd give if only I knew it was going to the starving kids and not being stolen."

Yeah right.

They'd all starve before miserly skinflint tightwads like that would give a nickle.
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Aug 24, 2013, 4:44 pm

I remember when she won that and the foundation she set up was one of the good and legitimate charities that helped out many in need.

It is always a good idea to check out any charity you may want to give to no matter how well-known they are. There are a lot of big names that are scams.

Doing a Google search with the name of the charity and the word "scam" may give some interesting info (example: "United Way scam" or "Komen scam").

Many national "charities" have wrong priorities with too much of donations going toward high salaries and fancy buildings. The people or causes that need it may only get a very small percentage, if anything, of what you give.

My preference is to give to local charities that I could personally check out...and never give to anyone who cold calls on the phone representing a charity as most of these are scams (ask them to send you a copy of their financial information that you can verify and see how quick they either hang up or ignore the request).
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Aug 31, 2013, 11:47 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Aug 24, 2013
There is this wonderful invention called the internet. It is easy to check out a charity online. I won't post the links but there are many resources. To vilify a little old lady who gave far more to charity than most lottery winners would, says a lot. And who determines if her foundation did right? Do you know there are legal requirements for establishing a foundation? And when you set up a foundation, YOU determine where your money will go and you will receive it. Sometimes people trash generous people to make themselves feel better.

I remember years ago making a donation to a well known charity (office related) and a then coworker found out and was actually very mad and said to me "well it does not make you a good person!"...lol (and this was a woman who spent her time chasing a married male colleague). There are lots of people like this.

I gave that woman credit for trying to do the right thing read the post. I was just saying a whole lot of people are naive to think the money is going to go where they want it to if they don't stay heavily involved.

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Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Aug 24, 2013
People like VeggieHead, who have a litany of excuses for not giving to charities are just cheapskates.

"Well I'd give if only I knew it was going to the starving kids and not being stolen."

Yeah right.

They'd all starve before miserly skinflint tightwads like that would give a nickle.

Hey Meathead i've been out of pocket but i'm back to straighten you out. It's ones like you that blindly give to charities and then don't follow up. Why? It's because your lazy. Real charity should include your time as well as money whenever possible. Try this. Say you want to give away $2000 this year in charity. Rent a Uhaul and go to a Costco or Sam's club(or wherever you want) and buy that much in bulk food and take it to a food bank giveaway at Christmans time. This way you can experience charity in the first person vernacular. Giving away your money in small food bags or plate dinners give you alot more satifaction because you can actually see, hear, and feel the reactions of "the children". You can't put a price on this kind of bonding. Try it sometime instead of making 3000 posts a year.

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Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on Sep 1, 2013
Hey Meathead i've been out of pocket but i'm back to straighten you out. It's ones like you that blindly give to charities and then don't follow up. Why? It's because your lazy. Real charity should include your time as well as money whenever possible. Try this. Say you want to give away $2000 this year in charity. Rent a Uhaul and go to a Costco or Sam's club(or wherever you want) and buy that much in bulk food and take it to a food bank giveaway at Christmans time. This way you can experience charity in the first person vernacular. Giving away your money in small food bags or plate dinners give you alot more satifaction because you can actually see, hear, and feel the reactions of "the children". You can't put a price on this kind of bonding. Try it sometime instead of making 3000 posts a year.

cheers

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them, otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand knoweth what thy right hand doeth:

That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

-Matthew 6: 1-4

Tell us again how wonderful you are, El Cheapo.

We believe every word of it.
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Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Sep 1, 2013
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them, otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand knoweth what thy right hand doeth:

That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

-Matthew 6: 1-4

Tell us again how wonderful you are, El Cheapo.

We believe every word of it.

Stop with the "quilt manipulation" will ya? Quoting scripture doesn't make you right you know. Since your throwing them at me here's one for you:

A sound heart is the life of the flesh:

But envy the rottenness of the bones. (Proverbs 14:30)

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Sep 6, 2013, 1:56 pm

Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on Sep 6, 2013
Stop with the "quilt manipulation" will ya? Quoting scripture doesn't make you right you know. Since your throwing them at me here's one for you:

A sound heart is the life of the flesh:

But envy the rottenness of the bones. (Proverbs 14:30)

cheers

Au contraire, écrous engourdis.

Don't change the subject, son.

Tell us more about the thousands you spend renting trailers and hauling food to feed the poor when you're too cheap (or can't even afford) to buy a Lottery Post Membership.

How about it, El Cheapo?
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Sep 6, 2013, 2:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Sep 6, 2013
Au contraire, écrous engourdis.

Don't change the subject, son.

Tell us more about the thousands you spend renting trailers and hauling food to feed the poor when you're too cheap (or can't even afford) to buy a Lottery Post Membership.

How about it, El Cheapo?

How about a bottle of good ol "Crown Royal" on the house instead of that cheap whiskey you been drinking Ridge. See i ain't that cheap.

Salud!

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Sep 9, 2013, 7:38 am

I agree with Maddog10, if its done right, it will succeed. Anyone who hoards big winnings like that is a greedy person. You have to help and give back. Not to say give like a fool, but remember The Red Cross, Homeless, etc..

Money is a terrible master, but a great servant...

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