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# Pick 4 for ROI

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I have been working with the concept of positional pairs, particularly FRONT pairs, and used some of your previous teachings as a road map.

In my workout, I used your concept of recurrent draw set for consecutive FRONT pairs:

0 - 3     8679

4 - 6     1327

7 - 9     5124

I backtested this approach for GA, and loved the results.  The only thing that I noticed was that the draws hit boxed most of the time, or a pair from the draw set would show instead of the triad.  So, I combined my study of Front Sums with the recurrent draw set Pairs, which provided a greater degree of certainty for the set to produce a straight combination.  In addition, I was also left with the 10P2 portion, in which I opted to use a 5/6 digit draw string.

TEST: GA 12/30 E 1039

RECURRENT DRAW SET FOCUS: 8679 ( from 1-0)

Longest FRONT Sum Out: 0 - 6 - 2

Using the Recurrent Draw digits and Front Sums, I would focus on the following FRONT pairs:

82 84 64 60 66 73 79 75 91 97

Now I would use my 6 digit string (103926) to produce pairs to combine with my FRONT pairs. I was left with 156 numbers to play.  I can also reduced my picks further, if my front sum appears without one of the pairs, but may result in me missing a winning combination.

As of today, I have opted to place my picks in priority, Tier 1 and Tier 2.  Since the picks are based off of the 12/30 draw, and there has been a draw with a sum of 2 that played 1/1M, my major focus is now on Front sums 0 & 6.

Here are my STRAIGHT picks for GA (7days) based on the recurrent sets and FRONT pairs:

TIER 1 (120 picks)

7910,7930,7909,7902,7906,7916,7936,7996,7926,
7901,7903,7990,7920,7960,7961,7963,7969,7962,
9710,9730,9709,9702,9706,9716,9736,9796,9726,
9701,9703,9790,9720,9760,9761,9763,9769,9762,
8219,8216,8209,8206,8239,8236,8292,8296,8226,
8291,8261,8290,8260,8293,8263,8229,8269,8262,
6419,6409,6439,6492,6496,6491,6490,6493,6429,6469,
6019,6009,6039,6092,6096,6091,6090,6093,6029,6069,
7319,7316,7309,7306,7339,7336,7392,7396,7326,
7391,7361,7390,7360,7393,7363,7329,7369,7362,
9119,9116,9109,9106,9139,9136,9192,9196,9126,
9191,9161,9190,9160,9193,9163,9129,9169,9162,

TIER 2 (46 picks)

8419,8416,8409,8406,8439,8436,8492,8496,8426,
8491,8461,8490,8460,8493,8463,8429,8469,8462,
6619,6609,6639,6692,6696,6691,6690,6693,6629,6669,
7519,7516,7509,7506,7539,7536,7592,7596,7526,
7591,7561,7590,7560,7593,7563,7529,7569,7562,

This is my forward test because it worked well in the past and I really enjoyed this workout.

I don't know if this all sounds complicated, but it really wasn't (takes less than 1 hr).

For me, I think finding the FRONT pair is the crucial step, that is why I have spent a lot of time focusing on it.  I have given Pick 4 a lot of energy in reducing picks because in the past I have wagered on 1000+ number sets in 1 draw (with some success), but I knew there was a way to reduce the picks successfully.

Either way, I have decided to share my test, and see what happens.

Adobea78, thank you for all of your lessons here on LP! You have so much information here. People need to read more; do more research.  There are gems of information here.  I keep looking, and each time, I find more and more.

P57

I admire your journey and the way you interpret NP3 or Front Pair+NP2 . The ultimate decision is not a computer software, the software helps to organize and filter your selection, the software can't predict anything. P4 has 5040 straight picks, predict position one digit and you'll have multiple straight or a straight within a span of 5 draws. LP is a global community with people outside USA waging large picks for 1/4 of cost for huge returns. A key digit  comes with 504 picks at cost of \$2520 per 5 draw span for possible prize of \$2250, but you have the assumption of multiple hits within that span.

The prediction method ' Front pair +NP2'   has less picks (100 max)  for mostly multiple box hits, this can be frustrating. I hope you find a way predict the front pairs, I suggest you consider Pick 2 lottery as base, P2 has only 100 straight combos(you don't need historical data to infer those pairs).

Good Luck and happy 2015

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I admire your journey and the way you interpret NP3 or Front Pair+NP2 . The ultimate decision is not a computer software, the software helps to organize and filter your selection, the software can't predict anything. P4 has 5040 straight picks, predict position one digit and you'll have multiple straight or a straight within a span of 5 draws. LP is a global community with people outside USA waging large picks for 1/4 of cost for huge returns. A key digit  comes with 504 picks at cost of \$2520 per 5 draw span for possible prize of \$2250, but you have the assumption of multiple hits within that span.

The prediction method ' Front pair +NP2'   has less picks (100 max)  for mostly multiple box hits, this can be frustrating. I hope you find a way predict the front pairs, I suggest you consider Pick 2 lottery as base, P2 has only 100 straight combos(you don't need historical data to infer those pairs).

Good Luck and happy 2015

Lets  test  key+NP3 and Front Pair +NP2 using 1000 and 500 cycles of recurrent concept to locate keys or pairs.

FL

Sun, Jan 4, 2015 Sat, Jan 3, 2015 Fri, Jan 2, 2015 Thu, Jan 1, 2015 Pick 3 Pick 4 Midday Evening Midday Evening 1-5-4 5-4-8-2 6-9-8 8-1-3 3-7-3-2 4-1-8-4 8-7-4 8-6-0 5-3-9-5 2-6-4-9 1-5-1 0-4-1 7-3-9-1 1-7-5-9 5-1-9 6-1-1 2-6-6-5 5-4-6-9 3-6-3 2-9-4 4-5-9-5 3-9-2-1 2-7-3 5-0-8 1-8-3-9 0-3-9-5 9-1-6 9-4-0 1-4-5-9 1-9-5-3 8-3-9 0-5-3 7-1-4-1 1-5-8-3 2-1-1 5-3-4 1-6-9-2 5-4-1-9

draw> 1692   Key>0 ,      pair   06-33> 03-63

0+ 10P3(without digit repeat)>

{0,1,2,3} {0,1,2,4} {0,1,2,5} {0,1,2,6} {0,1,2,7} {0,1,2,8} {0,1,2,9} {0,1,3,2} {0,1,3,4} {0,1,3,5} {0,1,3,6} {0,1,3,7} {0,1,3,8} {0,1,3,9} {0,1,4,2} {0,1,4,3} {0,1,4,5} {0,1,4,6} {0,1,4,7} {0,1,4,8} {0,1,4,9} {0,1,5,2} {0,1,5,3} {0,1,5,4} {0,1,5,6} {0,1,5,7} {0,1,5,8} {0,1,5,9} {0,1,6,2} {0,1,6,3} {0,1,6,4} {0,1,6,5} {0,1,6,7} {0,1,6,8} {0,1,6,9} {0,1,7,2} {0,1,7,3} {0,1,7,4} {0,1,7,5} {0,1,7,6} {0,1,7,8} {0,1,7,9} {0,1,8,2} {0,1,8,3} {0,1,8,4} {0,1,8,5} {0,1,8,6} {0,1,8,7} {0,1,8,9} {0,1,9,2} {0,1,9,3} {0,1,9,4} {0,1,9,5} {0,1,9,6} {0,1,9,7} {0,1,9,8} {0,2,1,3} {0,2,1,4} {0,2,1,5} {0,2,1,6} {0,2,1,7} {0,2,1,8} {0,2,1,9} {0,2,3,1} {0,2,3,4} {0,2,3,5} {0,2,3,6} {0,2,3,7} {0,2,3,8} {0,2,3,9} {0,2,4,1} {0,2,4,3} {0,2,4,5} {0,2,4,6} {0,2,4,7} {0,2,4,8} {0,2,4,9} {0,2,5,1} {0,2,5,3} {0,2,5,4} {0,2,5,6} {0,2,5,7} {0,2,5,8} {0,2,5,9} {0,2,6,1} {0,2,6,3} {0,2,6,4} {0,2,6,5} {0,2,6,7} {0,2,6,8} {0,2,6,9} {0,2,7,1} {0,2,7,3} {0,2,7,4} {0,2,7,5} {0,2,7,6} {0,2,7,8} {0,2,7,9} {0,2,8,1} {0,2,8,3} {0,2,8,4} {0,2,8,5} {0,2,8,6} {0,2,8,7} {0,2,8,9} {0,2,9,1} {0,2,9,3} {0,2,9,4} {0,2,9,5} {0,2,9,6} {0,2,9,7} {0,2,9,8} {0,3,1,2} {0,3,1,4} {0,3,1,5} {0,3,1,6} {0,3,1,7} {0,3,1,8} {0,3,1,9} {0,3,2,1} {0,3,2,4} {0,3,2,5} {0,3,2,6} {0,3,2,7} {0,3,2,8} {0,3,2,9} {0,3,4,1} {0,3,4,2} {0,3,4,5} {0,3,4,6} {0,3,4,7} {0,3,4,8} {0,3,4,9} {0,3,5,1} {0,3,5,2} {0,3,5,4} {0,3,5,6} {0,3,5,7} {0,3,5,8} {0,3,5,9} {0,3,6,1} {0,3,6,2} {0,3,6,4} {0,3,6,5} {0,3,6,7} {0,3,6,8} {0,3,6,9} {0,3,7,1} {0,3,7,2} {0,3,7,4} {0,3,7,5} {0,3,7,6} {0,3,7,8} {0,3,7,9} {0,3,8,1} {0,3,8,2} {0,3,8,4} {0,3,8,5} {0,3,8,6} {0,3,8,7} {0,3,8,9} {0,3,9,1} {0,3,9,2} {0,3,9,4} {0,3,9,5} {0,3,9,6} {0,3,9,7} {0,3,9,8} {0,4,1,2} {0,4,1,3} {0,4,1,5} {0,4,1,6} {0,4,1,7} {0,4,1,8} {0,4,1,9} {0,4,2,1} {0,4,2,3} {0,4,2,5} {0,4,2,6} {0,4,2,7} {0,4,2,8} {0,4,2,9} {0,4,3,1} {0,4,3,2} {0,4,3,5} {0,4,3,6} {0,4,3,7} {0,4,3,8} {0,4,3,9} {0,4,5,1} {0,4,5,2} {0,4,5,3} {0,4,5,6} {0,4,5,7} {0,4,5,8} {0,4,5,9} {0,4,6,1} {0,4,6,2} {0,4,6,3} {0,4,6,5} {0,4,6,7} {0,4,6,8} {0,4,6,9} {0,4,7,1} {0,4,7,2} {0,4,7,3} {0,4,7,5} {0,4,7,6} {0,4,7,8} {0,4,7,9} {0,4,8,1} {0,4,8,2} {0,4,8,3} {0,4,8,5} {0,4,8,6} {0,4,8,7} {0,4,8,9} {0,4,9,1} {0,4,9,2} {0,4,9,3} {0,4,9,5} {0,4,9,6} {0,4,9,7} {0,4,9,8} {0,5,1,2} {0,5,1,3} {0,5,1,4} {0,5,1,6} {0,5,1,7} {0,5,1,8} {0,5,1,9} {0,5,2,1} {0,5,2,3} {0,5,2,4} {0,5,2,6} {0,5,2,7} {0,5,2,8} {0,5,2,9} {0,5,3,1} {0,5,3,2} {0,5,3,4} {0,5,3,6} {0,5,3,7} {0,5,3,8} {0,5,3,9} {0,5,4,1} {0,5,4,2} {0,5,4,3} {0,5,4,6} {0,5,4,7} {0,5,4,8} {0,5,4,9} {0,5,6,1} {0,5,6,2} {0,5,6,3} {0,5,6,4} {0,5,6,7} {0,5,6,8} {0,5,6,9} {0,5,7,1} {0,5,7,2} {0,5,7,3} {0,5,7,4} {0,5,7,6} {0,5,7,8} {0,5,7,9} {0,5,8,1} {0,5,8,2} {0,5,8,3} {0,5,8,4} {0,5,8,6} {0,5,8,7} {0,5,8,9} {0,5,9,1} {0,5,9,2} {0,5,9,3} {0,5,9,4} {0,5,9,6} {0,5,9,7} {0,5,9,8} {0,6,1,2} {0,6,1,3} {0,6,1,4} {0,6,1,5} {0,6,1,7} {0,6,1,8} {0,6,1,9} {0,6,2,1} {0,6,2,3} {0,6,2,4} {0,6,2,5} {0,6,2,7} {0,6,2,8} {0,6,2,9} {0,6,3,1} {0,6,3,2} {0,6,3,4} {0,6,3,5} {0,6,3,7} {0,6,3,8} {0,6,3,9} {0,6,4,1} {0,6,4,2} {0,6,4,3} {0,6,4,5} {0,6,4,7} {0,6,4,8} {0,6,4,9} {0,6,5,1} {0,6,5,2} {0,6,5,3} {0,6,5,4} {0,6,5,7} {0,6,5,8} {0,6,5,9} {0,6,7,1} {0,6,7,2} {0,6,7,3} {0,6,7,4} {0,6,7,5} {0,6,7,8} {0,6,7,9} {0,6,8,1} {0,6,8,2} {0,6,8,3} {0,6,8,4} {0,6,8,5} {0,6,8,7} {0,6,8,9} {0,6,9,1} {0,6,9,2} {0,6,9,3} {0,6,9,4} {0,6,9,5} {0,6,9,7} {0,6,9,8} {0,7,1,2} {0,7,1,3} {0,7,1,4} {0,7,1,5} {0,7,1,6} {0,7,1,8} {0,7,1,9} {0,7,2,1} {0,7,2,3} {0,7,2,4} {0,7,2,5} {0,7,2,6} {0,7,2,8} {0,7,2,9} {0,7,3,1} {0,7,3,2} {0,7,3,4} {0,7,3,5} {0,7,3,6} {0,7,3,8} {0,7,3,9} {0,7,4,1} {0,7,4,2} {0,7,4,3} {0,7,4,5} {0,7,4,6} {0,7,4,8} {0,7,4,9} {0,7,5,1} {0,7,5,2} {0,7,5,3} {0,7,5,4} {0,7,5,6} {0,7,5,8} {0,7,5,9} {0,7,6,1} {0,7,6,2} {0,7,6,3} {0,7,6,4} {0,7,6,5} {0,7,6,8} {0,7,6,9} {0,7,8,1} {0,7,8,2} {0,7,8,3} {0,7,8,4} {0,7,8,5} {0,7,8,6} {0,7,8,9} {0,7,9,1} {0,7,9,2} {0,7,9,3} {0,7,9,4} {0,7,9,5} {0,7,9,6} {0,7,9,8} {0,8,1,2} {0,8,1,3} {0,8,1,4} {0,8,1,5} {0,8,1,6} {0,8,1,7} {0,8,1,9} {0,8,2,1} {0,8,2,3} {0,8,2,4} {0,8,2,5} {0,8,2,6} {0,8,2,7} {0,8,2,9} {0,8,3,1} {0,8,3,2} {0,8,3,4} {0,8,3,5} {0,8,3,6} {0,8,3,7} {0,8,3,9} {0,8,4,1} {0,8,4,2} {0,8,4,3} {0,8,4,5} {0,8,4,6} {0,8,4,7} {0,8,4,9} {0,8,5,1} {0,8,5,2} {0,8,5,3} {0,8,5,4} {0,8,5,6} {0,8,5,7} {0,8,5,9} {0,8,6,1} {0,8,6,2} {0,8,6,3} {0,8,6,4} {0,8,6,5} {0,8,6,7} {0,8,6,9} {0,8,7,1} {0,8,7,2} {0,8,7,3} {0,8,7,4} {0,8,7,5} {0,8,7,6} {0,8,7,9} {0,8,9,1} {0,8,9,2} {0,8,9,3} {0,8,9,4} {0,8,9,5} {0,8,9,6} {0,8,9,7} {0,9,1,2} {0,9,1,3} {0,9,1,4} {0,9,1,5} {0,9,1,6} {0,9,1,7} {0,9,1,8} {0,9,2,1} {0,9,2,3} {0,9,2,4} {0,9,2,5} {0,9,2,6} {0,9,2,7} {0,9,2,8} {0,9,3,1} {0,9,3,2} {0,9,3,4} {0,9,3,5} {0,9,3,6} {0,9,3,7} {0,9,3,8} {0,9,4,1} {0,9,4,2} {0,9,4,3} {0,9,4,5} {0,9,4,6} {0,9,4,7} {0,9,4,8} {0,9,5,1} {0,9,5,2} {0,9,5,3} {0,9,5,4} {0,9,5,6} {0,9,5,7} {0,9,5,8} {0,9,6,1} {0,9,6,2} {0,9,6,3} {0,9,6,4} {0,9,6,5} {0,9,6,7} {0,9,6,8} {0,9,7,1} {0,9,7,2} {0,9,7,3} {0,9,7,4} {0,9,7,5} {0,9,7,6} {0,9,7,8} {0,9,8,1} {0,9,8,2} {0,9,8,3} {0,9,8,4} {0,9,8,5} {0,9,8,6} {0,9,8,7}

Cost> 504x1/2 x 7 draws =1724(local), Profit=776(local)

Cost> 504 x1/4 x7 draws=882, profit=1368

Pair method(Permutation with digit repeat)

Picks > 200, cost >200 x1/2 x 7 draws=700,   profit=S1800(local)

Picks> 200, cost>200x1/4 x7 draws=350, Profit=1900

draw  5419>  key 1,     pair   12-18

hits for key 1 +NP3> 1583,1459,1953,1839, cost  > 252 x 5 draws=1260, Prize =2500x 4(10000),P\$>8740

Check profit or loss for other outlet.

hits for Front pair +NP2(P with digit repeat)>1839, cost> 200 picks x1/2 x 5 draws=500, Prize=2500, P\$=2000

NB> wrap your mind around the predictive methods, looking at the picks will scare some folks, but that's not the picture here. You will spend more playing less picks at the end of the year, this method assumes multiple hits within each span, your win a lot, break even or you lose. All you need is a bankroll and method to locate your key or front pair.  N and P are not constant, their set to the limit for the above workout.

Keep your comments if the subject in question "Predictive Method" is not addressed, waging is very subjective!

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NC> 4478  4667

4470-4471-4472-4473-4474-4475-4476-4478-4479-4780-4781-4782-4783-4784-4785-4786-4787-4788-4789-4660-4661-4662-4663-4664-4665-4666-4667-4668-4669-6670-6671-6672-6673-6674-6675-6676-6677-6678-6679

DC>6669-6779

1999 6669  6777 6779   6976  7676    7766 6790-6791-6792-6793-6794-6795-6796-6798-6799-7790-7791-7792-7793-7794-7795-7796-7797-7798

NC> str 4785

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NJ> span  500/ # picks

3375-3374-3385-3384-3975-3974-3985-3984-9375-9374-9385-9384-9975-9974-9985-9984-3752-3756-3750-3757-9842-9846-9840-9847-3978

Happy 2015

NJ> 8694

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Anything for SC would be greatly appreciated!

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