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Strategy> 10P3 with one repeat for 2 key digits, strictly straight for 5 draws

 

Assumption> At LEAST a hit, recover cost or lost , based on 50% degree of certainty

 

Potential Prize> $5000 + within time frame

 

 

GA>key 4,8

 

4123-4124-4125-4126-4127-4128-4192-4120-4121-4122

4134-4135-4136-4137-4138-4139-4130-4131-4132-4133

4145-4146-4147-4148-4149-4140-4141-4142-4143-4144

4156-4157-4158-4159-4150-4151-4152-4153-4154-4155

4167-4168-4169-4160-4161-4162-4163-4164-4165-4166

4178-4179-4170-4171-4172-4173-4174-4175-4176-4177

4189-4180-4181-4182-4183-4184-4185-4186-4187-4188

4190-4191-4192-4193-4194-4195-4196-4197-4198-4199

 

 

4345-4346-4347-4348-4349-4340-4341-4342-4343-4344

4356-4357-4358-4359-4350-4351-4352-4353-4354-4355

4367-4368-4369-4360-4361-4362-4363-4364-4365-4366

4378-4379-4370-4371-4372-4373-4374-4375-4376-4377

4389-4380-4381-4382-4383-4384-4385-4386-4387-4388

4390-4391-4392-4393-4394-4395-4396-4397-4398-4399

 

 

4678-4679-4670-4671-4672-4673-4674-4675-4676-4677

4689-4680-4681-4682-4683-4684-4685-4686-4687-4688

4690-4691-4692-4693-4694-4695-4696-4697-4698-4699

 

4901-4902-4903-4904-4905-4906-4907-4908-4909-4900


8123-8124-8125-8126-8127-8128-8192-8120-8121-8122

8134-8135-8136-8137-8138-8139-8130-8131-8132-8133

8145-8146-8147-8148-8149-8140-8141-8142-8143-8144

8156-8157-8158-8159-8150-8151-8152-8153-8154-8155

8167-8168-8169-8160-8161-8162-8163-8164-8165-8166

8178-8179-8170-8171-8172-8173-8174-8175-8176-8177

8189-8180-8181-8182-8183-8184-8185-8186-8187-8188

8190-8191-8192-8193-8194-8195-8196-8197-8198-8199

 

8345-8346-8347-8348-8349-8340-8341-8342-8343-8344

8356-8357-8358-8359-8350-8351-8352-8353-8354-8355

8367-8368-8369-8360-8361-8362-8363-8364-8365-8366

8378-8379-8370-8371-8372-8373-8374-8375-8376-8377

8389-8380-8381-8382-8383-8384-8385-8386-8387-8388

8390-8391-8392-8393-8394-8395-8396-8397-8398-8399

 

 

8678-8679-8670-8671-8672-8673-8674-8675-8676-8677

8689-8680-8681-8682-8683-8684-8685-8686-8687-8688

8690-8691-8692-8693-8694-8695-8696-8697-8698-8699

8901-8902-8903-8904-8905-8906-8907-8908-8909-8900






 






 

 

 

GA> str 8195

Cost 360x 4 draws

Prize> $5000

ROI%????

Assumption> multiple hits or recover cost

Cost is part of investment !

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    GA> str 8195

    Cost 360x 4 draws

    Prize> $5000

    ROI%????

    Assumption> multiple hits or recover cost

    Cost is part of investment !

    Thanks, Adobea78.

    I have done more workouts on this, and I think I've got it.

    Now should I use the sum sets to determine my key digits, or is that what we are trying to determine (the best key digits)?

    I have tried other systems, as stated before, to determine possible key digits. For instance, in the example you gave for GA, your key digits were 4 and 8.

    From my other workouts, I was also looking for 8 in the first position, and notice in GA's draw history, the 8 digit has been the longest out and due in the first position.

    If you have another thread with this information, I have not been able to find it.  I would rather read and figure it out than you tell me.

    Congratulations with the straight hit in GA with 8-1-9-5.

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      Thanks, Adobea78.

      I have done more workouts on this, and I think I've got it.

      Now should I use the sum sets to determine my key digits, or is that what we are trying to determine (the best key digits)?

      I have tried other systems, as stated before, to determine possible key digits. For instance, in the example you gave for GA, your key digits were 4 and 8.

      From my other workouts, I was also looking for 8 in the first position, and notice in GA's draw history, the 8 digit has been the longest out and due in the first position.

      If you have another thread with this information, I have not been able to find it.  I would rather read and figure it out than you tell me.

      Congratulations with the straight hit in GA with 8-1-9-5.

      P57

      Keep things simple, the ideal is simple> predict first digit position and use either COMBINATION or PERMUTATION for  your choice of bet(how much you want to win is subjective ).

      The sum sets is one method based on recurrence, you do not have to understand the concept to use the chart, everything has been charted for you. Remember that the DIGITS of  key sets are POSITIONALLY structured, hence your first positions can be inferred. Good Luck and Happy Holiday.

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        This thread is based on a simple ideal> Predict just one digit, preferable position 1 for subsequent draw/s  for probably straight hit. The picks are not for the risk averse, but for those who consider waging as residual income, so am not going to indulge in discussion about cost and what not(Every member here is of legal age).

        I am open to discuss concepts behind the method of pick selection, give and gather suggestions to enhance this method, I will post picks for validation sake, not on request, is best to learn the ideal and do your own workout.

        Method> Predict next position digit +  Np3, N is your data size for certain cycles, p is your Permutation for triads, basically you're grouping all your triads out of N.  The size of N will determine the number of picks to wage.

        Hint> 10P4= 5040    , 10P3=720,  predict a number on 10P3 for a straight hit (that's ideal, be mindful that N is not static!)

        Consider this workout for FL (draw 3497 of  nov. 20th)

        P4

        consider draw 3497> keys 81,74> 87+NP2 , 17+NP2> Size of N=7, N[3,4,9,7,1,5,6]

        42 Picks>{3,4} {3,9} {3,7} {3,1} {3,5} {3,6} {4,3} {4,9} {4,7} {4,1} {4,5} {4,6} {9,3} {9,4} {9,7} {9,1} {9,5} {9,6} {7,3} {7,4} {7,9} {7,1} {7,5} {7,6} {1,3} {1,4} {1,9} {1,7} {1,5} {1,6} {5,3} {5,4} {5,9} {5,7} {5,1} {5,6} {6,3} {6,4} {6,9} {6,7} {6,1} {6,5

        Cost> 84 picks  for cost for $84 For straight hit 1775(midday)

        NB> So many variables in reducing the picks, cost , taken as investment is dependent on ' degree of certainty'.

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          Consider this workout for FL (draw 3497 of  nov. 20th)

          P4

          consider draw 3497> keys 81,74> 87+NP2 , 17+NP2> Size of N=7, N[3,4,9,7,1,5,6]

          42 Picks>{3,4} {3,9} {3,7} {3,1} {3,5} {3,6} {4,3} {4,9} {4,7} {4,1} {4,5} {4,6} {9,3} {9,4} {9,7} {9,1} {9,5} {9,6} {7,3} {7,4} {7,9} {7,1} {7,5} {7,6} {1,3} {1,4} {1,9} {1,7} {1,5} {1,6} {5,3} {5,4} {5,9} {5,7} {5,1} {5,6} {6,3} {6,4} {6,9} {6,7} {6,1} {6,5

          Cost> 84 picks  for cost for $84 For straight hit 1775(midday)

          NB> So many variables in reducing the picks, cost , taken as investment is dependent on ' degree of certainty'.

          WI>12 draws

          8733- 8734 -8739 -8737- 8731 -8743- 8744- 8749- 8747 -8741- 8793 -8794 -8799- 8797- 8791- 8773- 8774- 8779 -8777- 8771- 8713- 8714 -8719- 8717- 8711

          1733- 1734- 1739- 1737 -1731 -1743- 1744- 1749- 1747- 1741- 1793- 1794- 1799- 1797- 1791- 1773 -1774 -1779 -1777- 1771 -1713- 1714- 1719- 1717- 1711

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            WI>12 draws

            8733- 8734 -8739 -8737- 8731 -8743- 8744- 8749- 8747 -8741- 8793 -8794 -8799- 8797- 8791- 8773- 8774- 8779 -8777- 8771- 8713- 8714 -8719- 8717- 8711

            1733- 1734- 1739- 1737 -1731 -1743- 1744- 1749- 1747- 1741- 1793- 1794- 1799- 1797- 1791- 1773 -1774 -1779 -1777- 1771 -1713- 1714- 1719- 1717- 1711

            DC>14 draws

            5877 {5873} {5878} {5879} {5872} {5875} {5837} {5833} {5838} {5839} {5832} {5835} {5887} {5883} {5888} {5889} {5882} {5885} {5897} {5893} {5898} {5899} {5892} {5895} {5827} {5823} {5828} {5829} {5822} {5825} {5857} {5853} {5858} {5859} {5852} {5855}

            {5177} {5173} {5178} {5179} {5172} {5175} {5137} {5133} {5138} {5139} {5132} {5135} {518,7} {5183} {5188} {5189} {5182} {5185} {5197} {5193} {5198} {5199} {5192} {5195} {512,7} {512,3} {5128} {5129} {5122} {5125} {5157} {5153} {5158} {5159} {5152} {5155}

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              Good ev adobea, I would love to be able to figure out how to come up with keys. Will you please break down how you get the keys 81,74 for the above FL (draw 3497 of Nov 20th). I,m sorry for being so slow but once I get it, I know I can do it on my own. Please make it as simple as possible. Step by step would be great. Thanks in advance.

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                DC>14 draws

                5877 {5873} {5878} {5879} {5872} {5875} {5837} {5833} {5838} {5839} {5832} {5835} {5887} {5883} {5888} {5889} {5882} {5885} {5897} {5893} {5898} {5899} {5892} {5895} {5827} {5823} {5828} {5829} {5822} {5825} {5857} {5853} {5858} {5859} {5852} {5855}

                {5177} {5173} {5178} {5179} {5172} {5175} {5137} {5133} {5138} {5139} {5132} {5135} {518,7} {5183} {5188} {5189} {5182} {5185} {5197} {5193} {5198} {5199} {5192} {5195} {512,7} {512,3} {5128} {5129} {5122} {5125} {5157} {5153} {5158} {5159} {5152} {5155}

                VA>14 draws

                 

                {5877} {5871} {5870} {5875} {5873} {5874} {5817} {5811} {5810} {5815} {5813} {5814} {5807} {5801} {5800} {5805} {5803} {580,4} {5857} {5851} {5850} {5855} {5853} {5854} {5837} {5831} {5830} {5835} {5833} {583,4} {584,7} {5841} {5840} {5845} {5843} {5844}

                 

                {5177} {5171} {5170} {5175} {5173} {5174} {5117} {5111} {5110} {5115} {5113} {5114} {5107} {5101} {5100} {5105} {5103} {5104} {5157} {5151} {515,0} {5155} {5153} {5154} {5137} {5131} {5130} {5135} {5133} {513,4} {5147} {5141} {514,0} {5145} {5143} {5144}

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                  Good ev adobea, I would love to be able to figure out how to come up with keys. Will you please break down how you get the keys 81,74 for the above FL (draw 3497 of Nov 20th). I,m sorry for being so slow but once I get it, I know I can do it on my own. Please make it as simple as possible. Step by step would be great. Thanks in advance.

                  Go four steps up, you'll see my response to LP member PHOENIX , about using the sum parameters to locate key digits, use this  chart, you need to read and deduce information by yourself, I can't rehash every old stuff on request.

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                    Hi adobea,

                    can you please give me some straight numbers for FL please.

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                      WI>12 draws

                      8733- 8734 -8739 -8737- 8731 -8743- 8744- 8749- 8747 -8741- 8793 -8794 -8799- 8797- 8791- 8773- 8774- 8779 -8777- 8771- 8713- 8714 -8719- 8717- 8711

                      1733- 1734- 1739- 1737 -1731 -1743- 1744- 1749- 1747- 1741- 1793- 1794- 1799- 1797- 1791- 1773 -1774 -1779 -1777- 1771 -1713- 1714- 1719- 1717- 1711

                      WI> box  1437(1734,1743)> do not delete any pick till end of span, box hit is cost management to keep you in play(if on limited budget) till straight hit

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                        Consider this workout for FL (draw 3497 of  nov. 20th)

                        P4

                        consider draw 3497> keys 81,74> 87+NP2 , 17+NP2> Size of N=7, N[3,4,9,7,1,5,6]

                        42 Picks>{3,4} {3,9} {3,7} {3,1} {3,5} {3,6} {4,3} {4,9} {4,7} {4,1} {4,5} {4,6} {9,3} {9,4} {9,7} {9,1} {9,5} {9,6} {7,3} {7,4} {7,9} {7,1} {7,5} {7,6} {1,3} {1,4} {1,9} {1,7} {1,5} {1,6} {5,3} {5,4} {5,9} {5,7} {5,1} {5,6} {6,3} {6,4} {6,9} {6,7} {6,1} {6,5

                        Cost> 84 picks  for cost for $84 For straight hit 1775(midday)

                        NB> So many variables in reducing the picks, cost , taken as investment is dependent on ' degree of certainty'.

                        Adobea78,

                        I have been studying this a lot, and would like to use this example in another way with the Drive Digits from the sums.

                        FL (draw 3497 of Nov. 20th)

                        Draw 3497> keys 90,76> 90+NP2, 97+NP2> N = 3,4,9,7,5,1,6

                        42 Picks>{3,4} {3,9} {3,7} {3,1} {3,5} {3,6} {4,3} {4,9} {4,7} {4,1} {4,5} {4,6} {9,3} {9,4} {9,7} {9,1} {9,5} {9,6} {7,3} {7,4} {7,9} {7,1} {7,5} {7,6} {1,3} {1,4} {1,9} {1,7} {1,5} {1,6} {5,3} {5,4} {5,9} {5,7} {5,1} {5,6} {6,3} {6,4} {6,9} {6,7} {6,1} {6,5}

                        Straight hit 9717 on 11/23; 6 draws/84 picks.

                        Based on this outcome, I am assuming that this method also works, as I understand it better than using the Prediction points.

                        Now, I could have also had keys 76,90> 76+NP2, 79+NP2, correct?

                        However the choice to use 90,97 over 76,79 should be dependent on the draw priority? In this case the draw 3497 places priority of 9 over 7, correct?

                        I am asking a lot of questions because I do realize that getting a straight hit relies heavily on making sure the digits are in the correct positions.

                        Thank you so much for all of your hard work!

                        P57

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                          Adobea78,

                          I have been studying this a lot, and would like to use this example in another way with the Drive Digits from the sums.

                          FL (draw 3497 of Nov. 20th)

                          Draw 3497> keys 90,76> 90+NP2, 97+NP2> N = 3,4,9,7,5,1,6

                          42 Picks>{3,4} {3,9} {3,7} {3,1} {3,5} {3,6} {4,3} {4,9} {4,7} {4,1} {4,5} {4,6} {9,3} {9,4} {9,7} {9,1} {9,5} {9,6} {7,3} {7,4} {7,9} {7,1} {7,5} {7,6} {1,3} {1,4} {1,9} {1,7} {1,5} {1,6} {5,3} {5,4} {5,9} {5,7} {5,1} {5,6} {6,3} {6,4} {6,9} {6,7} {6,1} {6,5}

                          Straight hit 9717 on 11/23; 6 draws/84 picks.

                          Based on this outcome, I am assuming that this method also works, as I understand it better than using the Prediction points.

                          Now, I could have also had keys 76,90> 76+NP2, 79+NP2, correct?

                          However the choice to use 90,97 over 76,79 should be dependent on the draw priority? In this case the draw 3497 places priority of 9 over 7, correct?

                          I am asking a lot of questions because I do realize that getting a straight hit relies heavily on making sure the digits are in the correct positions.

                          Thank you so much for all of your hard work!

                          P57

                          I used the word " POSITIONALLY STRUCTURED" for the sum sets, this infers priority of digits in each set. I am glad you did use the word 'Drive' which is just synonyms for 'key, lead, pilot' digits. Your workout for the draw 3497 is correct, but I sense impatience in trying to get a straight in next draw. The digits 9,7 has the same priority as first positions(they are from different sets), likewise 0,6 in second positions   >>>>>>>>>

                          90

                          76

                          My picks will be A/90+NP2, 96+NP2,       B/-- 70+NP2, 76 +NP2> A and B has the same chance, so just pick one , what you did with the hit 9717 is fitting your workout after the fact, is bias testing, do not fall for that, the above workout could come straight in couple of draws, is about patience and managing cost.

                          Remember> Pos 1 +Pos 2>pair  not Pos 1+pos1,  9+0,9+6(pair)  not 9+7,,,,,the digit 9= digit 7 (imagine a point with id 9 taking id 7)> the digit id changes but the position remains the same.

                          NB> With time and observations, your intuition will be enhanced,  try avoid any adjustment after the fact.

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                            This thread is based on a simple ideal> Predict just one digit, preferable position 1 for subsequent draw/s  for probably straight hit. The picks are not for the risk averse, but for those who consider waging as residual income, so am not going to indulge in discussion about cost and what not(Every member here is of legal age).

                            I am open to discuss concepts behind the method of pick selection, give and gather suggestions to enhance this method, I will post picks for validation sake, not on request, is best to learn the ideal and do your own workout.

                            Method> Predict next position digit +  Np3, N is your data size for certain cycles, p is your Permutation for triads, basically you're grouping all your triads out of N.  The size of N will determine the number of picks to wage.

                            Hint> 10P4= 5040    , 10P3=720,  predict a number on 10P3 for a straight hit (that's ideal, be mindful that N is not static!)

                            OHIO> 16 draws for split bets

                            {6549} {6540} {6547} {6541} {6545} {6594} {6590} {6597} {6591} {6595} {6504} {6509} {6507} {6501} {6505} {6574} {6579} {6570} {6571} {6575} {6514} {6519} {6510} {6517} {6515} {655,4} {6559} {6550} {6557} {6551}

                            {9549} {9540} {9547} {9541} {9545} {9594} {9590} {9597} {9591} {9595} {9504} {9509} {9507} {9501} {9505} {9574} {9579} {957,0} {9571} {9575} {9514} {9519} {9510} {9517} {9515} {9554} {9559} {9550} {9557} {9551}

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                              Can you help me with SC?  Thanks!