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Posted: December 10, 2015, 3:30 pm - IP Logged

No offense intended, but ....

I personally feel that U.S. lottery money should stay within the borders of United States Territory, meaning it can  legally be won by United States citizens ONLY !!!  Not Foreigners !!!

I know it would be hard to police this policy, b/c a U.S. citizen could still purchase a ticket for a foreigner,  receive payment, and then turn around and transfer payment to a foreigner, including a foreigner living outside of the United States.  By foreigner, I mean a non-U.S. citizen.

Perhaps my sentiment does not represent "what the U.S. stands for."  But, I have a right to my own opinion.

I know the lottery situation in Oregon rarely happens [see the LP News Forum], and given the current political climate [Donald Trump], everyone is tense and sensitive about prejudice against foreigners and political correctness. However, in the back of my mind, the possibility of U.S. lottery funds being funneled into Iran, Iraq, Afganestan, Israel, etc... or wherever, to fund terrorism, is very upsetting to say the least.

I am not trying to incite a riot on LP, by raising this concern !!

I know the LP membership is very opinionated, and this discussion could go off in many different directions.

My thread is only related to U.S. Lottery Money !!

Remember, this is supposed to be a civil discussion forum !!!

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    Posted: December 10, 2015, 4:08 pm - IP Logged

     These two websites, Lottery Post and USAMEGA, are worldwide and thankfully contribute to the social fabric.

     I believe that American values can be shared internationally. There are the five freedoms that World WarII was fought for and won. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press must be defended by each one of us. 

     The majority of foreigners envy our way of life. Let us not be too quick to change America.

     I've been rich and I've been poor. Believe me, rich is better. 

     Attributed to Joe E. Lewis and others

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      Posted: December 10, 2015, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks for your post...I read the LP news on that subject.  The guy is a Kurd, and the Kurd's are the only ones in that region helping us in Iraq.  So if it had to go to anyone there, I'm glad it was a Kurd.  What really pisses me off is when an illegal crosses the southern border, buys a lottery ticket and wins.  But then thats probably a good thing, he will now go back to Mexico and not take a job from an American citizen looking for one.   I like Trump!

      Never give up.  Banana

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        Posted: December 10, 2015, 6:36 pm - IP Logged

        No offense intended, but ....

        I personally feel that U.S. lottery money should stay within the borders of United States Territory, meaning it can  legally be won by United States citizens ONLY !!!  Not Foreigners !!!

        I know it would be hard to police this policy, b/c a U.S. citizen could still purchase a ticket for a foreigner,  receive payment, and then turn around and transfer payment to a foreigner, including a foreigner living outside of the United States.  By foreigner, I mean a non-U.S. citizen.

        Perhaps my sentiment does not represent "what the U.S. stands for."  But, I have a right to my own opinion.

        I know the lottery situation in Oregon rarely happens [see the LP News Forum], and given the current political climate [Donald Trump], everyone is tense and sensitive about prejudice against foreigners and political correctness. However, in the back of my mind, the possibility of U.S. lottery funds being funneled into Iran, Iraq, Afganestan, Israel, etc... or wherever, to fund terrorism, is very upsetting to say the least.

        I am not trying to incite a riot on LP, by raising this concern !!

        I know the LP membership is very opinionated, and this discussion could go off in many different directions.

        My thread is only related to U.S. Lottery Money !!

        Remember, this is supposed to be a civil discussion forum !!!

        Instead of putting that voice to foreigners winning US lottery money, how about using to ask all these corporations why they send US jobs overseas. If corporations can send our jobs over there then what's the difference with them winning "our "supposed  lottery money 

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          Posted: December 10, 2015, 7:23 pm - IP Logged

          In order for foreigners to win US lottery money, they first have to pay money to the US lotteries. And in the long run, they'll pay more in than they win - that's how the system is built.

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            Posted: December 10, 2015, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

            No offense intended, but ....

            I personally feel that U.S. lottery money should stay within the borders of United States Territory, meaning it can  legally be won by United States citizens ONLY !!!  Not Foreigners !!!

            I know it would be hard to police this policy, b/c a U.S. citizen could still purchase a ticket for a foreigner,  receive payment, and then turn around and transfer payment to a foreigner, including a foreigner living outside of the United States.  By foreigner, I mean a non-U.S. citizen.

            Perhaps my sentiment does not represent "what the U.S. stands for."  But, I have a right to my own opinion.

            I know the lottery situation in Oregon rarely happens [see the LP News Forum], and given the current political climate [Donald Trump], everyone is tense and sensitive about prejudice against foreigners and political correctness. However, in the back of my mind, the possibility of U.S. lottery funds being funneled into Iran, Iraq, Afganestan, Israel, etc... or wherever, to fund terrorism, is very upsetting to say the least.

            I am not trying to incite a riot on LP, by raising this concern !!

            I know the LP membership is very opinionated, and this discussion could go off in many different directions.

            My thread is only related to U.S. Lottery Money !!

            Remember, this is supposed to be a civil discussion forum !!!

            The only question is can players legally purchase U.S. lottery tickets for people living in other countries. The answer to that question is similar to can U.S. auto companies legally sell vehicles in other countries. Every state lottery defines the process of non U.S. residence cashing lottery tickets.

            Are you suggesting the U.S. should be isolated from the rest of the World?

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              Posted: December 10, 2015, 9:03 pm - IP Logged

              So if l understand you correctly DestinyC- you would also be concerned if a person from North Korea visited the United States,and while  here purchased a lottery ticket and ended up winning $200 mil.  Would your concern be that he won, or that Kim Jong would end up bagging it all? Which to you is the Lesser of these two evils? 

              People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

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                Posted: December 11, 2015, 1:22 am - IP Logged

                I wouldn't worry about 7mill. We already sent them 1.7 Trillion.

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                  Posted: December 11, 2015, 7:36 am - IP Logged

                  In order for foreigners to win US lottery money, they first have to pay money to the US lotteries. And in the long run, they'll pay more in than they win - that's how the system is built.

                  I Agree!  Exactly, Murgatroyd!

                  "There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

                  ~Robert A. Heinlein

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                    Posted: December 11, 2015, 11:26 am - IP Logged

                    That would be a very unamerican game rule.

                    If you can pay the wager, you can win. Not only don't lotteries bar foreigners from playing, casinos and race tracks don't either.

                    You seem to realize this as you use disclaimers such as "no offense" and "just my opinion which I'm allowed to have". If you have to defend yourself from the get-go, it's not looking to convincing.

                     

                    Besides, tourism pays for a crap lad of infrastructure and taxes for services which foreigners don't use, that too should the be considered unfair.

                    As a dirty foreigner myself, I for one will happily not pay taxes on my 1bln $ win. White Bounce

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                      Posted: December 11, 2015, 2:35 pm - IP Logged

                      No offense intended, but ....

                      I personally feel that U.S. lottery money should stay within the borders of United States Territory, meaning it can  legally be won by United States citizens ONLY !!!  Not Foreigners !!!

                      I know it would be hard to police this policy, b/c a U.S. citizen could still purchase a ticket for a foreigner,  receive payment, and then turn around and transfer payment to a foreigner, including a foreigner living outside of the United States.  By foreigner, I mean a non-U.S. citizen.

                      Perhaps my sentiment does not represent "what the U.S. stands for."  But, I have a right to my own opinion.

                      I know the lottery situation in Oregon rarely happens [see the LP News Forum], and given the current political climate [Donald Trump], everyone is tense and sensitive about prejudice against foreigners and political correctness. However, in the back of my mind, the possibility of U.S. lottery funds being funneled into Iran, Iraq, Afganestan, Israel, etc... or wherever, to fund terrorism, is very upsetting to say the least.

                      I am not trying to incite a riot on LP, by raising this concern !!

                      I know the LP membership is very opinionated, and this discussion could go off in many different directions.

                      My thread is only related to U.S. Lottery Money !!

                      Remember, this is supposed to be a civil discussion forum !!!

                      Are you a [Racist]?, and are you rooting for[Donald Trump], DestinyCreation?

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                        Posted: December 11, 2015, 5:11 pm - IP Logged

                        That would be a very unamerican game rule.

                        If you can pay the wager, you can win. Not only don't lotteries bar foreigners from playing, casinos and race tracks don't either.

                        You seem to realize this as you use disclaimers such as "no offense" and "just my opinion which I'm allowed to have". If you have to defend yourself from the get-go, it's not looking to convincing.

                         

                        Besides, tourism pays for a crap lad of infrastructure and taxes for services which foreigners don't use, that too should the be considered unfair.

                        As a dirty foreigner myself, I for one will happily not pay taxes on my 1bln $ win. White Bounce

                        "That would be a very unamerican game rule. "

                        I Agree! and it's not very well thought out because if they have a problem with "foreigners" winning U.S. lottery prizes, they shouldn't sell "foreigners" U.S. lottery tickets.

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                          Posted: December 11, 2015, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

                          Are you a [Racist]?, and are you rooting for[Donald Trump], DestinyCreation?

                          I am NOT a Racist !!! I am neutral toward Donald Trump !!!

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                            Posted: December 11, 2015, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

                            Yeah, the monies should stay with the U.S and its territories that have lotto. It's okay if foreigners win while playing in the U.S. I'm against the online lotto game offerings.

                            May the balls bounce in your favor!

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                              Posted: December 11, 2015, 8:16 pm - IP Logged

                              No offense intended, but ....

                              I personally feel that U.S. lottery money should stay within the borders of United States Territory, meaning it can  legally be won by United States citizens ONLY !!!  Not Foreigners !!!

                              I know it would be hard to police this policy, b/c a U.S. citizen could still purchase a ticket for a foreigner,  receive payment, and then turn around and transfer payment to a foreigner, including a foreigner living outside of the United States.  By foreigner, I mean a non-U.S. citizen.

                              Perhaps my sentiment does not represent "what the U.S. stands for."  But, I have a right to my own opinion.

                              I know the lottery situation in Oregon rarely happens [see the LP News Forum], and given the current political climate [Donald Trump], everyone is tense and sensitive about prejudice against foreigners and political correctness. However, in the back of my mind, the possibility of U.S. lottery funds being funneled into Iran, Iraq, Afganestan, Israel, etc... or wherever, to fund terrorism, is very upsetting to say the least.

                              I am not trying to incite a riot on LP, by raising this concern !!

                              I know the LP membership is very opinionated, and this discussion could go off in many different directions.

                              My thread is only related to U.S. Lottery Money !!

                              Remember, this is supposed to be a civil discussion forum !!!

                              Whenever someone says "no offense intended" look out because the next sentence is usually highly offensive. Case in point. If you really don't wish to cause offense then don't. Otherwise at least man up and be proud in your offensiveness and don't then claim civility as a ruse to avoid backlash.

                              I would find your comments a lot easier to swallow if you put as much antipathy into being equally offended that those foreigners would also have contributed to the jackpot. You aren't offended that they paid THEIR money, just offended that they get to reap the rewards. Are you also offended that foreigners pay more in taxes on those winnings? Do you feel it's an injustice that that money is used to educate American children only? 

                              You're right about one thing. It isn't what America stands for. But take heart, it would be right in keeping with what Hitler stood for and he was Time's Person of the Year. Maybe that will be an added comfort to you while you're wrapped up in your xenophobia, actively ignoring the fact that a whole lotta foreigners gave their lives to give you the right to belittle and demonize them.

                              I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

                              The odds are about the same.