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Posted: December 3, 2014, 8:35 am - IP Logged

The question that never fades away.  Tell me if I'm the last one to find this out.

I'm a member of NC Lucke Rewards.  As such, I enter the Entry Codes from non winning tickets for a chance at secondary prizes.  Recently, I entered the entry code from a Carolina Cash 5 multi draw ticket that had not been fully played out.  The code was accepted and I didn't win on the future draws.  Thinking I can go ahead and enter the entry codes on recently purchased tickets that have yet to be drawn and see if they're 'winners' before the 'draw' ever takes place.

Any thoughts?

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    Posted: December 3, 2014, 9:12 am - IP Logged

    Coincidence and "rigged" are not the same thing.

    "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

    ~Robert A. Heinlein

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      Posted: December 3, 2014, 11:05 am - IP Logged

      I see what you're saying...you think that if you enter the numbers before the draw and it tells you it's a winning

      ticket you essentially see into the future...lol, I think they're smarter than that. They probably have a void feature

      in place where you make the ticket null and void if you enter it before the draw.

      OR is what you're saying you'd like to see if you win a second chance prize and not wait until after the draw for the

      jp prize.

      If there was any chance I'd make my ticket for a future draw void by entering for a second chance draw where I

      would most likely win less, I wouldn't take the chance and I'd just wait. It can't be that painful or exhilarating to

      wait or see if you won a 2nd chance prize, can it?

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        Posted: December 3, 2014, 4:09 pm - IP Logged

        I see what you're saying...you think that if you enter the numbers before the draw and it tells you it's a winning

        ticket you essentially see into the future...lol, I think they're smarter than that. They probably have a void feature

        in place where you make the ticket null and void if you enter it before the draw.

        OR is what you're saying you'd like to see if you win a second chance prize and not wait until after the draw for the

        jp prize.

        If there was any chance I'd make my ticket for a future draw void by entering for a second chance draw where I

        would most likely win less, I wouldn't take the chance and I'd just wait. It can't be that painful or exhilarating to

        wait or see if you won a 2nd chance prize, can it?

        I Agree!

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          Posted: December 3, 2014, 4:14 pm - IP Logged

          The question that never fades away.  Tell me if I'm the last one to find this out.

          I'm a member of NC Lucke Rewards.  As such, I enter the Entry Codes from non winning tickets for a chance at secondary prizes.  Recently, I entered the entry code from a Carolina Cash 5 multi draw ticket that had not been fully played out.  The code was accepted and I didn't win on the future draws.  Thinking I can go ahead and enter the entry codes on recently purchased tickets that have yet to be drawn and see if they're 'winners' before the 'draw' ever takes place.

          Any thoughts?

          Garfield,

           

           

          I'm sorry but I really think it is….  I have noticed some strange numbers, numbers never been out in the last year, funky combinations that don't make any sense.  I hate to say it but I do believe and its sad because I love OHIO Lottery.

           

           

          O-H-I-O Lottery.

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            Posted: December 3, 2014, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

            The question that never fades away.  Tell me if I'm the last one to find this out.

            I'm a member of NC Lucke Rewards.  As such, I enter the Entry Codes from non winning tickets for a chance at secondary prizes.  Recently, I entered the entry code from a Carolina Cash 5 multi draw ticket that had not been fully played out.  The code was accepted and I didn't win on the future draws.  Thinking I can go ahead and enter the entry codes on recently purchased tickets that have yet to be drawn and see if they're 'winners' before the 'draw' ever takes place.

            Any thoughts?

            multi draw ticket that had not been fully played out.

            Did it lose on any of the draws that were played?

            If so, then there's nothing suspicious at all. Every ticket gets one second-chance code. The fact that it was a multi-draw ticket doesn't change anything, because the second-chance code is unique and separate from the base game. You didn't get a second-chance code for every play, correct? Your ticket may list 5 plays, but only one webcode. When you entered the code it likely just checked to see if any of the previous draws were losers, then accepted it as a second-chance entry. Or, possibly, the system doesn't discriminate between winning and losing tickets and simply accepts all webcodes as second-chance entries, regardless of winning status.

            It's a little silly to suggest that entering a second-chance code has predictive power for winning an entirely separate base game. That would mean the lottery has to rig literally every drawing. History has shown that rigging even one drawing is rare and near impossible, especially without catching anyone's attention.

            If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
            If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

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              Posted: December 4, 2014, 8:13 am - IP Logged

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              Yes, the previous four draws resulted in no winnings.  I've marked my Cash 5 ticket for five draws at a time; this instance had one draw left as I was confused about the date for the last draw of that ticket.  In the past, I've entered the Lucke Rewards Entry Code for winning tickets after the draw and the code was rejected.  I'm out of state at the moment on business; will test my theory at the next opportunity.

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                Posted: December 4, 2014, 9:15 am - IP Logged

                The question that never fades away.  Tell me if I'm the last one to find this out.

                I'm a member of NC Lucke Rewards.  As such, I enter the Entry Codes from non winning tickets for a chance at secondary prizes.  Recently, I entered the entry code from a Carolina Cash 5 multi draw ticket that had not been fully played out.  The code was accepted and I didn't win on the future draws.  Thinking I can go ahead and enter the entry codes on recently purchased tickets that have yet to be drawn and see if they're 'winners' before the 'draw' ever takes place.

                Any thoughts?

                Perhaps the computers are just infallible or made a mistake?  In your case I tend to lean to and agree loosely with what lotto metro said, however,

                I recently won a match 2 on a pick 5 play that the scanner says is not a winner.  I have double and triple checked.  I have tried it at multiple store terminals and scanners.  I was going to mail in the ticket but that will be half the cost of the ticket.  Not sure what to do at this time.  Probably I will send an email so I can save the postage cost.

                However I have not jumped to the conclusion that the scanners are rigged at this point.

                Because of styles, people are separated.  They are not united together because styles became law.  But the original founder of the style started out with hypothesis - but now it has become the gospel truth.  Like boxing or fencing JKDL is a step by step project in which each maneuver must be repeated many times.  Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water.  Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.  Put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.  Now water can flow, or surge or drip or crash.  Be water my friend. 

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                  Posted: December 4, 2014, 10:40 am - IP Logged

                  In a post I posted last night, I started getting very suspicious with NC Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings when I noticed the lady drawing had the same outfit on for 2 days of draws, come to find out NC may draw the number days in advance.  I don't know if NC still do this, however even if they are doing audit draws this is not good because lets say you have a due number, and the due number comes out in the audit draw.  Got me really re-thinking this NC lottery.

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                    In a post I posted last night, I started getting very suspicious with NC Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings when I noticed the lady drawing had the same outfit on for 2 days of draws, come to find out NC may draw the number days in advance.  I don't know if NC still do this, however even if they are doing audit draws this is not good because lets say you have a due number, and the due number comes out in the audit draw.  Got me really re-thinking this NC lottery.

                    "however even if they are doing audit draws this is not good because lets say you have a due number, and the due number comes out in the audit draw."

                    IMO, "due numbers" are just an arbitrary name players put on digits and/or numbers based on their definition of when they are "due". Look at a statistical chart showing how many times each digit in each digit position appeared over the last 1000 drawings and you'll see that very few of the digits were drawn an equal amount.

                    For instance, the digit "7" was drawn 60 times less than the digit "5" in the last 1000 N.C. evening pick-3 drawings. The probably is both digits will be drawn 30 times in the next 100 drawings; do you think the digit "7" will be drawn more to catch-up and the digit "5" drawn less?

                    Wearing the same outfit for two consecutive days does raise an eyebrow.

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                      Yes it done more for me than raise an eyebrow, it made me start digging around to find out at this time multiple draws were held and recorded in the same day.  I don't think its done any more but the audit draw is. I also understand what you are saying about the position numbers because I created a spreadsheet that have all the statistics I could think of.

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                        In a post I posted last night, I started getting very suspicious with NC Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings when I noticed the lady drawing had the same outfit on for 2 days of draws, come to find out NC may draw the number days in advance.  I don't know if NC still do this, however even if they are doing audit draws this is not good because lets say you have a due number, and the due number comes out in the audit draw.  Got me really re-thinking this NC lottery.

                        Interesting...I always wondered if they used those audits/pre draws to avoid already played numbers.  Since none of us can be there, this won't ever be known.

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                          Posted: December 5, 2014, 10:23 am - IP Logged

                          In a post I posted last night, I started getting very suspicious with NC Pick 3 and Pick 4 drawings when I noticed the lady drawing had the same outfit on for 2 days of draws, come to find out NC may draw the number days in advance.  I don't know if NC still do this, however even if they are doing audit draws this is not good because lets say you have a due number, and the due number comes out in the audit draw.  Got me really re-thinking this NC lottery.

                          They do audits and pre-tests all the time, it does nothing to affect the game. I mean, the manufacturer who makes the balls and machines, they test them literally hundreds of times. Yet you will never see or know what numbers came up. But suddenly, because the machine/balls is in lottery possession it makes a difference? It doesn't. This is just another "flow of the numbers" argument and it really isn't grounded in logic. All that matters are the numbers in the drawing.

                          I wear the same outfits for a couple of days too.....cuts down on the amount of laundry and they do not soil easily, especially in a climate controlled office.

                          If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
                          If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

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                            They do audits and pre-tests all the time, it does nothing to affect the game. I mean, the manufacturer who makes the balls and machines, they test them literally hundreds of times. Yet you will never see or know what numbers came up. But suddenly, because the machine/balls is in lottery possession it makes a difference? It doesn't. This is just another "flow of the numbers" argument and it really isn't grounded in logic. All that matters are the numbers in the drawing.

                            I wear the same outfits for a couple of days too.....cuts down on the amount of laundry and they do not soil easily, especially in a climate controlled office.

                            Really? I'd love to see the reaction on your face If you had access to the pre-draw PB numbers and all your numbers were in it for a JP of let's say about 300 million. 

                            Those dirty clothes of yours need to be washed. Why don't you do some pre-washes and post washes to make sure your washing machine is still in running condition. I recommend 5 pre-washes with just some rags, then wash your actual clothing, then do 5 more post-washes. Bash

                            Some of you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever get it. NEVER !  Puke

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                              Really? I'd love to see the reaction on your face If you had access to the pre-draw PB numbers and all your numbers were in it for a JP of let's say about 300 million. 

                              Those dirty clothes of yours need to be washed. Why don't you do some pre-washes and post washes to make sure your washing machine is still in running condition. I recommend 5 pre-washes with just some rags, then wash your actual clothing, then do 5 more post-washes. Bash

                              Some of you will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever get it. NEVER !  Puke

                              No surprise you would come along and blast me. There really is nothing to "get," and I think that's what you don't get. I respect your opinion though! Patriot

                              I can make up a million pre-test results and none of them would predict or influence the next drawing's numbers. I might find patterns in my imaginary numbers, but they wouldn't even taint one inkling of the actual drawing. Like I said, the ball and machine manufacturers run hundreds and hundreds of what you call "pre-tests," more than the lottery will ever perform, but I don't see you railing against them.

                              I have access to all pre-test drawings for my lottery. The only benefit is determining whether the lottery's equipment is functioning properly. They are useless in pattern tracking, but then again all numbers are. This defies the voodoo opinion here on LP so I won't even bother to get into that. Still, I wish a legitimate college course in statistics was required for lottery players, but then nobody would play Wink

                              If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
                              If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

                              2017: 0% (0 tickets)
                              P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1