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Do we really want all states to be able to claim anonymously

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Posted: January 1, 2014, 6:08 pm - IP Logged

I know we have some but to me it seems that there are too much room for fraud if we dont get to know who actually won a jackpot prize. I mean I hate the fact that there are beggars out there that bother people, but for me I need to know that some real person has actually won and not some fat cat lottery official or something. Me personally I wouldnt care who freaking knew i won, cause i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- so I definately wouldnt have a problem telling that to someone after i won LOL. That's just me though. Happy New Year everybody


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    I know we have some but to me it seems that there are too much room for fraud if we dont get to know who actually won a jackpot prize. I mean I hate the fact that there are beggars out there that bother people, but for me I need to know that some real person has actually won and not some fat cat lottery official or something. Me personally I wouldnt care who freaking knew i won, cause i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- so I definately wouldnt have a problem telling that to someone after i won LOL. That's just me though. Happy New Year everybody

    I think it would be a good idea.

    I think originally the ideas was that people need to believe that the lottery "could" be won.

    So, they need to see the face.

    "Look!  Jon D Rocafella won the lottery!! You can too!!"

    I dont think at this point the lottery needs any advertising.

    Very large Jackpots might need advertising.

    So when they have a 500 million dollar jackpot, they can post a picture of "golden gloria" saying


    "Hey geriatrichs!!! You can win too!!! Send us a large portion of your social security check!!  Dont forget to play!!!"

    I think the winners info would still be public.  Its not like they are concealing themselves.

    Its just when I win I dont want my face plastered on the bloodsucking soulless "Daily News", within 48 hours.

     i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he--

     

    You know the other day somebody asked me for money.  You know what I did?

    I looked at his shoes, I gritted my teeth and I said, "Hey what the least expensive soda you sell here?"

     

    I dont think I got a thank you but I did fork over my hard earned lottery winnings and said "Merry Christmas."

    I guess I am just a sucker for this time of the season.

     

     

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      Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:08 pm - IP Logged

      I know we have some but to me it seems that there are too much room for fraud if we dont get to know who actually won a jackpot prize. I mean I hate the fact that there are beggars out there that bother people, but for me I need to know that some real person has actually won and not some fat cat lottery official or something. Me personally I wouldnt care who freaking knew i won, cause i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- so I definately wouldnt have a problem telling that to someone after i won LOL. That's just me though. Happy New Year everybody

      SmileI concur.

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        Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:10 pm - IP Logged

        I see what you're saying but i guess Im just a little apprehensive when it comes to not showing an actual winner. I know people dont want to be bothered but is it really a bother when you got millions in the bank and it is up to you and only you who you decide to give it to? To me it wouldnt be. I'd love to be in that position

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          Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:22 pm - IP Logged

          We need to copy Australia. Their playslips have a "NP' box to check off........No Publicity.

          The U.S. states that do allow winners to be anonymous don't seem to be having problems with it, so why not other states?

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:30 pm - IP Logged

            Sometimes it's more than just the people that ask for money, it's the criminal element I'd like to avoid.  People that file frivolous lawsuits, hoping that you'll settle, people that target you and your family whether it's to rob you or worse, etc.  I remember reading an article where the author recommended kidnap/ransom insurance to big lottery winners.  Before I read that article, it didn't occur to me that it would be a possibility.

            I would like the option to keep anonymous, but in my state, that's not an option.  Claiming via a Trust/LLC is not an option either anymore.

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              Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:38 pm - IP Logged

              For me it's not soo much about being bothered, it's the dangerous people out there who may make me or my family a target. I do understand the other side and keeping the lottery honest, but i just don't think it outweights the safety of winners and their family.

              In all truth, if the lottery is gonna be dishonest about winners kept private, then there is no reason then to expect them to be honest about the people they name as winners either. I don't know these people and highly doubt anyone else does either except their family and friends. I don't think they are dishonest now, nor do i think they would be if players were kept private. They are soo heavily regulated and suspect of abuse by the public because of being the lottery. Not saying it's impossible and stuff does happen, but i do believe it's very rare and isolated when it does happen.

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                Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

                I know we have some but to me it seems that there are too much room for fraud if we dont get to know who actually won a jackpot prize. I mean I hate the fact that there are beggars out there that bother people, but for me I need to know that some real person has actually won and not some fat cat lottery official or something. Me personally I wouldnt care who freaking knew i won, cause i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- so I definately wouldnt have a problem telling that to someone after i won LOL. That's just me though. Happy New Year everybody

                "... i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- ..."

                And hospitality do not forget; for by this some, being not aware of it, have entertained Angels.

                -Hebrews 13: 2

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                  Posted: January 1, 2014, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                  Just wait one year from the date the money was transferred to the winner before their name is released.

                  That would allow the winner(s) to get their stuff in order and prepare themselves for becoming known publicly as lottery winners.

                  As someone who wants to claim via trust, i would be on board with that move.

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                    mrcraft,

                    I remember one story about Al Qaeda putting the bite on a jackpot winner. Nobody needs that.

                    ttech10,

                    I'm not sure sure that a one year 'flash to bang' time' would really help all that much. In fact, it might cause a lot more resentment when the winner's name is made public.

                    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                    Lep

                    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                      For me it's not soo much about being bothered, it's the dangerous people out there who may make me or my family a target. I do understand the other side and keeping the lottery honest, but i just don't think it outweights the safety of winners and their family.

                      In all truth, if the lottery is gonna be dishonest about winners kept private, then there is no reason then to expect them to be honest about the people they name as winners either. I don't know these people and highly doubt anyone else does either except their family and friends. I don't think they are dishonest now, nor do i think they would be if players were kept private. They are soo heavily regulated and suspect of abuse by the public because of being the lottery. Not saying it's impossible and stuff does happen, but i do believe it's very rare and isolated when it does happen.

                      THANK GOD!! Someone who gets it. Why do people feel anonymity is simply to stop people from bugging them. It's about a person's safety. The safety of their family. Why should anyone's paranoia outweigh that. As if presenting someone in front of a camera is really a fraud deterrant.

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                        Posted: January 2, 2014, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

                        "... i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- ..."

                        And hospitality do not forget; for by this some, being not aware of it, have entertained Angels.

                        -Hebrews 13: 2

                        Absolutely Ridge! I can't imagine the bad karma accumulating for telling a homeless person to "go to He--."  Really unnecessary. If you don't want to give a dollar or two, just say "sorry, I don't have any change."

                        J'aime La France.

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                          rgdrnr, Artist77,

                          The angels unaware passage is true, but there are charlantans out there that want you to think they are the angels you are unaware of and they prey upon Christians that way.

                          That's why He also gave us discernment.

                          Work out your own salvation, with fear and trembling.

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                            Posted: January 2, 2014, 11:01 pm - IP Logged

                            We need to copy Australia. Their playslips have a "NP' box to check off........No Publicity.

                            The U.S. states that do allow winners to be anonymous don't seem to be having problems with it, so why not other states?

                            I Agree!             100  %

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                              Posted: January 2, 2014, 11:14 pm - IP Logged

                              "... i tell people who ask me for money now to go to he-- ..."

                              And hospitality do not forget; for by this some, being not aware of it, have entertained Angels.

                              -Hebrews 13: 2

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