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taxijohn's avatar - odometer444
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Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

GOD is great, beer is good and people are crazy! Crazy

"I don't look for the numbers, the numbers look for and sometimes find me..."

    New York's avatar - 103h4yr
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    Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

    Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

    After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

    After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

    I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

    All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

    This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

    What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

    100% Agreed! I always have similar situations. This chaos needs to stop. NYL needs to properly train these people.

    But yeah, now I strategically choose where I play. For example, right after the evening draw is finished, I wait until 9 PM and go to a store where the clerk isn't busy. I take my time and he does too. There are no customers and no disruptive phone calls. I slowly say my numbers and he enjoys the process, with no sighs or anything.

    Better yet, I can sleep until 11 AM/12 Noon and not worry about rushing to the store to put my midday numbers in.

    As for evening, I'm in the city most of the time. I look for a store where it gets very little consumer traffic. I make sure the clerk looks ready though to handle the amount of numbers I'll dictate to him. I say my numbers, he punches them in mistake free, and I'm happy.

    In summary, it should not be like this! What kind of ridiculousness is that, where I have to strategically set out to play numbers? I should be able to walk in anytime and the clerk get the job done, even under pressure from cigarette buyers/milk buyers.

    So, yes, NYL really needs to create an options where we have the choice to play online. Of course, NY specific. The can also give us a NYL ATM card like Georgie has. As far as 5 ..... I don't trust that site, so I don't play there.

      taxijohn's avatar - odometer444
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      Posted: January 16, 2014, 8:31 pm - IP Logged

      Have you had a neg experience there? I never had a problem, just have not replenished my account...

      GOD is great, beer is good and people are crazy! Crazy

      "I don't look for the numbers, the numbers look for and sometimes find me..."

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        Always fill out a playslip, even for quick picks. That way if you want the next two draws, for example, you'll get the next two draws and not two lines of numbers for the next draw.

        The stores that sell lottery tickets are not lottery stores, they just sell them at the customer service counters to accomodate the lottery playing customers. The clerks aren't lottery clerks, they're store clerks that do lotto as a sideline - and at that, learn which clerks are players themselves and lotto goes a lot smoother.

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Always fill out a playslip, even for quick picks. That way if you want the next two draws, for example, you'll get the next two draws and not two lines of numbers for the next draw.

          The stores that sell lottery tickets are not lottery stores, they just sell them at the customer service counters to accomodate the lottery playing customers. The clerks aren't lottery clerks, they're store clerks that do lotto as a sideline - and at that, learn which clerks are players themselves and lotto goes a lot smoother.

          Agree. I always use playslips, QP or my own numbers. It's just so much easier and faster.

          CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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            Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

            Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

            After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

            After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

            I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

            All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

            This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

            What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

            My guess is everyone who ever played multiple combinations had just about the same experience, but wagering online might be a couple of years off. Most states have a thing called hypocrisy and even though they have Bingo halls, casinos, horse and dog racing tracks, and the lottery, online gambling is still forbidden.

            I'm proud of KY because it has to be number one for hypocrisy. Any form of Online gambling is illegal in KY with the exception of horse racing where KY players can wager on almost every U.S. horse track and Australia and in the UK too.

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              At some point, playing online will have to be amended all across the board due to the technical and software advancements happening every second of the day. For those who are really good with Excel, this will be of great benefit because the customization and input of combinations will be much easier than trying to 'shade 'in' tickets. Also, the standing in line while one person is totally confused because the clerk has jacked up their numbers and many other common issues will be resolved. I don't know how much it will affect overall traffic flow and additional merchandise sales within the mom & pop, though, and this may be a problem. I don't know.

               

              It just seems that the convenience of being able to do such things from the privacy of one's home is long overdue. No more needing to rush out to the store only find a long line at every one you stop at...etc. etc. The stores will still be able to sell all the scratch-offs they can and this might even be an incentive to purchase more of 'em in this case. Sometimes, it's easier to spend a little more here (scratch-off's) now that you're not spending anything there (lotto) in the same notion...it's a mental thing I suppose. Also, I move to offer a .25 option on certain games.

               

              L.L.

              Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

              There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

              #lotto-4-a-living

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                I'd say the biggest hold up is retailers complaining about the loss they would take, but it's coming one way or another and honestly i can't wait.  Retailers will still be making good money though from those who will not be comfortable using the computer for gambling transactions. I would imagine alot of the older folks would be dead against purchasing their tickets that way.

                Regardless,  it's coming and the sooner the betterThumbs Up

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                  Always fill out a playslip, even for quick picks. That way if you want the next two draws, for example, you'll get the next two draws and not two lines of numbers for the next draw.

                  The stores that sell lottery tickets are not lottery stores, they just sell them at the customer service counters to accomodate the lottery playing customers. The clerks aren't lottery clerks, they're store clerks that do lotto as a sideline - and at that, learn which clerks are players themselves and lotto goes a lot smoother.

                  I Agree!

                   

                  Always  use  playslips  filled  out  by  yourself

                   

                  It  saves  a  lot  of  trouble  for   you  and   the    clerk

                   

                   

                  There  may  be  a few states  (  Conn.  being one of them I think )  , where they dont have the option of playslips. Though I never could figure why a state would not have play slips  as  an option also.

                   

                  There are a few players around town here , that are notorious for holding up the lines at stores getting the clerks to punch in dozens and dozens of numbers . And then yelling  at the clerks when they get one ticket wrong.  If I was a clerk with people like that , I wouldnt have a job long  , because I would tell them to take a hike.

                   

                  I am a patient man , but even I get frustrated sometimes , with players like that. Creating long lines at the counter. And then after their tickets are bought , then they will pull out a stack of tickets to get the clerk to run through the machine  , to see if they are winners , holding the lines up even longer , when there is a portable ticket checker  8  feet away on another counter , with nobody around , where they could check their  tickets theirselves , if they werent  so lazy to do so.

                   

                  My friend owned  a  couple  stores , where there were a couple of players so bad about all that ,  that he finally had to have a  talk with them , and told them if  there  were people around , that they  would  have to wait ,  till  he  waited  on his other customers first ,  as it was hurting his business to a certain extent with the long lines.

                   

                  I know there are many players not that bad about all that ,  as most people have a little comman  sense , but there are players like that around.

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                    Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

                    Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

                    After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

                    After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

                    I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

                    All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

                    This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

                    What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

                    First of all, keep blaming the smokers and Washington!

                    If the president of the USA would forbid tobacco, our problem would be solved. No more, those above, those below, or other. No more stinking breath that makes you puke in a few. Leaving (Todd, I found the puke-smiley! Or not?). Puke

                    Have you ever had French kissing with a woman that smokes? You turn pale in a few seconds! Yuck! Well, it is a bit better than with women smoking pot (= marihuana, joint, ... ). Cuts your breath!

                    Well, my thoughts are that sniffing cokes is not a solution either.

                    So, don't drink your gin, don't smoke, don't take drugs, prepare your lotto at home, and don't stick around in a by printed newspapers poisened Lottery-hole! Thumbs Up

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                      First of all, keep blaming the smokers and Washington!

                      If the president of the USA would forbid tobacco, our problem would be solved. No more, those above, those below, or other. No more stinking breath that makes you puke in a few. Leaving (Todd, I found the puke-smiley! Or not?). Puke

                      Have you ever had French kissing with a woman that smokes? You turn pale in a few seconds! Yuck! Well, it is a bit better than with women smoking pot (= marihuana, joint, ... ). Cuts your breath!

                      Well, my thoughts are that sniffing cokes is not a solution either.

                      So, don't drink your gin, don't smoke, don't take drugs, prepare your lotto at home, and don't stick around in a by printed newspapers poisened Lottery-hole! Thumbs Up

                       "...stinking breath that makes you puke..."

                      "Have you ever had French kissing with a woman that smokes?"

                      Yes, but the whiskey on my breath usually covers it up.

                       

                      "Well, my thoughts are that sniffing cokes is not a solution either."

                      Who's cokes have you been sniffing?

                      And where, McDonald's?

                      I'd get mad if you tried sniffing my family's cokes.

                      Have you tried sniffing pepsi's?

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                        I had a clerk ask me one time if I wanted "random" Quick Picks.

                        I said "Is there some other kind of Quick Picks?"

                        She said no.

                        I said "Okay then, give me the "random" Quick Picks."

                        Sometimes you just have to unplug your brain stem in order to communicate with some of these people.

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                          Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

                          Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

                          After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

                          After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

                          I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

                          All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

                          This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

                          What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

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                            Ever walk into the local store to play a couple of numbers and run into the clueless clerk behind the counter? You start to slowly ramble off your numbers and are met with the look of a deer in headlights. "Wait, wait, wait.... um, pick three, is that numbers?" asks the clerk. Yeah, sure, "numbers", you answer.

                            Then a few numbers into the transaction, compared to watching paint dry, the clerk has to ring up the lady with the gallon of milk. Then the clerk is asked for "that" certain pack of cigarettes. "No, not that one, lower", says the customer. "the red one, to the right, no not that one" once again declared. 

                            After ringing up the lady, the phone rings. "Hallo?" "Hallo?" (louder this time). Then the clerk starts rambling in a foreign language and wanders back to the "machine" and asks you, "anything else?" Looking at your short list of numbers realizing you have 5 more to go and the two others you wrote on your palm earlier in the day and the one on the back of the business card from yesterday, you say, "uh yeah, I got more".

                            After the clerk puts in a few more numbers, he says "wait!" With the phone tucked between his shoulder and cheek, he realizes he ran one number wrong, one digit off. "Do you still want it"? he asks. Then he begins talking (Perhaps saying hold on) to the person on the phone... and finally puts the phone down. thinking you are almost done, a loud sigh comes from the clerk.

                            I'm out of paper. After unwrapping the new paper two attempts of trying to get it in right, you finally get the rest of your numbers inn wondering "maybe this was a sign, maybe I should have walked out?"

                            All too often this happens to me. I sometimes wonder what the *&#@ these establishments are doing with lottery machines being clueless, untrained and making the customer feel like he or she is bothering them......

                            This is one of the many reasons why online, legal lottery sales should be permitted.

                            What's your thoughts? Share your stories...

                            I think its a great idea, because I cant seem to control my impulse to knock over the cheesy poofs.Chair

                            I dont know, I have that recurring feeling that these clerks keep on giving me the evil eye.

                            Even after I apologize put away my boxcutter and pick up all the cheesy poofs off the floor.

                            I guess its time to get back into AA.Sad Cheers

                            Just kidding usually after I yell at them one of two things will happen.

                            A) they are just plain scared of me and I am usually banned from the store.

                            B) they are just plain scared of me and offer to fill in my playslips for me.

                            Whatever it is its always pretty exciting.

                            Perhaps I should stop taking too many snorts of the coke Tennesse RidgRunner MoonShine before I take my bike to the store.

                            Forget it!!!  I blame GTECH!!!Bang Head

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                              Moonshine, what's that?

                              Never heard of it!