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Steve Player's Pick-5 game using pick-3

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Posted: December 11, 2014, 1:57 pm - IP Logged

Thank you for the compliment sir. Yep. There are day when I reread a post and slap my head wondering who wrote it. The older I get the more I find myself reverting to the old down home country English I loathed when I was growing up.

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Gary thanks for the file.  Can you do a 5/37 for New Mexico?

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    The result was 001, 1-8-10-30-34

    will replay the above tonight.

    Result was 001 again, 5-10-11-20-36, 00156

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      Posted: December 12, 2014, 8:42 am - IP Logged

      You're right on. The percent for 2-1-1-1 in a 5/36 game is 48%. Currently in Fla it's hitting at 48.9%.

      These stats are courtesy of my program Lotwin. Also 1-2 of these numbers will hit 70.7% of the time.

      1-3-7-9-13-15-21-25-31-33

      Also 1-2 of these numbers will hit 70.7% of the time.

      1-3-7-9-13-15-21-25-31-33

      Could you give  the least hitting numbers    Tks

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        gary, can you do a mass cash 5/35? it runs 7 nights a week. Thanks

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          Gary thanks for the file.  Can you do a 5/37 for New Mexico?

          Patriot

          Here's the 537 matrix file for download:

          Breakdown of the 537matrix

          Still trying to decipher what I'm seeing.

          Had some thoughts of breaking these into back digit patterns of 4 and even doing the 5 back digits, not sure that would be much help. Texas has 5700 draws, including pre-tests, about 19500. To track every back 5 digit pattern would mean huge blocks of zero results. (Can't extrapolate from a zero.)

          Might make more sense to track them as boxed digits.

          Not a fan of Steve Player, but looking at these charts, the logic of playing three digit codes is clear. Where it does diminish the chances of a jackpot (as flossdog points out), the trade-off is an increase in chances of hitting four digits if the three hit and one of the three repeats.

          In my mind, both ideas, the three digit code and the three digit code with a key digit, are solid.

          Maybe I'm doing it wrong and should wipe out the pairs totally and look at the triplets in each position instead?

          G

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            Here's the 537 matrix file for download:

            Breakdown of the 537matrix

            Still trying to decipher what I'm seeing.

            Had some thoughts of breaking these into back digit patterns of 4 and even doing the 5 back digits, not sure that would be much help. Texas has 5700 draws, including pre-tests, about 19500. To track every back 5 digit pattern would mean huge blocks of zero results. (Can't extrapolate from a zero.)

            Might make more sense to track them as boxed digits.

            Not a fan of Steve Player, but looking at these charts, the logic of playing three digit codes is clear. Where it does diminish the chances of a jackpot (as flossdog points out), the trade-off is an increase in chances of hitting four digits if the three hit and one of the three repeats.

            In my mind, both ideas, the three digit code and the three digit code with a key digit, are solid.

            Maybe I'm doing it wrong and should wipe out the pairs totally and look at the triplets in each position instead?

            G

            I am not sure, using boxed digits is the way to go.


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              Finally got 3 out of five, but unfortunately it wasn't of my doing. It was a free QP from the day before. lol


              Thursday, December 11, 2014
              5-10-11-20-36

              That's a $8.50 dollar win, so I think I'll use that money to do 10 lines for tonight.

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                Posted: December 12, 2014, 11:47 am - IP Logged

                Finally got 3 out of five, but unfortunately it wasn't of my doing. It was a free QP from the day before. lol


                Thursday, December 11, 2014
                5-10-11-20-36

                That's a $8.50 dollar win, so I think I'll use that money to do 10 lines for tonight.

                Good OM, are you sorting the digits low-high?


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                  Good OM, are you sorting the digits low-high?

                  The win was from a free QP.

                  As far as how I do it is as before. I'm only concentrating from the lowest to highest of the first 3 digits, no matter what order.

                  Example: 01-12-23-30-32.....code=012

                   

                  I know I'm ignoring the other numbers and others have suggested tracking the other numbers, but that becomes a nightmare. Still trying to crawl before I walk..lol

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                    The win was from a free QP.

                    As far as how I do it is as before. I'm only concentrating from the lowest to highest of the first 3 digits, no matter what order.

                    Example: 01-12-23-30-32.....code=012

                     

                    I know I'm ignoring the other numbers and others have suggested tracking the other numbers, but that becomes a nightmare. Still trying to crawl before I walk..lol

                    OM, you're doing GREAT!

                    Its hitting.

                    Tracking a thousand back digits sets of three.....ewwwwww!

                    Still a big YAY when compared to tracking all 100000 five digit back sets.

                    Bob, breaking the game into 5 digit ordered back sets and counting those results in 90% zeros or ones. So I would propose taking the three digit sets and getting the breakdown for each combination of those. Trace 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321 and see which, if any, comes out most. There may not be an advantage to any (can't be sure without exploring that avenue).

                    G

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                      OM, you're doing GREAT!

                      Its hitting.

                      Tracking a thousand back digits sets of three.....ewwwwww!

                      Still a big YAY when compared to tracking all 100000 five digit back sets.

                      Bob, breaking the game into 5 digit ordered back sets and counting those results in 90% zeros or ones. So I would propose taking the three digit sets and getting the breakdown for each combination of those. Trace 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321 and see which, if any, comes out most. There may not be an advantage to any (can't be sure without exploring that avenue).

                      G

                      I am going to jump it up to first 4 digits.

                      first 4, 2-4-6-7

                       

                      12-14-16-17-19
                      12-14-16-17-29
                      12-14-16-27-29
                      12-14-17-26-29
                      12-14-26-27-29
                      12-16-17-24-29
                      12-16-24-27-29
                      12-17-24-26-29
                      12-24-26-27-29

                      1,12,23,30,32 1 12 23 30 32 1 2 3 0 2 01223 C 0 1 2 012
                      1,12,23,30,33 1 12 23 30 33 1 2 3 0 3 01233 C 0 1 2 012
                      1,12,23,30,34 1 12 23 30 34 1 2 3 0 4 01234 C 0 1 2 012
                      1,12,23,30,35 1 12 23 30 35 1 2 3 0 5 01235 C 0 1 2 012
                      1,12,23,30,36 1 12 23 30 36 1 2 3 0 6 01236 C 0 1 2 012

                      I  think, I am doing it the same as OM. There are 16,248(012) combos in the matrix. How does he pick the other 2 numbers, that is what I need to know.

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                        I am going to jump it up to first 4 digits.

                        first 4, 2-4-6-7

                         

                        12-14-16-17-19
                        12-14-16-17-29
                        12-14-16-27-29
                        12-14-17-26-29
                        12-14-26-27-29
                        12-16-17-24-29
                        12-16-24-27-29
                        12-17-24-26-29
                        12-24-26-27-29

                        1,12,23,30,32 1 12 23 30 32 1 2 3 0 2 01223 C 0 1 2 012
                        1,12,23,30,33 1 12 23 30 33 1 2 3 0 3 01233 C 0 1 2 012
                        1,12,23,30,34 1 12 23 30 34 1 2 3 0 4 01234 C 0 1 2 012
                        1,12,23,30,35 1 12 23 30 35 1 2 3 0 5 01235 C 0 1 2 012
                        1,12,23,30,36 1 12 23 30 36 1 2 3 0 6 01236 C 0 1 2 012

                        I  think, I am doing it the same as OM. There are 16,248(012) combos in the matrix. How does he pick the other 2 numbers, that is what I need to know.

                        Looks to me like he is taking a 3 digit "code"....say 145.

                        Then he gets all the numbers containing those digits in the matrix.

                        1 = 01, 11, 21, 31

                        4 = 04, 14, 24, 34

                        5 = 05, 15, 25, 35

                        Then he wheels those.

                        Is that different from what you are seeing?

                        G

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                          thanks gary!

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                            Looks to me like he is taking a 3 digit "code"....say 145.

                            Then he gets all the numbers containing those digits in the matrix.

                            1 = 01, 11, 21, 31

                            4 = 04, 14, 24, 34

                            5 = 05, 15, 25, 35

                            Then he wheels those.

                            Is that different from what you are seeing?

                            G

                            I see it now,he is only using the values that make up the 145. Sharp cookie!! like you. wheeling those values.


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                              OM, you're doing GREAT!

                              Its hitting.

                              Tracking a thousand back digits sets of three.....ewwwwww!

                              Still a big YAY when compared to tracking all 100000 five digit back sets.

                              Bob, breaking the game into 5 digit ordered back sets and counting those results in 90% zeros or ones. So I would propose taking the three digit sets and getting the breakdown for each combination of those. Trace 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321 and see which, if any, comes out most. There may not be an advantage to any (can't be sure without exploring that avenue).

                              G

                              I'm not tracking a 1,000 digits sets of three. It's only 120 boxed combinations. Remember, there are no doubles and triples.

                                 
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