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I plan to play 15 MM lines tonight for $14 or less

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Posted: March 14, 2014, 9:22 am - IP Logged

Hi RJOh,

That was a good move to try all 15 MM lines using all 15 bonus numbers. I've often thought of doing it but haven't done it because I always play the exta dollar and do the multiplier so it would cost me 30 dollars if I bought 15 tickets. When you bought the 15 tickets did you use all of the 75 numbers ?

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    Posted: March 14, 2014, 10:25 am - IP Logged

    Hi RJOh,

    That was a good move to try all 15 MM lines using all 15 bonus numbers. I've often thought of doing it but haven't done it because I always play the exta dollar and do the multiplier so it would cost me 30 dollars if I bought 15 tickets. When you bought the 15 tickets did you use all of the 75 numbers ?

    No I didn't since the program I used to pick my combinations only used numbers that had come up before.   It was written that way so I didn't have to change anything when I played different games since it used the numbers in the history file to decide which numbers were in the number pool. 

    I've since changed it so all the numbers including 61 and 68 may appear in the combinations it picks for tonight's drawing if they fall within the parameters of the combinations I'm looking for.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: March 14, 2014, 7:26 pm - IP Logged

      Only one line  for me tonite.

      Holding the 28. 

      The flagformation has degraded, but lets see if it comes back before it sums it previous two skips.

      Going with MB 9.


      Good luck players!!!

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        Posted: March 17, 2014, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

         

        Help me understand how they calculate the odds of matching 0+1. I would have assumed that it is 1 in 15 especially if a person did what you did and bought 15 tickets each with a unique MegaBall number. What gives? What?

        That money's gone fo ever

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          Posted: March 17, 2014, 7:48 pm - IP Logged

           

          Help me understand how they calculate the odds of matching 0+1. I would have assumed that it is 1 in 15 especially if a person did what you did and bought 15 tickets each with a unique MegaBall number. What gives? What?

          It's because the odds of matching only 0+1 are actually a little harder than 1 in 15, since there is the possibility of matching other numbers too.

          If you purchase all 15 Megaballs then of course you're chances of matching at least 0+1 are 100%. But you could also have 1+1, etc.

          If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
          If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

          2017: 0% (0 tickets)
          P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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            Posted: March 18, 2014, 2:56 am - IP Logged

             

            Help me understand how they calculate the odds of matching 0+1. I would have assumed that it is 1 in 15 especially if a person did what you did and bought 15 tickets each with a unique MegaBall number. What gives? What?

             possible combos of 5/75 + 1/15 number=258890850
             MATCH    ODDS         WINNING COMBOS
             5/5+B   1 : 258890850   1
             5/5+0   1 : 18492204    14
             4/5+B   1 : 739688      350
             4/5+0   1 : 52835       4900
             3/5+B   1 : 10720       24150
             3/5+0   1 : 766         338100
             2/5+B   1 : 473         547400
             1/5+B   1 : 56          4584475
             0/5+B   1 : 21          12103014

            Total possible combinations/possible combinatios of 0+1 = 258890850/12103014 = 21.39060981
            Total possible combinations/all possible winning combinations =258890850/17602404=14.69934769

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: March 18, 2014, 4:30 am - IP Logged

               possible combos of 5/75 + 1/15 number=258890850
               MATCH    ODDS         WINNING COMBOS
               5/5+B   1 : 258890850   1
               5/5+0   1 : 18492204    14
               4/5+B   1 : 739688      350
               4/5+0   1 : 52835       4900
               3/5+B   1 : 10720       24150
               3/5+0   1 : 766         338100
               2/5+B   1 : 473         547400
               1/5+B   1 : 56          4584475
               0/5+B   1 : 21          12103014

              Total possible combinations/possible combinatios of 0+1 = 258890850/12103014 = 21.39060981
              Total possible combinations/all possible winning combinations =258890850/17602404=14.69934769

              NPB NOPB YESPB NOPB YES
              51410,000 0000,000 000
              449003500,000 0190,000 001
              3338100241500,001 3060,000 093
              276636005474000,029 6020,002 114
              16418265045844750,247 9140,017 708
              0169442196121030140,654 4930,046 749
              NO PAYOUT: 0,932 008 
              NO PAYOUT:
              1:1,072 952
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                Posted: March 18, 2014, 4:34 pm - IP Logged
                NPB NOPB YESPB NOPB YES
                51410,000 0000,000 000
                449003500,000 0190,000 001
                3338100241500,001 3060,000 093
                276636005474000,029 6020,002 114
                16418265045844750,247 9140,017 708
                0169442196121030140,654 4930,046 749
                NO PAYOUT: 0,932 008 
                NO PAYOUT:
                1:1,072 952

                What is your point? What?

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: March 18, 2014, 6:55 pm - IP Logged

                   

                  Help me understand how they calculate the odds of matching 0+1. I would have assumed that it is 1 in 15 especially if a person did what you did and bought 15 tickets each with a unique MegaBall number. What gives? What?

                  As it shows in your chart and my ealier chart with calculations, with only one line the odds of matching 0+1 are 1:21 but with 15 lines the odds are improved to 1:1.

                   

                   possible combos of 5/75 + 1/15 numbers = 258890850
                   MATCH    ODDS         WINNING COMBOS ODDS 15 LINES
                    5/5+B   1 : 258890850   1              1 : 17259390
                    5/5+0   1 : 18492204    14             1 : 1232814
                    4/5+B   1 : 739688      350            1 : 49313
                    4/5+0   1 : 52835       4900           1 : 3522
                    3/5+B   1 : 10720       24150          1 : 715
                    3/5+0   1 : 766         338100         1 : 51
                    2/5+B   1 : 473         547400         1 : 32
                    1/5+B   1 : 56          4584475        1 : 4
                    0/5+B   1 : 21          12103014       1 : 1
                   ______________________________________________________
                   overall odds 1 : 14.7       

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: March 18, 2014, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

                    What is your point? What?

                    I think the point is to match 5 out of 75 balls,

                    and 1 out of 15 balls.Jester

                    I for one hope it gets hit soon, because I dont like feeling obligated to play, just because the pot is ginormous.

                    I broke down and played three lines.  I ran some lines that I had played on Dec 20.

                    Megaballs 1 and 6.

                    Congrats in advance on your 1 dollar win RJ!Dance

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                      Posted: March 18, 2014, 9:14 pm - IP Logged

                      I think the point is to match 5 out of 75 balls,

                      and 1 out of 15 balls.Jester

                      I for one hope it gets hit soon, because I dont like feeling obligated to play, just because the pot is ginormous.

                      I broke down and played three lines.  I ran some lines that I had played on Dec 20.

                      Megaballs 1 and 6.

                      Congrats in advance on your 1 dollar win RJ!Dance

                      Thanks, but I tried it twice and now I'm thinking about waiting until Friday after the big roll tonight unless I change my mind before 10:30PM.

                      I guess I missed SergeM's point with the two big "no payout" sign.  Thought maybe he was trying to show the numbers lines that would lose which I thought would be larger.

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                        Posted: March 18, 2014, 9:23 pm - IP Logged

                        Thanks, but I tried it twice and now I'm thinking about waiting until Friday after the big roll tonight unless I change my mind before 10:30PM.

                        I guess I missed SergeM's point with the two big "no payout" sign.  Thought maybe he was trying to show the numbers lines that would lose which I thought would be larger.

                        I doubt its going to roll, because I heard on FB that Steve Player has 10,000 lines in play.Jester Laugh

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                          I doubt its going to roll, because I heard on FB that Steve Player has 10,000 lines in play.Jester Laugh

                          Steve Player probably have that many lines in play every week on some lottery somewhere and he's still waiting to win a jackpot same as me. Disapprove

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                            Posted: March 18, 2014, 11:06 pm - IP Logged

                            I wonder if Steve and Mr Lustig ever get together to discuss strategy?

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                              Posted: March 19, 2014, 1:56 am - IP Logged

                              I doubt its going to roll, because I heard on FB that Steve Player has 10,000 lines in play.Jester Laugh

                              You were right, it didn't roll but I doubt if Steve Player was either of the winners since neither were from NH as none of the million dollar winners were either.

                              If Steve did buy 10,000 lines, he couldn't realistically expect to win more than $1,100 unless his strategy involved more than just buying a lot of tickets or he got lucky.  Even if he spent an extra $10,000 for the megaplier it would only be $3,300.

                               possible combos of 5/75 + 1/15 numbers = 258890850
                               MATCH   ODDS/1 LINE     WINNING COMB.  ODDS/10000 LINES  MATCHES   PRIZE
                               5/5+B   1 : 258890850   1              1 : 25889            0.00   $400000000
                               5/5+0   1 : 18492204    14             1 : 1849             0.00   $1000000
                               4/5+B   1 : 739688      350            1 : 74               0.01   $5000
                               4/5+0   1 : 52835       4900           1 : 5                0.19   $500
                               3/5+B   1 : 10720       24150          1 : 1                0.93   $50 
                               3/5+0   1 : 766         338100         13 : 1              13.06   $5
                               2/5+B   1 : 473         547400         21 : 1              21.14   $5
                               1/5+B   1 : 56          4584475        177 : 1            177.08   $2
                               0/5+B   1 : 21          12103014       467 : 1            467.49   $1
                               ______________________________________________________________________________
                               overall odds 1 : 14.7      679.92 wins     PRIZES  $445,106,964 $289,106,970
                               17602404 possible wins = 6.79%  C.O. 61%   PAYOUTS      $1,089.15  $0.109/line 
                               RED PRIZE AMOUNTS INCLUDE JACKPOT 61% CASH OPTION

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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