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I watched this fascinating program on Blackjack gambler Don Johnson who milked the AC casinos for 15 mil!! He says he beat the house because he found their weaknesses and expolited them. However he was an insider to the casino business and learned valuable lessons that he used later on. He showed some rules that he adopted and he says you have to be very focused and disciplined which i believe is very hard to do in a casino. Not every gambler can pull off what he does. Do any of you know of this guy and do you think some of his principles could be used on the lottery?

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    I watched this fascinating program on Blackjack gambler Don Johnson who milked the AC casinos for 15 mil!! He says he beat the house because he found their weaknesses and expolited them. However he was an insider to the casino business and learned valuable lessons that he used later on. He showed some rules that he adopted and he says you have to be very focused and disciplined which i believe is very hard to do in a casino. Not every gambler can pull off what he does. Do any of you know of this guy and do you think some of his principles could be used on the lottery?

    Perhaps in a Casino- but trying to beat the MM/PB game odds: Fat chance. Mathematicians have tried and failed. There are no loopholes when it comes to those balls spinning around, no way to " predict in advance" how they going to fall, no weaknesses or ways to exploit the balls. Unless it is an " inside job".

    ** Now the mechanical games... Who knows.

    People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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      Perhaps in a Casino- but trying to beat the MM/PB game odds: Fat chance. Mathematicians have tried and failed. There are no loopholes when it comes to those balls spinning around, no way to " predict in advance" how they going to fall, no weaknesses or ways to exploit the balls. Unless it is an " inside job".

      ** Now the mechanical games... Who knows.

      Huh?Mechanical games??? What exactly are those? Curious.

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        I watched this fascinating program on Blackjack gambler Don Johnson who milked the AC casinos for 15 mil!! He says he beat the house because he found their weaknesses and expolited them. However he was an insider to the casino business and learned valuable lessons that he used later on. He showed some rules that he adopted and he says you have to be very focused and disciplined which i believe is very hard to do in a casino. Not every gambler can pull off what he does. Do any of you know of this guy and do you think some of his principles could be used on the lottery?

        If someone told you a lottery game could be beaten by finding its weakness and exploiting them, would you believe them enough to try it?  Probably not because it would require a lot of research which requires a lot time and study with no guaranteed that you would be successful.  If someone has found a game they can exploit don't wait around for them to write a book and share it with everyone, that's the kind of stuff one keeps to one's self.

        Note: Last year LP news had a story about Johnson being sued by a Casino in England where he won a lot money after asking them to use a brand of cards that was made in such a way that he could identify their front by the design on their back.  The court said that was cheating and he had to return his winnings.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          If someone told you a lottery game could be beaten by finding its weakness and exploiting them, would you believe them enough to try it?  Probably not because it would require a lot of research which requires a lot time and study with no guaranteed that you would be successful.  If someone has found a game they can exploit don't wait around for them to write a book and share it with everyone, that's the kind of stuff one keeps to one's self.

          Note: Last year LP news had a story about Johnson being sued by a Casino in England where he won a lot money after asking them to use a brand of cards that was made in such a way that he could identify their front by the design on their back.  The court said that was cheating and he had to return his winnings.

          Hmm, interesting, i did not know of the story of johnson and England. However he has been banned from some of the Vegas casinos. Wonder if he pulled that trick in AC or Vegas.

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            Huh?Mechanical games??? What exactly are those? Curious.

            l was sipping on some fine  wine* it does this to me..  and momentarily lost my thought in translation by wanting to mean computerized games...If you looking for an apology- it ain't coming Bull.

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              Hmm, interesting, i did not know of the story of johnson and England. However he has been banned from some of the Vegas casinos. Wonder if he pulled that trick in AC or Vegas.

              I may have confused Don Johnson with another blackjack player, I did a search of LP news and the two stories I found about him didn't include that one.

              It's not unusual for lottery games to have weakness that can be exploited but usually only big stake players can take advantage of them like the Michigan couple that traveled to Massachusetts to spend $300K playing its Winfall game before it was discontinued.  When Tennessee started using computers RNG to pick its pick3 numbers and it didn't pick any doubles or triples instead of players hitting it hard with 120 straights it did pick, they complained until the problem was fixed.  I'm sure there are other such happenings that were never heard about.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: March 22, 2015, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

                I watched this fascinating program on Blackjack gambler Don Johnson who milked the AC casinos for 15 mil!! He says he beat the house because he found their weaknesses and expolited them. However he was an insider to the casino business and learned valuable lessons that he used later on. He showed some rules that he adopted and he says you have to be very focused and disciplined which i believe is very hard to do in a casino. Not every gambler can pull off what he does. Do any of you know of this guy and do you think some of his principles could be used on the lottery?

                This is How He Did It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdODHUObd5U

                Any Lotteries Offering Loss Rebates?

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                  Playing the lottery Power Ball, Mega Millions or Super Lotto, the odds are astronomical and against us.  We all have a 50-50 chance of winning or losing.  But there are also too many combinations to make up a winning set of numbers.  A 1 - in 176 million chance odds.  How many people in the U.S. are hoping for a huge windfall, and how many people buy just a few dollars of tickets at the same time.  So, the cards in the casino are not that many and that also depends on how many decks they use. Which is still smaller than the odds of the lottery.  Just the other day, a woman won the lottery by buying only 4 quick picks...she just happen to be lucky I guess.  I have bought a lot when the lottery prizes go up and I think a lot of us do as well.  I do not stress over winning or losing, we all stand the same chance of winning. 

                    All it takes is just one ticket, and that may be you or I.  I like to dream big, but if doesn't happen to me, I hope someone who really deserves it should win.  I will be happy for them just the same.  I have won 2 Fantasy 5's in the past, and I have won smaller prizes on the scrachers.  Just last month I witnessed a guy buy a $20.00 scracher from the grocery store, he won $250.00 on that 1 ticket.  I was right in front of that machine.  If I had bought the same ticket before he did, I guess I would have won the money as well. You just never know when luck is going to smile down on you.

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                    Hmm, interesting, i did not know of the story of johnson and England. However he has been banned from some of the Vegas casinos. Wonder if he pulled that trick in AC or Vegas.

                    Johnson's story is different than the average Blackjack card counter because the casino allowed him to set the conditions. The only recent lottery game comparable where players could gain an advantage was the Mass game RJ mentioned. Many years ago it was possible to buy all the combinations in Lotto games and it was done in Virginia when the size of the jackpot was larger than the number of combos.

                    It's silly to even mention PB and MM as potential games, but it might be possible in some of the scratch-off games.

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                      Johnson's story is different than the average Blackjack card counter because the casino allowed him to set the conditions. The only recent lottery game comparable where players could gain an advantage was the Mass game RJ mentioned. Many years ago it was possible to buy all the combinations in Lotto games and it was done in Virginia when the size of the jackpot was larger than the number of combos.

                      It's silly to even mention PB and MM as potential games, but it might be possible in some of the scratch-off games.

                      "It's silly to even mention PB and MM as potential games, but it might be possible in some of the scratch-off games."

                      When you think about it, many story I've read about someone beating a gambling game was silly for anyone to think about doing it the way it was done.  Weather it was the lady in Texas with a master degree in mathematics who brought all those scratch-off and won several million dollars jackpots, or the Michigan couple that traveled to Massachusetts to spend $300K+ playing Winfal or the guy in Cleveland who played the same combination 20 times in Bukeye5 and capped out under the million dollars limit or Jack Whittaker who brought a hundred dollars worth of PowerBall tickets or the Austrian group trying to buy all the possible combinations in Virginia .  The point is sometimes thinking outside the box works and it wouldn't surprise me to someday read that someone won PB or MM doing it.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Playing the lottery Power Ball, Mega Millions or Super Lotto, the odds are astronomical and against us.  We all have a 50-50 chance of winning or losing.  But there are also too many combinations to make up a winning set of numbers.  A 1 - in 176 million chance odds.  How many people in the U.S. are hoping for a huge windfall, and how many people buy just a few dollars of tickets at the same time.  So, the cards in the casino are not that many and that also depends on how many decks they use. Which is still smaller than the odds of the lottery.  Just the other day, a woman won the lottery by buying only 4 quick picks...she just happen to be lucky I guess.  I have bought a lot when the lottery prizes go up and I think a lot of us do as well.  I do not stress over winning or losing, we all stand the same chance of winning. 

                          All it takes is just one ticket, and that may be you or I.  I like to dream big, but if doesn't happen to me, I hope someone who really deserves it should win.  I will be happy for them just the same.  I have won 2 Fantasy 5's in the past, and I have won smaller prizes on the scrachers.  Just last month I witnessed a guy buy a $20.00 scracher from the grocery store, he won $250.00 on that 1 ticket.  I was right in front of that machine.  If I had bought the same ticket before he did, I guess I would have won the money as well. You just never know when luck is going to smile down on you.

                        "We all have a 50-50 chance of winning or losing."

                        That's true but players won't win enough times because of the odds and or enough money because of the payoffs unless they win top tier prizes. Nothing wrong with dreaming, but your PB ticket only had a 3% of winning something and likely a prize under $100.

                        "I like to dream big, but if doesn't happen to me, I hope someone who really deserves it should win."

                        Where can we find the list of "deserving players"?

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                          "It's silly to even mention PB and MM as potential games, but it might be possible in some of the scratch-off games."

                          When you think about it, many story I've read about someone beating a gambling game was silly for anyone to think about doing it the way it was done.  Weather it was the lady in Texas with a master degree in mathematics who brought all those scratch-off and won several million dollars jackpots, or the Michigan couple that traveled to Massachusetts to spend $300K+ playing Winfal or the guy in Cleveland who played the same combination 20 times in Bukeye5 and capped out under the million dollars limit or Jack Whittaker who brought a hundred dollars worth of PowerBall tickets or the Austrian group trying to buy all the possible combinations in Virginia .  The point is sometimes thinking outside the box works and it wouldn't surprise me to someday read that someone won PB or MM doing it.

                          "The point is sometimes thinking outside the box works and it wouldn't surprise me to someday read that someone won PB or MM doing"

                          I thought it was possible when the MM matrix was 5/56 + 46 with 3,819,816 five number combos, but not with 17,259,390.

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                            This is How He Did It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdODHUObd5U

                            Any Lotteries Offering Loss Rebates?

                            WOW INTERESTING no i don't think lotteries will ever do that. I never even heard of loss rebates this is new to me.

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                              l was sipping on some fine  wine* it does this to me..  and momentarily lost my thought in translation by wanting to mean computerized games...If you looking for an apology- it ain't coming Bull.

                              No noisegate i was not looking for an apology. just the definition of mechanical games never heard it called like that. So it's computerized. ok cool

                              no need to flex.