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# Thoth LMH Boxed Digit Revival by Tialuvslotto: The Simplified Equation and P4 Expansion

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Ok, have a little time before work.

Basically, card counting in blackjack works like this.

Sets of cards are assigned -1, 0 and +1.

The table below shows these for each face value.

 Value Count Card -1 5 10 J Q K A 0 3 7 8 9 +1 5 2 3 4 5 6

As cards are dealt, a running total is made for each of the cards.

If everything is randomized, the total tends to be 0 or near 0 due to cards having an equal chance of being drawn on both the +side and -side.

However, there are times when this balance dose not stay near 0.

This is what gives card counting an advantage.

An example of a running total:

 Card Value Total K -1 -1 2 1 0 A -1 -1 2 1 0 K -1 -1 6 1 0 A -1 -1 3 1 0 7 0 0 3 1 1 J -1 0 8 0 0 6 1 1 6 1 2 8 0 2 6 1 3 4 1 4 3 1 5 7 0 5 4 1 6 J -1 5 5 1 6 K -1 5 8 0 5 7 0 5 K -1 4 K -1 3 K -1 2 4 1 3 9 0 3

We can see the balance of the deck has shifted to the +side.

In blackjack you'd want to bet more because the deck is favoring the player and the dealer has a higher chance of a bust (going over 21).

This kind of counting technique can be used in Pick 3 and Pick 4; other lotteries as well, but we'll stick to this for now.

Interesting, I heard that you can win at blackjack but I never could figure out how. I tried the known rules and it didn't work for me in simulation with my own decks of cards. Here the dealing is done with a shuffle machine. Cards are spread on a wheel inside of the machine. You might do better with intuition, but I really have no idea on this.

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Interesting, I heard that you can win at blackjack but I never could figure out how. I tried the known rules and it didn't work for me in simulation with my own decks of cards. Here the dealing is done with a shuffle machine. Cards are spread on a wheel inside of the machine. You might do better with intuition, but I really have no idea on this.

The rules are one half of it.

The counting is the other.

For those of you not familiar with the rules of playing Blackjack, below is a table we know of.

click the image to get a bigger picture.

Also, you can download an Excel sheet with the above table at:

or

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Fantastic post. I will re read everything and utilize this in a couple of days when I have 4 days off work.

The Quantum Master
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Installed The Wave Matrix addin on Excel 2010

What settings are you using to calculate your waves?

We usually start off with the default settings to see what kind of wave pattern comes up.

Regression is Linear.

Waves 8

BMA Iterations 8

Amplitude and Frequency selected

Precision of BMA Degree 0.001

Wave to BMA RMS Ratio 0.50

Amplitude to Frequency Ratio 0.50

Quantum selected

Depth 25

Level 25

Click - Generate Wave Matrix

A progress bar should appear, then when done, a new sheet will open with the Wave Matrix.

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Can you apply any of  this to roulette?

The Quantum Master
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Can you apply any of  this to roulette?

It's possible.

We've have a few variations, some ways of counting, nothing fully tested though.

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Jehocifer

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I'm using your suggested settings but coming up with different projections.

https://app.box.com/s/ifymwp05tbu7ufl5x6ht

Not sure why your chart is different than mine.

Is it possible that my version of Excel is calculating the projections differently?

Thanks.

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There can be different functions and different arguments. Finally you need to give sense to the returned output. That's the part where everybody fails.

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For roulette I would add skips for passe, pair and rouge. You are in the heart of mathematics there. The casino has the advantage.

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