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Posted: September 5, 2014, 5:21 pm - IP Logged

Ok, have a little time before work.

Basically, card counting in blackjack works like this.

Sets of cards are assigned -1, 0 and +1.

The table below shows these for each face value.

ValueCountCard
-1510 J Q K A
037 8 9
+152 3 4 5 6

As cards are dealt, a running total is made for each of the cards.

If everything is randomized, the total tends to be 0 or near 0 due to cards having an equal chance of being drawn on both the +side and -side.

However, there are times when this balance dose not stay near 0.

This is what gives card counting an advantage.

An example of a running total:

CardValueTotal
K-1-1
210
A-1-1
210
K-1-1
610
A-1-1
310
700
311
J-10
800
611
612
802
613
414
315
705
416
J-15
516
K-15
805
705
K-14
K-13
K-12
413
903

We can see the balance of the deck has shifted to the +side.

In blackjack you'd want to bet more because the deck is favoring the player and the dealer has a higher chance of a bust (going over 21).

This kind of counting technique can be used in Pick 3 and Pick 4; other lotteries as well, but we'll stick to this for now.

Interesting, I heard that you can win at blackjack but I never could figure out how. I tried the known rules and it didn't work for me in simulation with my own decks of cards. Here the dealing is done with a shuffle machine. Cards are spread on a wheel inside of the machine. You might do better with intuition, but I really have no idea on this.

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    Posted: September 6, 2014, 1:01 pm - IP Logged

    Interesting, I heard that you can win at blackjack but I never could figure out how. I tried the known rules and it didn't work for me in simulation with my own decks of cards. Here the dealing is done with a shuffle machine. Cards are spread on a wheel inside of the machine. You might do better with intuition, but I really have no idea on this.

    The rules are one half of it.

    The counting is the other.

    The rules control your playing while the counting controls your betting.

    For those of you not familiar with the rules of playing Blackjack, below is a table we know of.

    click the image to get a bigger picture.

     

    Also, you can download an Excel sheet with the above table at:

    http://www.jadexcode.com/files/excel/blackjackhitstanddoublesplitrules.xlsx

    or

    ftp://www.jadexcode.com/excel/blackjackhitstanddoublesplitrules.xlsx

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      Posted: September 6, 2014, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

      Fantastic post. I will re read everything and utilize this in a couple of days when I have 4 days off work.

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        Posted: September 6, 2014, 6:02 pm - IP Logged

        Installed The Wave Matrix addin on Excel 2010

        What settings are you using to calculate your waves?

        Wave Matrix

        We usually start off with the default settings to see what kind of wave pattern comes up.

        Regression is Linear.

        Waves 8

        BMA Iterations 8

        Amplitude and Frequency selected

        Precision of BMA Degree 0.001

        Wave to BMA RMS Ratio 0.50

        Amplitude to Frequency Ratio 0.50

        Quantum selected

        Depth 25

        Level 25

        Click - Generate Wave Matrix

         

        A progress bar should appear, then when done, a new sheet will open with the Wave Matrix.

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          Posted: September 6, 2014, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

          Can you apply any of  this to roulette?

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            Can you apply any of  this to roulette?

            It's possible.

            We've have a few variations, some ways of counting, nothing fully tested though.

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              Posted: September 8, 2014, 2:25 pm - IP Logged

              I'm using your suggested settings but coming up with different projections.

              https://app.box.com/s/ifymwp05tbu7ufl5x6ht

              Not sure why your chart is different than mine.

              Is it possible that my version of Excel is calculating the projections differently?

              Thanks.

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                Posted: September 8, 2014, 2:44 pm - IP Logged

                There can be different functions and different arguments. Finally you need to give sense to the returned output. That's the part where everybody fails.

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                  Posted: September 8, 2014, 2:47 pm - IP Logged

                  For roulette I would add skips for passe, pair and rouge. You are in the heart of mathematics there. The casino has the advantage.