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# Pick 4 for ROI

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DC>14 draws

5877 {5873} {5878} {5879} {5872} {5875} {5837} {5833} {5838} {5839} {5832} {5835} {5887} {5883} {5888} {5889} {5882} {5885} {5897} {5893} {5898} {5899} {5892} {5895} {5827} {5823} {5828} {5829} {5822} {5825} {5857} {5853} {5858} {5859} {5852} {5855}

{5177} {5173} {5178} {5179} {5172} {5175} {5137} {5133} {5138} {5139} {5132} {5135} {518,7} {5183} {5188} {5189} {5182} {5185} {5197} {5193} {5198} {5199} {5192} {5195} {512,7} {512,3} {5128} {5129} {5122} {5125} {5157} {5153} {5158} {5159} {5152} {5155}

DC> 5738(box 5873,5837)

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I used the word " POSITIONALLY STRUCTURED" for the sum sets, this infers priority of digits in each set. I am glad you did use the word 'Drive' which is just synonyms for 'key, lead, pilot' digits. Your workout for the draw 3497 is correct, but I sense impatience in trying to get a straight in next draw. The digits 9,7 has the same priority as first positions(they are from different sets), likewise 0,6 in second positions   >>>>>>>>>

90

76

My picks will be A/90+NP2, 96+NP2,       B/-- 70+NP2, 76 +NP2> A and B has the same chance, so just pick one , what you did with the hit 9717 is fitting your workout after the fact, is bias testing, do not fall for that, the above workout could come straight in couple of draws, is about patience and managing cost.

Remember> Pos 1 +Pos 2>pair  not Pos 1+pos1,  9+0,9+6(pair)  not 9+7,,,,,the digit 9= digit 7 (imagine a point with id 9 taking id 7)> the digit id changes but the position remains the same.

NB> With time and observations, your intuition will be enhanced,  try avoid any adjustment after the fact.

Thank you for the response and explanation.

After reading your explanation, I understand where I went wrong. I have to remember to retain the digit positioning.

I was unsure of the priority of the drives, but now I see.  In my workouts, I did start to create the box/matrix to maintain this structure, then changed it.  I will use it in the future because it does help me see the positions clearer.

Even though, I may have errored in the digit positioning, I understand how to determine X (draw digits) and create pairs based on those digits.

Thank you again for the help!

P57

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Missouri P-4 evening

First position = digit 1 for straight hit

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DC>14 draws

5877 {5873} {5878} {5879} {5872} {5875} {5837} {5833} {5838} {5839} {5832} {5835} {5887} {5883} {5888} {5889} {5882} {5885} {5897} {5893} {5898} {5899} {5892} {5895} {5827} {5823} {5828} {5829} {5822} {5825} {5857} {5853} {5858} {5859} {5852} {5855}

{5177} {5173} {5178} {5179} {5172} {5175} {5137} {5133} {5138} {5139} {5132} {5135} {518,7} {5183} {5188} {5189} {5182} {5185} {5197} {5193} {5198} {5199} {5192} {5195} {512,7} {512,3} {5128} {5129} {5122} {5125} {5157} {5153} {5158} {5159} {5152} {5155}

DC> so far> 2571, 5738(box 5873,5837,5172,5127)

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DC>14 draws

5877 {5873} {5878} {5879} {5872} {5875} {5837} {5833} {5838} {5839} {5832} {5835} {5887} {5883} {5888} {5889} {5882} {5885} {5897} {5893} {5898} {5899} {5892} {5895} {5827} {5823} {5828} {5829} {5822} {5825} {5857} {5853} {5858} {5859} {5852} {5855}

{5177} {5173} {5178} {5179} {5172} {5175} {5137} {5133} {5138} {5139} {5132} {5135} {518,7} {5183} {5188} {5189} {5182} {5185} {5197} {5193} {5198} {5199} {5192} {5195} {512,7} {512,3} {5128} {5129} {5122} {5125} {5157} {5153} {5158} {5159} {5152} {5155}

Dc> hits so far>5819( box 5189,5198) ,2571, 5738(box 5873,5837,5172,5127)

NB> the assumption is on track for possible str hit.

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VA>14 draws

{5877} {5871} {5870} {5875} {5873} {5874} {5817} {5811} {5810} {5815} {5813} {5814} {5807} {5801} {5800} {5805} {5803} {580,4} {5857} {5851} {5850} {5855} {5853} {5854} {5837} {5831} {5830} {5835} {5833} {583,4} {584,7} {5841} {5840} {5845} {5843} {5844}

{5177} {5171} {5170} {5175} {5173} {5174} {5117} {5111} {5110} {5115} {5113} {5114} {5107} {5101} {5100} {5105} {5103} {5104} {5157} {5151} {515,0} {5155} {5153} {5154} {5137} {5131} {5130} {5135} {5133} {513,4} {5147} {5141} {514,0} {5145} {5143} {5144}

VA>hits so far str 5150, box 5105, 5071(5107,5170)

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VA>hits so far str 5150, box 5105, 5071(5107,5170)

Split bet for 16 draws

CAL>

{4822} {4823} {4826} {4829} {4832} {4833} {4836} {4839} {4862} {4863} {4866} {4869} {4892} {4893} {4896} {4899}{4122} {4123} {4126} {4129} {4132} {4133} {4136} {4139} {4162} {4163} {4166} {4169} {4192} {4193} {4196} {4199}

IL>

5400} {5404} {5408} {5409} {5440} {5444} {5448} {5449} {5480} {5484} {5488} {5489} {5490} {5494} {5498} {5499}2400} {2404} {2408} {2409} {2440} {2444} {2448} {2449} {2480} {2484} {2488} {2489} {2490} {2494} {2498} {2499}

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Split bet for 16 draws

CAL>

{4822} {4823} {4826} {4829} {4832} {4833} {4836} {4839} {4862} {4863} {4866} {4869} {4892} {4893} {4896} {4899}{4122} {4123} {4126} {4129} {4132} {4133} {4136} {4139} {4162} {4163} {4166} {4169} {4192} {4193} {4196} {4199}

IL>

5400} {5404} {5408} {5409} {5440} {5444} {5448} {5449} {5480} {5484} {5488} {5489} {5490} {5494} {5498} {5499}2400} {2404} {2408} {2409} {2440} {2444} {2448} {2449} {2480} {2484} {2488} {2489} {2490} {2494} {2498} {2499}

IL> str 2440, box 2404

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IL> str 2440, box 2404

KY>30  combined draws for split bets

6356-6354-6353---6350-6358-6352-6351 -6360-6368-6362-6361-4660-4668-3566-

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Split bet for 16 draws

CAL>

{4822} {4823} {4826} {4829} {4832} {4833} {4836} {4839} {4862} {4863} {4866} {4869} {4892} {4893} {4896} {4899}{4122} {4123} {4126} {4129} {4132} {4133} {4136} {4139} {4162} {4163} {4166} {4169} {4192} {4193} {4196} {4199}

IL>

5400} {5404} {5408} {5409} {5440} {5444} {5448} {5449} {5480} {5484} {5488} {5489} {5490} {5494} {5498} {5499}2400} {2404} {2408} {2409} {2440} {2444} {2448} {2449} {2480} {2484} {2488} {2489} {2490} {2494} {2498} {2499}

Congrats!

ILL 2440 straight 12/9

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do you have anything for Md.

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do you have anything for Md.

MD

8981-8986-8980-8985-8987-8984-8991-8996-8990-8995-8997-8994-7483-7487-7484-7837-7834-7374-4834-4374

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Any thing for Iowa thanks so much!

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For folks with limited budget, use the concept of recurrence or sequential difference to establish the size of N, hence NP3 for your triads, this will reduced your picks to just 24 picks. The two concepts  basically gives  a range of prediction points(prediction interval). Say, my draw is 1234, recurring points will be 8197 for 4P3 triads, the points 8,1,9,7 has size 4 (4 elements) for 24 triads >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

{8,1,9} {8,1,7} {8,9,1} {8,9,7} {8,7,1} {8,7,9} {1,8,9} {1,8,7} {1,9,8} {1,9,7} {1,7,8} {1,7,9} {9,8,1} {9,8,7} {9,1,8} {9,1,7} {9,7,8} {9,7,1} {7,8,1} {7,8,9} {7,1,8} {7,1,9} {7,9,8} {7,9,1

Predict next position 1 digit/s and add it to your 24 triads, you can also consider 4P3 with one repeat digit for 64 triads

NB> The two concepts has been exhausted in most of my threads, even with charts, so I will not repeat again.

I have been studying this process and I feel like understand now, but would like your opinion if I am correct.

I will use FL as my example.

12/4  9-1-0-5

12/4  3-3-1-6

12/5  5-3-8-6

12/5  0-1-3-7

12/6  1-1-5-0

12/6  3-1-8-7

Now the purpose of the thread is to first predict the first digit for position 1.  I chose to do this process a different way.  I use the longest out due digit from draw 9105. Using the longest out digit works well. The longest due Digit 3. Now for my triads, I want to use recurrent points>9105> recurring points 9>0, 1>8, 0>1,5>7 for 0817. Using 0817, I will create 24 triads, {081}(087} {817} {018} {078} {871} {810} {807} {178} {801} {870} {187} {108} {708} {781} {180} {780} {718} {170} {107} {701} {710} {017} {071}.

A straight hit occurs on 12/6 3187.

I still want to check other draw data, but want to make sure I am using recurrent points correctly.

P57

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I have been studying this process and I feel like understand now, but would like your opinion if I am correct.

I will use FL as my example.

12/4  9-1-0-5

12/4  3-3-1-6

12/5  5-3-8-6

12/5  0-1-3-7

12/6  1-1-5-0

12/6  3-1-8-7

Now the purpose of the thread is to first predict the first digit for position 1.  I chose to do this process a different way.  I use the longest out due digit from draw 9105. Using the longest out digit works well. The longest due Digit 3. Now for my triads, I want to use recurrent points>9105> recurring points 9>0, 1>8, 0>1,5>7 for 0817. Using 0817, I will create 24 triads, {081}(087} {817} {018} {078} {871} {810} {807} {178} {801} {870} {187} {108} {708} {781} {180} {780} {718} {170} {107} {701} {710} {017} {071}.

A straight hit occurs on 12/6 3187.

I still want to check other draw data, but want to make sure I am using recurrent points correctly.

P57

You got it, do more draws for consistency.

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